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[CmdrShep80]

Dwailing wrote...

I remember someone had mentioned that they were wondering if that bench Shepard is thrown into at the beginning of the game is still around after he is thrown into it.  Well, as far as I can tell, it isn't.  And I think the camera kind of hovers over where it used to be for a moment, as if to emphasize that it's not there.  Now, it's possible that it's just the camera angle.  And I'm not going to call this definitive proof that it never existed.  But it seems like it might not have ever been there.  Could someone flycam this scene please?  I would like to know for sure now, too.  BTW, I'm pretty sure that the bench is visible right up until after Shepard is thrown into it, so if it's going to disappear, it would be right after Shepard hits it.

Edit: Also, I would like to bring up once more the subject of the kid going into the building with the locked door.  I'm pretty certain at this point that the kid is a hallucination given that not only does he enter the building through a locked door, but the panel for the door doesn't disappear.  It just sort of hovers there once the door is "openned" until it "closes" again.  Every other time we see a door open, the panel disappears.

ditto. There were 2 benches. One on each side of the rear door. Though after it seemed to be gone. Plus how Shepard gets up. He looks like he's perpendicular to the door rather than having landed on a bench parallel to the door. The conference table pretty much smashed the door and the area with the two benches yet the bench looks like it was untouched

[MegumiAzusa]

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

We all assume that the Breath Scene takes place by the beam in London. And rightly so cause this is the first thought most of us got seeing it. But what if we are all mistaken assuming that the simplest, most straightforward explanation is the correct one? What if it happens elsewhere? Wouldn't that make for quite a shock when it turns out that way?

I never believed it was definitely London, at least there is nothing pointing to it. That Mako in the background is just something people want to see.

I don't think it's a Mako, but you can't deny that it looks like there is SOME kind of vehicle in the background.  If anything, it looks more like one of the vehicles that Shepard and Co. were riding in to get to the beam.

Edit: OK, maybe you can deny that there is a vehicle back there, but there is SOMETHING back there.

From what I see it's just rubble from walls and beams, I can't see vehicle.

[MegumiAzusa]

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

We all assume that the Breath Scene takes place by the beam in London. And rightly so cause this is the first thought most of us got seeing it. But what if we are all mistaken assuming that the simplest, most straightforward explanation is the correct one? What if it happens elsewhere? Wouldn't that make for quite a shock when it turns out that way?

Imo the breath scene either takes places in London and IT is right. ( what i believe)
..or it doesn´t make any sense... how could Shepard survive a fall from space?

Or maybe the area is shielded enough just like the EC shows?

[CmdrShep80]

Plus by the way the last scene of the rear the camera pans from the left to stop pointed at the door and implies that Shepard hit the left rear bench not the right rear bench.

[Restrider]

Another random thought:
If we assume the endings are literal, I think we should all mourn the brave men and women/Asari who were squashed under the disabled Reapers... a moment of silence, please .

[spotlessvoid]

So Shepard survives a blast that reduces where he ends up to absolute rubble with broken armor and no shields?

[Dark Delta 06]

Also I know this adds nothing to the IT , but it just bothers me a lot  everytime I´m at BSN. 

Do you guys see this shepard to the right in the website background? Now remeber those wierd chrome floor mats on the cars of people that mod them?

LOL  Doesn´t the arm piece on Shepard armor looks almost like one of those car floor mats?  

- anyways keeping with the theme, I really don´t recall EC that well, how was the area shielded? 

Modifié par Dark Delta 06, 11 novembre 2012 - 07:30 .

[Dwailing]

Huh, I just had a thought. On the Fridge Brilliance page (Just assume from now on that I'm referring to ME's), it mentions that Shepard was probably so broken up about the kid because odds are he was watching that kid for six months (Shep's period of incarceration). Well, assuming the kid is a hallucination from the beginning, that would fit the post-Object Rho timeline for indoctrination, wouldn't it? Think about it, indoctrination is a slow but steady process. So, it creates this kid to make Shepard start to care. Then, when the Reapers show up, boom, it kills the kid, and causes Shep's mind to slowly begin to crack.

