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[spotlessvoid]

It had to be Shepard. Somebody else would have gotten it wrong.

No seriously, there's very important things like velocity and angle of descent that must be considered when jumping into a synthesis beam.

[MegumiAzusa]

Oh I love this one

Mass Effect Retribution

The Illusive Man was well aware of an interesting phenomenon. The smarter someone was, the easier it was to make them believe a complex lie. The simple-minded focused on the holes in the story; they needed an explanation for every loose end. The intelligent filled in the holes themselves, using logic, reason, and creative thinking to weave the threads together into a perfect tapestry of deception.

[MWMike2011]

JMDekker2 wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Anybody know of a way I can get these in ebook form? I wouldn't mind reading them, but I don't want to get the physical books, would much rather get an e-copy...

for the comics:
https://digital.darkhorse.com
for the books:
http://www.ebooks.com

Wow, awesome, thanks! I'll probably grab the books for Kindle app next payday, they have all four of them bundled for $25

Could you give me a link for the bundle, I can't seem to find it.

http://www.amazon.co...rds=mass effect 

[JMDekker2]

Thanks heaps!

[masster blaster]

Hey Banshee what did I miss in the last 2 hours? Been watching Arby, and Chief my god Chief is just I don't even know.

Anyways since we are talking about the Geth, well what's intresting is that they used Legion to broadcast their signal to a good portion of the Geth. And then Legion wants to use the Reaper code to upgrade is people to true AI's.


I think Legion envy EDI because she was starting to feel emotions.


Oh and what is funny about the Reapers is that in this cycle the Synthetics were peaceful, and waiting for their creators to come back, until the Reaper Nazar came and Indoctrinated half of the Geth race.

In return the Geth became hated through out the galaxy, after the 1 year war ended. Not only did it effect the Galaxy, but it pushed the Quarians to go to War with the Geth even more.

Oh and since they were being Controlled by the Reapers, then what is to say that in the first cycle ( The Leviathans) that the Synthetics were hacked by the Catalyst, and he used them to create him a body so he can complete his work. Thus Harbinger is born.

The first Reaper, and Leader. Over time it Indoctrinated the thrall races. The Keepers were the first to fall, and were genetically inhanced. Thus became the care takers of the Citadel. The Citadel was a gift to the Leviathans, but it was a trap.

The Crucible was a final gift that would let Harbinger kill the Leviathans and prepare them for the ascention. Yet in desperation Harbinger Destroyed the blueprints because if some cycle in the future were to build the Crucible and use it against him it could be the end of him.

Yet one Leviathan managed to grave the prints before Harbinger could Destroy it. Thus we have every cycle try to build the Crucible, now Harbinger unleashed his same old plan in every cycle, yet it begain to see a change in every cycle.

In each cycle a race a single race would begain to cause problems for Harbinger and his Reaper horde. So when he got his hand on the blueprints for the Crucible he deleted vert key compoments to operate the Crucible and then left it with some basic blue prints for future cycles to make.

Now when we get to Shepard's time he/she stoped Harbinger not once, not twice but three times. Harbinger knows Shepard is going to unite the Galaxy, and he knows that if he goes to the Citadel first the Galaxy will be ready for the Reapers and thus loose the element of suprise.

So what Harbinger does after arrival is use an agent in the Alliance depart ment to go into the Prothean ruins and plant the Crucible desgin in it.

Then Harbinger uses TIM to take Omega and go salvage the Human Reaper for what ever purpose Harbinger has. Thus we have TIM the fallen angle, and is now ubducting human colonys to implant Reaper tech in civilians to create an Army for the Reapers.


Now as this happence Harbinger needs some footsoldiers first, so he unleashes his sleeper agents in the Batarian government/ people. After that's done.

He goes straight to Earth, but before he does he send some Reapers to Palavin to take out the Military race, and a few Reapers to conners of the galaxy to strike fear. Then we have Hackett and his fleet.

We don't know if the Reapers have breached Earth yet when Shepard sees the boy. For all we know the Reapers didn't take out Luna until Harbinger was ready. As in the child. You see when I was watching the take back Earth trailer a girl was holding a toy Alliance fighter just like the one we see with the boy with.

Now what's funny is that a Reaper looks down at the Girl, and later we see Shepard pick up the toy. Now when Shepard sees the husk, it's like something inside Shepard snaped.

Could because he/she is angry that a child is dead, or he/she now knows where Harbinger got the idea to use the boy against Shepard.

I know it's a long post but please read it, and reply.

[MWMike2011]

This might be another interesting little read...

