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[spotlessvoid]

I love the people who complain about how off topic the IT thread gets, as if the family vibe from all the regulars isn't what's kept the thread afloat in the first place. A large part of what keeps people digging for clues is how much fun sharing what we find with all the friends we've made here is. There is also a steady stream of new people which will inevitably cause a lot of things previously discussed being repeated.

[masster blaster]

Meg as I recall you would post live links so we could watch you and other play matches on mp for ME3. So your are one of the people that post random stuff to, as am I besides this is our community right, so it's a daily bases. Before long it was speculate, trolls coming argue/ debate, thentalk about random stuff, and talk about ME3.

Now it's like speculate, lunch break, sleep, talk about random stuff, more stuff, and wait for dlc to come.

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

We all assume that the Breath Scene takes place by the beam in London. And rightly so cause this is the first thought most of us got seeing it. But what if we are all mistaken assuming that the simplest, most straightforward explanation is the correct one? What if it happens elsewhere? Wouldn't that make for quite a shock when it turns out that way?

I never believed it was definitely London, at least there is nothing pointing to it. That Mako in the background is just something people want to see.

I don't think it's a Mako, but you can't deny that it looks like there is SOME kind of vehicle in the background.  If anything, it looks more like one of the vehicles that Shepard and Co. were riding in to get to the beam.

Edit: OK, maybe you can deny that there is a vehicle back there, but there is SOMETHING back there.

From what I see it's just rubble from walls and beams, I can't see vehicle.

But one thing I find certain is, when I saw that scene back in March, the very first thing that came into my mind (aside from the dreaminess of the Normandy crash scene) was: Wait, he isn't on the Citadel anymore. Where the hell is he?

It was the internetz and you guys that suggested it was London...and it makes sense...somewhat.

Somehow your post reminded me that I should play Mass Effect more thoroughly. I didn't even get the scene and that somehow made my inner life poorer in comparison to others'.

[masster blaster]

You can also add on Spot most of the things on this forum are not ME3 related.

They have ME4 threads MP threads, and more on this forum. Most of the stuff is nothing to do with the thread, were as we we do, but there is nothing to speculate on at the moment.

Most of use have bunkered down for Omega, and are playing AC, Halo, and now COD black ops 2. Hey look on the bright side that means most of the mp players will go back and play Cod, which means the EA server won't go down as much.

Modifié par masster blaster, 11 novembre 2012 - 10:05 .

[MegumiAzusa]

masster blaster wrote...

but there is nothing to speculate on at the moment.

I cannot stop me from breaking out in laughter whenever I'm reading this. There are tons of posts that had been posted and then forgotten about stuff that was worth discussing. Not my problem if you don't want to, but don't use it as a pretext for random chatter.

[paxxton]

One thing is for sure, the Breath Scene does not take place on the Citadel.

[masster blaster]

I have Meg, and I posted things to speculate, but hey sometimes people read them, and sometimes people don't. It's hard to read post when it's in FTL mode trust me I tried, and I was still barly on the first page while everyone was on the 7th or 8th page.

It's not ideal, but hey you made some awsome points as have I.
It's just that we really don't have all the time in the world to read everything, heck I have made long *** post, and do people read them/ reply back mostly and sadly no. It all just deepends really on if people can talk about it in depth. Most of use will not reply but agree in slience.

[byne]

Shepard: If you could have saved them all, would things have worked out better?
James: I dont know.
Shepard: The right choice is usually not the easy one.

Shepard knows whats up.

[abnocte]

Bill Casey wrote...

abnocte wrote...

But if you want me to be more acurate:
Reapers are synthetic life forms fueled by the DNA of the species used for their creation.

EDI: Incorrect. Reapers are sapients constructs. A hybrid of organic and inorganic material.

Note taken...

[masster blaster]

I know byne. What's funny is Shepard says the RIGHT choice is usually not the easy one. Get Destroy is on the Right side, andit's not an easy one to make.

[Restrider]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I love the people who complain about how off topic the IT thread gets, as if the family vibe from all the regulars isn't what's kept the thread afloat in the first place. A large part of what keeps people digging for clues is how much fun sharing what we find with all the friends we've made here is. There is also a steady stream of new people which will inevitably cause a lot of things previously discussed being repeated.

Of course there is a lot of off-topic in this thread. But it fuels the thread and keeps it active in times of less things to talk about (like right now). When Omega comes out, I make the far-fetching assertion that this thread will be kicked into over-drive again and there will be 100-300 pages of interesting stuff.
I do agree though that the thread should not be flooded in too much off-topic stuff. But right now, it is not that bad. Worse are people constantly bickering about menial things. This is just my opinion, though. And don't see this too offensive, please. Impersonal posts usually have the vibe to be taken too seriously on the internet and on BSN.

