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[MWMike2011]

Wow, again with the hatred for IT...

Modifié par MWMike2011, 11 novembre 2012 - 06:55 .

[masster blaster]

I could never romance Tali because I saw Garrus and Tali getting together at the end. I was like Garrus you better take care of her or I am coming for you ***.


Then Javik came into Liaras life, and I thought she was um going to get to close to Javik. I am joking of course Liara would never do that, or could she? Well as I saw that it wasn't going to work after Thesisa, but if you have Paragon interupt option flash then you tell Javik hey be nice to her.

Then after words Tali get's drunk and if you go down to Javiks quarters Tali tells Javik.

" You like her, and you like me to."

What was funny if your LI is Liara Javik would be in a weird moment if Shepard heard Javik say.

" Yes I am...starting to like that Asari you call Liara. Oh and when he reads your body waves he seems sad that your LI is Liara.

So the way I see it I don't romance Tali because of Garrus, and Liara and Javik maybe if you change Javiks mind to write a book with Liara.

Oh and did you know that Javik can write a book with Liara and want to kill himself after the war is over?

[masster blaster]

never mind restrider post the top ten back bones of it please.

Modifié par masster blaster, 11 novembre 2012 - 07:11 .

[CmdrShep80]

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

I have a hard time believing both the crucible and the citadel are a trap. Though when you look at it as let's leave the galaxy to spend all their resources on defeating us by giving them a dud bomb to build it would help the reapers divert the galaxy's attention away from the true objective too.

Guess we'll have to wait and see if omega is also a past crucible from the last cycle

My strong inclination is that the Crucible is a trap *in some form*, but I'm holding out on believing anything until at least Omega comes out.

as TIM says:  "I need you to believe"

[CmdrShep80]

BleedingUranium wrote...

I believe it was mentioned before, but there are rumours that you'll have to choose between Aria and Nyreen at some point in Omega. Since we have no other context at this point, who would you choose? I'd pick Nyreen, as I've never liked Aria.

i wonder how much of Aria's renegade character will point to the destroy ending?

[MWMike2011]

Here's another "just for giggles," since we haven't had a whole lot to go on this weekend... Indoctrination is true. Shepard wakes up in London, dusts himself off, snaps the neck of a nearby husk, just looks the part of badass. What happens next? What will they do to end the game?

[CmdrShep80]

Does Nyone know where I can find the vids of the "zealots" that are spouting "crazy talk" in the various ME games? Such as the hanar from ME1, the guy on the box from ME2, and the one from ME3?

Watching the choose wisely ep 2 about the very first scene with the crazy scientist got me thinking that all the crazy people in ME are basically saying the same things

[Gwyphon]

I would be pleased with Shepard waking up from the failed indoctrination attempt, with the feedback screwing with Harby, leading to the fleets shooting down the reaper fleet and the end scene being Shepard looking up at the sky as destroyed reapers fall out of the sky. Though I'm guessing it will have to be something more significant if they wen't to the trouble of adding a second ending.

[MWMike2011]

Gwyphon wrote...

I would be pleased with Shepard waking up from the failed indoctrination attempt, with the feedback screwing with Harby, leading to the fleets shooting down the reaper fleet and the end scene being Shepard looking up at the sky as destroyed reapers fall out of the sky. Though I'm guessing it will have to be something more significant if they wen't to the trouble of adding a second ending.

That would be amazing if they could pull that off. And that could even be just one of the endings, Destroy. Maybe they have something with the other endings showing Shepard still trying to fight off Indoctrination, but it doesn't actually show him waking up in London because he never passed out, just went all Indoctrination-y, started shooting other soldiers. Then your LI shows up and somehow manages to snap you out of it, THEN the assets come into play and you see the feedback from the failed Indoctrination attempt going into effect.

Modifié par MWMike2011, 11 novembre 2012 - 08:00 .

[byne]

Gwyphon wrote...

I would be pleased with Shepard waking up from the failed indoctrination attempt, with the feedback screwing with Harby, leading to the fleets shooting down the reaper fleet and the end scene being Shepard looking up at the sky as destroyed reapers fall out of the sky. Though I'm guessing it will have to be something more significant if they wen't to the trouble of adding a second ending.

Reminds me of this in the codex:

Sovereign was destroyed while assuming direct control over Saren. The feedback from Saren's death seemed to entirely overload Sovereign's shields. Current Reapers do not seem to suffer from this design flaw.