Modifié par MWMike2011, 12 novembre 2012 - 04:39 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Hmm reading how the Reapers influenced Grayson into saying that he needs to meet Kahlee instead of telling her to stay away it reminded me of something that felt really strange on my first ME1 playthrough:
There are some dialog where no matter what you pick Shepard always says the same. Sometimes even things that don't fit together at all.
Then the first occurrence I remember it to happen: when Shepard describes her vision of the beacon, that time even with strange noises. Also that there were many complaints about how ME3 had way less options in dialog? Maybe there are no choices because we are not allowed to choose?

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 12 novembre 2012 - 04:48 .

[CmdrShep80]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh I love this one

Mass Effect Retribution

The Illusive Man was well aware of an interesting phenomenon. The smarter someone was, the easier it was to make them believe a complex lie. The simple-minded focused on the holes in the story; they needed an explanation for every loose end. The intelligent filled in the holes themselves, using logic, reason, and creative thinking to weave the threads together into a perfect tapestry of deception.

wow a good find!

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

Shepard: With out a future we have no hope...."

The EC provided hope didn't it?

Harbinger: Hope is irelevant.

Harbinger doesn't believe hope, and if you look at the Catalyst.

" You have hope more than you know." And I think for low ems " you have hope more than what you deserve."

Also I will repost this again.

You see in Destroy ending the reason why Edi, and the Geth die is because it's Shepard's synthetic parts that give out. You see Destroy will kill all Synthetics right, yet for Control we only Control the Reapers, not all Synthetics ( funny right). Well as you know we don't see them die even more implying that maybe it didn't happen.

We know for a fact there is no way the Normandy crew knows that Anderson is dead. It's impossible. Right now technology is damged a bit, but can be repaird over time. Yet we are talking about months maybe years before they can find Andersons body, and that goes for Shepard as well.

Yes they will try to find Anderson, and Shepard, but mainly it's the rebuilding part that people will be doing after buring the dead.

Oh were was I you see the brat can't Control Shepard's Organics side, but the Synthetic side it can. Think of the implants in Shepard as small footholds for the Reapers ( not saying that they are Reaper implants, butCerberus did at the time have Reaper implants that increased the strength, intellegence/ everything so maybe).

Further more that's how Shepard breaks the Reapers hold over him/her.

If you look at Control Shepard's Organic side is slowly desintergrating and his/her Synthetic side is finally showing it true form.

For Synthesis it's a melding of Shepard's Organic side fusing with Shepard's Synthetic side. Hence rapid Indoctrination

As for refuse Shepard can't balance out his/her mind and thus is killed.

Now for Destroy I have said since for a long time Shepard has learn to live with the implants, but now he/she has to learn to be what he/she was in ME1.

Hence the Galaxy readiness is Shepard's readiness to over come his/her Synthetics side.

The Assets we gather = Shepard's willpower.

In the end it's up to the player weather or not they believe it's real or not. I have choosen IT, so it's just an ilusion, but for Destroy it's a beacon of hope.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

invetro wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

@invetro

Since the geth work as a consensus, you would think there would be no way to hide something like that.

Do you mean the hidden code part? Since reapers can't adequately get into Legions platform to fully subvert it, you're probably right. Geth would most likely detect such a thing.

I can't help but wonder where all the other synthetics from previous cycles are though. Has this been explained? Were the other synthetics always completely destroyed? Say we have some geth left over at the end of our cycle, reapers have no more organics to harvest and are about to sod back off to dark space. I can't see them bringing in inferior technology such as the geth and incorporating it into reaper tech. If they have willingly destroyed all other synthetic life previously then where does that really leave us?
Or do they need synthetics every cycle to help combat their own apparent weakness to Leviathan domination?

And if reapers want synthesis in a literal ending, why not just do it? Why not just release their own wave of green monotony? This is why I think IT still has hope. Those choices aren't actually happening and I'm pretty sure the hallucination starts from the highly suspect transport crash before the beam run.

Excuse the disjointed post, but it's 4am and I should really sleep.

Well according to the Catalyst he harvests Organic and Synthetic life equally.

Which is why he intervenned in the Geth and Quarians war, making sure the Geth would destroy the Quarians without intervention and even with intervention it eaily ends with the exstinction of one of the races, because that makes sense within the way he is programmed to preserve civilizations

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:19 .

[shadoww6021]

Just wondering, did anyone find out where TIM got the resources for the Lazarus project. There was a recording at the Cerberus station where Wilson doesn't know where TIM is getting the resources. it seems logical, considering they're cut off from the alliance, that they it would be harder for them to provide the credits and resources to keep it funded. Maybe the reapers wanting Shepard so they could indoctrinate him, or perhaps the alliance personally funding it (for obvious reasons). If anyone knows why could you please tell me.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

shadoww6021 wrote...