[clennon8]

paxxton wrote...

One thing is for sure, the Breath Scene does not take place on the Citadel.

I think it probably does, actually.

[Rifneno]

Andromidius wrote...

Huh. So, when talking to James post-Citadel attack, he talks about his fight with the Collectors. And mentioned one of the colonists was a Cerberus spy working with the Collectors.

But this was during Shepard's time with Cerberus, when they were fighting against the Collectors to seize their technology. So that doesn't add up.

Either James was incorrect at guessing the spy was with Cerberus, or... I don't know. Its just a weird detail that doesn't add up.

I found that intriguing as well. Until Paragon Lost tells us exactly what the deal was, I'm assuming it was Dr. O'Loy. He was the traitor in the Firewalker pack. He was helping the Collectors in exchange for them not hitting the colony where his wife was.

[Restrider]

SwobyJ wrote...

I only have this, the Character Survey (hi!), and 1-2 other threads on my bookmarks, and I only look at the rest when I have time.

I at least skim over every new post on this thread though!

With Character Survey you mean this thread, right? I am flattered... Though I'd really appreciate it, when a few people would actually discuss the results/concepts in that thread. A few pages back, their was a short discussion - in total more than in the original thread   - so. Spread the word and discuss in the thread  fss :pinched::pinched:

[MegumiAzusa]

SwobyJ wrote...

Thing is, my post there was about the possible symbolic nature of the ending - of religion, faith, mental process, and illusion. Basically, what I THINK the writers and creative developers were getting at.

Just because it (the post) contained external song lyrics, doesn't mean its not about Shepard being indoctrinated by the enemy, and heading into a personal peaceful dream... or a peaceful death.

So really, if people here actually consider my stuff to be off-topic, then alright - I'm outta here.

You could still have trimmed down the post...

[Restrider]

SwobyJ wrote...

Thing is, my post there was about the possible symbolic nature of the ending - of religion, faith, mental process, and illusion. Basically, what I THINK the writers and creative developers were getting at.

Just because it (the post) contained external song lyrics, doesn't mean its not about Shepard being indoctrinated by the enemy, and heading into a personal peaceful dream... or a peaceful death.

So really, if people here actually consider my stuff to be off-topic, then alright - I'm outta here.

Relax...
60% of all posts here are more off-topic than what you've posted. Sometimes, a few posters like to rant/bicker, so be it...

[Davik Kang]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...
I don't understand this sentiment, at all. Destroy, for me, is the hard choice. Especially if you're playing a pure Paragon Shep. You have to be willing to sacrifice your friends and allies, knowing that there are two alternatives in which they might live. From a literal POV, destroy seems like the renegade 'victory at any and all costs' option.

Shepard seems to agree with this sentiment:

Shepard: If you'd saved them all, would things have worked out better?
Vega: I... I don't know. I don't think so.
Shepard: The right choice is usually not the easy one.


The no-brains 'dumb' choice would be the 'nobody dies, we'll just make everyone the same and there will be eternal peace' synthesis option.

That's because you're thinking too hard.  Which is good, because that's how you make sure that you're picking a choice that you can stand by.  But the absolute standard thoughtless choice is also Destroy.  If a soldier goes into that room and thinks "whaddowy do?"  and remembers the mission was always to Destroy the Reapers, then he picks that.  Destroy is very juch the soldier's choice, the most basic choice, and yet also the best choice if you think about it long and hard.  Con and Syn work as traps for those who think seriously about it but don't make the final connection, and for those who can be tempted by the idea of playing God or playing dictator.  The idea of power in other words.

US Marine training ends with a final section called the Crucible, and the final hurdle of that is called the Reaper.  This final stage apparently deals with mental tests as well as physical ones, presumably to test loyalty and / or understanding of the mission, which is why at one point I was convinced that ME3 was built around the idea of marine training (bearing in mind that Shepard is a marine).

[Gwyphon]

 Talking about being off topic. Oh god, so is talking about talking about being off topic! What have I become?! 

Point is, stop it. 

[Krimzie]

Davik Kang wrote...
US Marine training ends with a final section called the Crucible, and the final hurdle of that is called the Reaper.  This final stage apparently deals with mental tests as well as physical ones, presumably to test loyalty and / or understanding of the mission, which is why at one point I was convinced that ME3 was built around the idea of marine training (bearing in mind that Shepard is a marine).