While it may be true that the current Reapers dont suffer from this design flaw (and given the accuracy of the codex, theres like a 98% chance that they do in fact suffer from it), Leviathan confirmed Harby was the first Reaper. He'd likely have the flaw too. Why else does he never assume direct control over anything once he's actually in the galaxy and no longer safe in darkspace?

[masster blaster]

Oh so now people say " ITers just b**** about the ending, and are cults that work for the Illuminate?" What the hell is wrong with people? Honest I feel like I just woke up from a dream and this is what our races as come down to.

Don't think just point the finger and that's it.

Honest to Hades why do people want the Reapers to live? " Oh they are just misunderstood, and they mean well. They were trying to slove a problem and they tried. Oh I just hate it that people tried to kill the Reapers"? Honest I think people/players got to close with the Reapers.

Why just why? I just can't see their point in saving the Reapers.

The only thing that is causing people to save the Reapers is the Geth, and EDI's life in Destroy. So if IT is what we got, then Bioware you did it, if not then Bioware why?

[masster blaster]

Byne also I think he takes Control of the General for wave feed back. It's more like Harbinger uses another object to Control what he needs/ wants. It's like if Shepard killed a Harby Collector, then the General recives the wave and is affected, while Harbinger is okay, yet if Shepard Destroys the base ( yes even if you save it) Harbinger is trying to release Control of the General, and to me it looks like the General is happy that it's going to die.

[masster blaster]

Wait don't we need Mass Effect core or fields to activate Conduits, and relays? If so, then how does Shepard get up to the Citadel, if his/her shields ( which are gone) don't work?

[MWMike2011]

Here's my thought for it, if they actually manage to make Indoctrination Theory a reality:

Destroy: You wake up in London, surrounded by rubble. You are right back where the beam hit you, and your team come running up to you. You stand up and dust yourself off. You look up at Harbinger standing there, just beyond the flickering beam. He is kinda swaying, experiencing a feedback from his failed Indoctrination attempt of Shepard. The entire assembled fleet uses this temporary lapse to bombard the Reapers, destroying many, with Normandy firing the kill shot that takes down Harbinger. A husk comes running at Shepard, he calmly reaches you and snaps his neck, throwing him on the ground and blasting him a few times. You see the results of how your assets come into play, both from the main game and all the DLC. Aria and the gangs from Omega fighting in Vancouver or Rio, maybe even that field shown in a lot of the promos. Leviathan leading several others against the bulk of the Reaper force surrounding Earth. Your multiplayer characters you promoted are seen fighting in various battles across the galaxy. Etc, etc, etc.

Control/Synthesis: You wake up, stand up, your skin blue-veiny and your eyes glowing, looking very much like TIM and Saren did. You start firing on soldiers that approach. Your LI or Garrus, if you didn't have an LI, comes running up to you, punching and grabbing you before you fall down. You have some sort of intense conversation that ultimately snaps you out of the Indoctrination because your relationships and connections that you have made over the last three games prevent you from harming those closest to you. Again, feedback loop, Normandy kicking Harby's ass, etc, etc, etc.

Refuse: Your LI comes running up to you while you are still laying, passed out, in the rubble. They start shaking you. Harby stands there, staring at you, as it were. Just when Starchild says "SO BE IT", Harbingers says the same thing. You wake up, the trance over as the Reapers decide you aren't worth it. The battle resumes, and if your EMS is high enough, you put up a valiant fight, and might just barely manage to scrape a win out. The losses are incredibly high, and only this cycle is broken. There is still every chance that there are more Reapers waiting in the darkness.

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Okay I am going to bed night guys/gals.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

MWMike2011 wrote...

Wow, again with the hatred for IT...

I know, I was JUST there.
It's pathetic really how they still hold on to such hate.
My favorite qoute is; Sebiot "IT is the gaming equivalent of the "9/11 truther movement". "
I'm getting pretty darn sick of this ignorant hate.

[MWMike2011]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Wow, again with the hatred for IT...

I know, I was JUST there.
It's pathetic really how they still hold on to such hate.
My favorite qoute is; Sebiot "IT is the gaming equivalent of the "9/11 truther movement". "
I'm getting pretty darn sick of this ignorant hate.