[Dwailing]

Restrider wrote...

Another random thought:
If we assume the endings are literal, I think we should all mourn the brave men and women/Asari who were squashed under the disabled Reapers... a moment of silence, please .

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=pBY7M2yRVXY

[clennon8]

paxxton wrote...

We all assume that the Breath Scene takes place by the beam in London.

We don't all assume that.

[spotlessvoid]

If the dreams were nothing but Shepard feeling guilty and sad, you would think things like Thane, Mordin, Thessia, Earth, Palaven, Etc would have more impact then one kid.

[Dark Delta 06]

spotlessvoid wrote...

If the dreams were nothing but Shepard feeling guilty and sad, you would think things like Thane, Mordin, Thessia, Earth, Palaven, Etc would have more impact then one kid.

Exactly 

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

Also I know this adds nothing to the IT , but it just bothers me a lot  everytime I´m at BSN. 

Do you guys see this shepard to the right in the website background? Now remeber those wierd chrome floor mats on the cars of people that mod them?

LOL  Doesn´t the arm piece on Shepard armor looks almost like one of those car floor mats?  

- anyways keeping with the theme, I really don´t recall EC that well, how was the area shielded? 

Well if you refer to the decision area something has to have kept the air in or Shepard would be breathing vacuum.

But the moment you pick Destroy (going by the litteral view) that would become null. Remember the kid says "the Crucible will not discriminate."? Well that would mean the Crucible just fried every system in the Citadel as well, including life support, artificial gravity and the shielding...and then the explosion happens.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

If the dreams were nothing but Shepard feeling guilty and sad, you would think things like Thane, Mordin, Thessia, Earth, Palaven, Etc would have more impact then one kid.

Exactly 

Not even mentioning if Shepard has the Sole Suvivor background...

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

We all assume that the Breath Scene takes place by the beam in London. And rightly so cause this is the first thought most of us got seeing it. But what if we are all mistaken assuming that the simplest, most straightforward explanation is the correct one? What if it happens elsewhere? Wouldn't that make for quite a shock when it turns out that way?

I never believed it was definitely London, at least there is nothing pointing to it. That Mako in the background is just something people want to see.

I don't think it's a Mako, but you can't deny that it looks like there is SOME kind of vehicle in the background.  If anything, it looks more like one of the vehicles that Shepard and Co. were riding in to get to the beam.

Edit: OK, maybe you can deny that there is a vehicle back there, but there is SOMETHING back there.

From what I see it's just rubble from walls and beams, I can't see vehicle.

But one thing I find certain is, when I saw that scene back in March, the very first thing that came into my mind (aside from the dreaminess of the Normandy crash scene) was: Wait, he isn't on the Citadel anymore. Where the hell is he?

It was the internetz and you guys that suggested it was London...and it makes sense...somewhat.

[abnocte]

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

Imo the breath scene either takes places in London and IT is right. ( what i believe)
..or it doesn´t make any sense... how could Shepard survive a fall from space?

I agree with you.

ME2 already proved that Shepard ( or anyone else ) can't survive a fall from orbit into a planet.

And it can't be the Citadel since it is destroyed to a point that it is unbelievable that  any part of it would be able to have a breathable atmosphere and gravity.

[MegumiAzusa]

spotlessvoid wrote...

So Shepard survives a blast that reduces where he ends up to absolute rubble with broken armor and no shields?

If the force applied the "right" way yes. Just think of a building collapsing. If you're lucky and don't get crushed by the pieces you survive.

[abnocte]

Regardless of the explosion, if you choose destroy why would Shepard be alive if she had synthetic bits inside her based on reaper technology?

[Eryri]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

So Shepard survives a blast that reduces where he ends up to absolute rubble with broken armor and no shields?

If the force applied the "right" way yes. Just think of a building collapsing. If you're lucky and don't get crushed by the pieces you survive.