You just blew my mind. Of all the Crucible references I thought the writers may have been pulling off with that name choice, this seems the most likely. You've inspired me so I just read a summary of this training, and The Reaper occurs when the recruits (permitted only 8 hours of sleep for the 54 hour challenge) are most sleep deprived. 

Oh, if only Shepard got the Warrior's Breakfast!

Modifié par Krimzie, 11 novembre 2012 - 11:37 .

[Andromidius]

Davik Kang wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...
I don't understand this sentiment, at all. Destroy, for me, is the hard choice. Especially if you're playing a pure Paragon Shep. You have to be willing to sacrifice your friends and allies, knowing that there are two alternatives in which they might live. From a literal POV, destroy seems like the renegade 'victory at any and all costs' option.

Shepard seems to agree with this sentiment:

Shepard: If you'd saved them all, would things have worked out better?
Vega: I... I don't know. I don't think so.
Shepard: The right choice is usually not the easy one.


The no-brains 'dumb' choice would be the 'nobody dies, we'll just make everyone the same and there will be eternal peace' synthesis option.

That's because you're thinking too hard.  Which is good, because that's how you make sure that you're picking a choice that you can stand by.  But the absolute standard thoughtless choice is also Destroy.  If a soldier goes into that room and thinks "whaddowy do?"  and remembers the mission was always to Destroy the Reapers, then he picks that.  Destroy is very juch the soldier's choice, the most basic choice, and yet also the best choice if you think about it long and hard.  Con and Syn work as traps for those who think seriously about it but don't make the final connection, and for those who can be tempted by the idea of playing God or playing dictator.  The idea of power in other words.

US Marine training ends with a final section called the Crucible, and the final hurdle of that is called the Reaper.  This final stage apparently deals with mental tests as well as physical ones, presumably to test loyalty and / or understanding of the mission, which is why at one point I was convinced that ME3 was built around the idea of marine training (bearing in mind that Shepard is a marine).

Yep.  If in doubt, go with your gut instinct.  Its usually there because it makes the most sense, and your brain works faster then your conscienceness is aware of (a weird concept).

Its kind of like when you see a good deal being advertised, and you think 'oh that's a good deal' but then wonder if its a scam.  Upon further consideration it isn't, but you doubted it because you started thinking about it.

Though of course, the Crucible is a scam.  So maybe that example wasn't the best.

Edit:  Oh, and from the Wikipedia article on US Marine training:

http://en.wikipedia....ecruit_Training

"On the final day of the Crucible, recruits are awoken and begin their
final march (including "The Reaper" a forced march up a steeply inclined
hill to the top of Edson's Ridge on the west coast)."

Shepard wakes up in front of the Conduit, walks upwards towards the final destination, towards the Reaper Harbinger.

...mind.  ...blown.

Modifié par Andromidius, 11 novembre 2012 - 11:42 .

[Restrider]

Krimzie wrote...

Davik Kang wrote...
US Marine training ends with a final section called the Crucible, and the final hurdle of that is called the Reaper.  This final stage apparently deals with mental tests as well as physical ones, presumably to test loyalty and / or understanding of the mission, which is why at one point I was convinced that ME3 was built around the idea of marine training (bearing in mind that Shepard is a marine).

You just blew my mind. Of all the Crucible references I thought the writers may have been pulling off with that name choice, this seems the most likely. You've inspired me so I just read a summary of this training, and The Reaper occurs when the recruits (permitted only 8 hours of sleep for the 54 hour challenge) are most sleep deprived. 

Oh, if only Shepard got the Warrior's Breakfast!

Wow...
I have to say, Liara was right! A huge amount of tiny little pieces - ingame and meta - are forming an image that is getting a lot clearer...

[Restrider]

SwobyJ wrote...

Restrider wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

I only have this, the Character Survey (hi!), and 1-2 other threads on my bookmarks, and I only look at the rest when I have time.

I at least skim over every new post on this thread though!

With Character Survey you mean this thread, right? I am flattered... Though I'd really appreciate it, when a few people would actually discuss the results/concepts in that thread. A few pages back, their was a short discussion - in total more than in the original thread   - so. Spread the word and discuss in the thread  fss :pinched::pinched:


Yep!

Yeah, I'll get to commenting on it when I can. I'm a huge procrastinator, but I really like your thread idea so far.

Remember to post in the thread! The comment section of the polls may be fine, but the problem is that the thread gets swept away by other thread :C