Me too. And its not just here, the interwebs in general have become a cesspool of hatred, it seems. I am still open to the idea of IT being true, but I'll be equally fine if its just a theory. I won't burn the game in an unholy rage because of it. I still LOVE the game, probably my favorite of the series. Truth be told, I want IT to be true to give my Shepard a good, fulfilling ending and the ending as is doesn't feel that way to me.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

MWMike2011 wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Wow, again with the hatred for IT...

I know, I was JUST there.
It's pathetic really how they still hold on to such hate.
My favorite qoute is; Sebiot "IT is the gaming equivalent of the "9/11 truther movement". "
I'm getting pretty darn sick of this ignorant hate.

Me too. And its not just here, the interwebs in general have become a cesspool of hatred, it seems. I am still open to the idea of IT being true, but I'll be equally fine if its just a theory. I won't burn the game in an unholy rage because of it. I still LOVE the game, probably my favorite of the series. Truth be told, I want IT to be true to give my Shepard a good, fulfilling ending and the ending as is doesn't feel that way to me.

Well, EC made the games playable again for me at the very least.
And while I can find satisfaction with the EC/destroy, IT is the only way to truly bring ME back to not only its former glory, but beyond that and to the gaming history books as one if not THE greatest story telling games ever.

[MWMike2011]

SwobyJ wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

So...just for mere curiosity sake, what are we going to do if IT turns out to be crap?

It'll be 2013 so...

-get my undergrad
-a goodish job in the meantime
-see whether my relationship with my boyfriend is going to be long term or will end (not that I'm planning or wanting it, but it'll be around that 2-3 hour point where a lot of non-marriage relationships end)
-other games, MMOs, RPGs, etc
-I started my more active lifestyle this Fall, and I plan on more seriously working out (tone, strength, endurance, cardio, etc) in Spring

By no means do I need to buy a ME4. I have a friggin library to choose from now, of unplayed or unfinished games.

I played Fable III on my PC tonight. I kinda like it, but since I never finished Fable and didn't really play Fable II at all, I don't have that context that got people complaining.

Did you get to the end of Fable III, though? Again, THAT was the main bone of contention with a lot of people. And it wasn't that "the ending sucks," it's that there really WASN'T an ending. I mean, you are going, you are going, roll credits. 

Fable: the Lost Chapters will always be my favorite, but Fable II was a GREAT follow up. Fable: the Journey can rot in hell...

I'm still very much on the Road to Rule right now.

I know enough about the ending to understand the complaints....

But since I'm only seeing Fable 3 as more of a Fable 2.5, I'm ok with it, and only hope beyond hope that a Fable 4 (if its happening, ha) actually takes lessons from the failures of the previous games.

I... kinda don't mind the morality lesson of Fable 3 (tyrany vs benevolence, costs and benefits), but the gameplay of it was hit and miss..

I read somewhere that Fable IV is supposedly coming next fall for Xbox. Surely they learned, though. And I TOTALLY get what you are saying about the benevolence vs tyranny. The ending got tough with that. Talk about your choices making a difference! Jeez...lol

Anyway, what did everyone think about my complete guess about how the ending post-IT? 

Modifié par MWMike2011, 11 novembre 2012 - 08:56 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

@MWMike2011

Seems on par with what most of us would expect, though I'm sure we all have our variances.

If you haven't, here's a post-ending script from Arian Dynas written for IT, http://social.biowar...42/blog/213135/

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 11 novembre 2012 - 09:26 .

[BatmanTurian]

So apparently Byne made up IT just to ****** off people who choose control and synthesis. Well done, Byne.

/sarcasm

Seriously, Ieldra says the endings are morally devisive, then doesn't realize why they're devisive (because they're making you think like a Reaper). Also, apparently people have different moral compasses and we should respect that.

Oh wait, we don't. People with different moral compasses than the norm commit crimes and receive punishment.

Then there's Xil, who just wants to save everyone, even omnicidal cyborg frankenstein machines.

Honestly, control and synth people are just loopy. They're indoctrinated (with a lower case i, the regular indoctrinated) and don't even realize it. They are defending the indefensible, committed to the unthinkable, call anyone else who thinks differently zealots, and clearly have no ability to objectively consider that they might be completely wrong or just not thinking clearly. As intelligent as they wish to appear, they just seem to lack the necessary cognitive function of the brain to comprehend critical reasoning. I'm just sick of them all.