Just wondering, did anyone find out where TIM got the resources for the Lazarus project. There was a recording at the Cerberus station where Wilson doesn't know where TIM is getting the resources. it seems logical, considering they're cut off from the alliance, that they it would be harder for them to provide the credits and resources to keep it funded. Maybe the reapers wanting Shepard so they could indoctrinate him, or perhaps the alliance personally funding it (for obvious reasons). If anyone knows why could you please tell me.

Cerberus has several wealthy humans sympathetic to its its cause who donate money as well as several fronts and corperations which on the outside seem normal, but secretly fonds Cerberus.

[shadoww6021]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


Cerberus has several wealthy humans sympathetic to its its cause who donate money as well as several fronts and corperations which on the outside seem normal, but secretly fonds Cerberus.

thanks for that.

[dorktainian]

cerberus is humanity......

the only way cerberus could get the sheer numbers and equipment is for it to actually be alliance military. the only person who would have any stake in keeping shepard alive would be hackett. he is imo the link between cerberus and the alliance. he is the one who says we cannot win conventionally. in the ec....he is the one who knows shep has made it to the citadel.

everyone is expendable apart from shep. why is that, if not to put shep and starbrat in contact?

[OneWithTheAssassins]

invetro wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Legion says that that platform is too complex for the Reapers to do what they did to the rest of the geth.  Which is entirely possible, as they established in ME2 that Legion is a unique platform with the best hardware so he can be a network unto himself.

Geth are looking a bit dodgy, but I still trust them more than the damned quarians.

Ah, that makes sense. It casts a confusing light on the hacking capabilities of reapers though. A weakness?

And yes, while I like Tali, quarians usually get blasted into oblivion in most of my playthroughs.

Yeahhhhhh... not wanting to start a debate on this or anything but I always thought that just because the quarians have a few bad eggs, their entire race doesn't deserve to be wiped out.
That's like saying the salarians deserve to be harvested by the reapers becasue the dalatrass was a b*tch.
Neather the geth or quarians are intirely innocent or guilty. Both sides made mistakes and both deserve a second chance. Which I think is one of the themes of ME3, everyone gets a second chance.
And besides, I always choose piece.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

dorktainian wrote...

cerberus is humanity......

the only way cerberus could get the sheer numbers and equipment is for it to actually be alliance military. the only person who would have any stake in keeping shepard alive would be hackett. he is imo the link between cerberus and the alliance. he is the one who says we cannot win conventionally. in the ec....he is the one who knows shep has made it to the citadel.

everyone is expendable apart from shep. why is that, if not to put shep and starbrat in contact?

Except for when Shepard asks Hacket why me and Hacket gives Shepard a pretty straight answer?

To sum it up, Shepard inspires people in a way which makes them follow him to hell and back, a trait he has demonstrated numerous times. It is the same trait which causes TIM to bring back Shepard in ME2 because he recognices they need Shepard to succeed.

There is no known link between Cerberus and Hackett, you would be better of trying to make a link between Anderson and Cerberus since there is at least a short Shadowbroker video of Anderson meeting a Cerberus operative...and even that is more likely to be Anderson meeting a mole in Cerberus as it is on the Citadel and the Cerberus operative seems to be nervous.

Especially considering as mentioned above that Hacket speaks out against Cerberus several times, such as the "He is wrong, dead Reapers are how we win this."

Also regarding the equibment Cerberus has. This is a universe where mercenary groups can field small armies and armadas.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:15 .

[invetro]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

invetro wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Legion says that that platform is too complex for the Reapers to do what they did to the rest of the geth.  Which is entirely possible, as they established in ME2 that Legion is a unique platform with the best hardware so he can be a network unto himself.

Geth are looking a bit dodgy, but I still trust them more than the damned quarians.

Ah, that makes sense. It casts a confusing light on the hacking capabilities of reapers though. A weakness?

And yes, while I like Tali, quarians usually get blasted into oblivion in most of my playthroughs.

Yeahhhhhh... not wanting to start a debate on this or anything but I always thought that just because the quarians have a few bad eggs, their entire race doesn't deserve to be wiped out.
That's like saying the salarians deserve to be harvested by the reapers becasue the dalatrass was a b*tch.
Neather the geth or quarians are intirely innocent or guilty. Both sides made mistakes and both deserve a second chance. Which I think is one of the themes of ME3, everyone gets a second chance.
And besides, I always choose piece.

Don't get me wrong, I also choose peace when it's available, which has only been on two of my six playthroughs so far. For the other four, I have sided with the geth three times. Last time I played through that mission I sided with the quarians because having them exterminating themselves a fourth time was making me feel bad. There's only so much Tali cliff diving I can stomach. The first time I sided with the geth, I did it because I honestly had no idea that the quarians would be so reckless and continue attacking. That was a kick in the guts.