Hmm. I'm not sure about this. It seems like the kind of thing that if it were to happen in "real life" you'd say "Wow, truth really is stranger than fiction!". But if it were to happen in a movie you'd probably scoff at how unbelievable it was. (not that there are many real life examples of people surviving exploding space stations)

It just seems like a very odd thing to write in a work of fiction, if you get my meaning.

Sorry I'm not explaining this very well. What i'm trying to say is - if I was writing a scene where I wanted to indicate the possibility of the protagonist surviving by the skin of his teeth, I wouldn't engulf him in a ball of flame, big enough to knock starships around. I'd worry I was straining my audience's credulity too far.

Modifié par Eryri, 11 novembre 2012 - 08:32 .

[masster blaster]

Shepard: With out a future we have no hope...."

The EC provided hope didn't it?

Harbinger: Hope is irelevant.

Harbinger doesn't believe hope, and if you look at the Catalyst.

" You have hope more than you know." And I think for low ems " you have hope more than what you deserve."

Also I will repost this again.

You see in Destroy ending the reason why Edi, and the Geth die is because it's Shepard's synthetic parts that give out. You see Destroy will kill all Synthetics right, yet for Control we only Control the Reapers, not all Synthetics ( funny right). Well as you know we don't see them die even more implying that maybe it didn't happen.

We know for a fact there is no way the Normandy crew knows that Anderson is dead. It's impossible. Right now technology is damged a bit, but can be repaird over time. Yet we are talking about months maybe years before they can find Andersons body, and that goes for Shepard as well.

Yes they will try to find Anderson, and Shepard, but mainly it's the rebuilding part that people will be doing after buring the dead.

Oh were was I you see the brat can't Control Shepard's Organics side, but the Synthetic side it can. Think of the implants in Shepard as small footholds for the Reapers ( not saying that they are Reaper implants, butCerberus did at the time have Reaper implants that increased the strength, intellegence/ everything so maybe).

Further more that's how Shepard breaks the Reapers hold over him/her.

If you look at Control Shepard's Organic side is slowly desintergrating and his/her Synthetic side is finally showing it true form.

For Synthesis it's a melding of Shepard's Organic side fusing with Shepard's Synthetic side. Hence rapid Indoctrination

As for refuse Shepard can't balance out his/her mind and thus is killed.

Now for Destroy I have said since for a long time Shepard has learn to live with the implants, but now he/she has to learn to be what he/she was in ME1.

Hence the Galaxy readiness is Shepard's readiness to over come his/her Synthetics side.

The Assets we gather = Shepard's willpower.

In the end it's up to the player weather or not they believe it's real or not. I have choosen IT, so it's just an ilusion, but for Destroy it's a beacon of hope.

[Eryri]

abnocte wrote...

Regardless of the explosion, if you choose destroy why would Shepard be alive if she had synthetic bits inside her based on reaper technology?

Speaking of high EMS destroy, am I imagining things, or do the lights on the Alliance Spaceships that pass the ruins of the Charon Relay seem to flicker and dim before brightening again? As though the ship's systems are having a bit of glitch.

Perhaps this is to indicate that all technology, even non reaper technology, has taken a bit of a knock from the destroy EMP. If so it makes Shepard's survival in a literal scenario unlikely, even if his implants aren't reaper tech.

Plus where are those ships supposed to be going? It's still going to take them months to get anywhere without the relays working, assuming they can even find somewhere to refuel.

Modifié par Eryri, 11 novembre 2012 - 08:40 .

[abnocte]

Just had a silly though... 

Reapers leave certain technology behind ( Citadel, Mass Relays, ... ) so the new species use it as a base for their own and "follow the path the Reapers desire".

Control is presented as if Shepard will be able to "use" the Reapers as she sees fit.
Reapers are synthetics, so they can be considered "technology".

So with Control we keep using "Reapers technology", meaning we are still following the path they desire...


"Just talking out loud", don't mind me....