Try to blow up a dreadnought with me on it, however, and even my paragon Shep wants to punch certain admirals in the gut.

And just to stay on topic, I'm pretty sure the sound when Levi takes a trip into Sheps mind is the same sound when Shep gets flung out of the beam on the Citadel, but that may have been discussed before.

[Gwyphon]

invetro wrote...

8< - - - - - snip - - - - - 8<

And just to stay on topic, I'm pretty sure the sound when Levi takes a trip into Sheps mind is the same sound when Shep gets flung out of the beam on the Citadel, but that may have been discussed before.

The sound that 'zaps' him/her awake? Yeah it was and it's pretty telling. Clearly Leviathan killed IT, right? 

Modifié par Gwyphon, 12 novembre 2012 - 08:42 .

[invetro]

Gwyphon wrote...

invetro wrote...

8< - - - - - snip - - - - - 8<

And just to stay on topic, I'm pretty sure the sound when Levi takes a trip into Sheps mind is the same sound when Shep gets flung out of the beam on the Citadel, but that may have been discussed before.

The sound that 'zaps' him/her awake? Yeah it has and it's pretty telling. Clearly Leviathan killed IT, right? 

No, before that. The exit beam sound, before Shep tumbles across the floor. I have yet to hear anything similar to the awakening noise. I would examine this on youtube, but my headphones are goosed so I'm not able to.

[BleedingUranium]

invetro wrote...

And just to stay on topic, I'm pretty sure the sound when Levi takes a trip into Sheps mind is the same sound when Shep gets flung out of the beam on the Citadel, but that may have been discussed before.

Yep, it's the same sound. It's been mentioned before, but bringing stuff up again on this thread is a good idea as there's usually someone that hasn't seen it before or has forgotten about it

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 12 novembre 2012 - 08:47 .

[CmdrShep80]

invetro wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

invetro wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Legion says that that platform is too complex for the Reapers to do what they did to the rest of the geth.  Which is entirely possible, as they established in ME2 that Legion is a unique platform with the best hardware so he can be a network unto himself.

Geth are looking a bit dodgy, but I still trust them more than the damned quarians.

Ah, that makes sense. It casts a confusing light on the hacking capabilities of reapers though. A weakness?

And yes, while I like Tali, quarians usually get blasted into oblivion in most of my playthroughs.

Yeahhhhhh... not wanting to start a debate on this or anything but I always thought that just because the quarians have a few bad eggs, their entire race doesn't deserve to be wiped out.
That's like saying the salarians deserve to be harvested by the reapers becasue the dalatrass was a b*tch.
Neather the geth or quarians are intirely innocent or guilty. Both sides made mistakes and both deserve a second chance. Which I think is one of the themes of ME3, everyone gets a second chance.
And besides, I always choose piece.

I sided with both of them; the Quarians and the Geth.  It's possible to do. 

Don't get me wrong, I also choose peace when it's available, which has only been on two of my six playthroughs so far. For the other four, I have sided with the geth three times. Last time I played through that mission I sided with the quarians because having them exterminating themselves a fourth time was making me feel bad. There's only so much Tali cliff diving I can stomach. The first time I sided with the geth, I did it because I honestly had no idea that the quarians would be so reckless and continue attacking. That was a kick in the guts.

Try to blow up a dreadnought with me on it, however, and even my paragon Shep wants to punch certain admirals in the gut.

And just to stay on topic, I'm pretty sure the sound when Levi takes a trip into Sheps mind is the same sound when Shep gets flung out of the beam on the Citadel, but that may have been discussed before.

[invetro]

BleedingUranium wrote...

invetro wrote...

And just to stay on topic, I'm pretty sure the sound when Levi takes a trip into Sheps mind is the same sound when Shep gets flung out of the beam on the Citadel, but that may have been discussed before.

Yep, it's the same sound. It's been mentioned before, but bringing stuff up again on this thread is a good idea as there's usually someone that hasn't seen it before or has forgotten about it

Yeah, I try to keep up but I work nights so that's not always easy. Cool though, that's another piece of evidence subtley dropped in there. I honestly thought I was hearing things when I visited Levi.

[Gwyphon]

invetro wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

invetro wrote...

8< - - - - - snip - - - - - 8<

And just to stay on topic, I'm pretty sure the sound when Levi takes a trip into Sheps mind is the same sound when Shep gets flung out of the beam on the Citadel, but that may have been discussed before.

The sound that 'zaps' him/her awake? Yeah it has and it's pretty telling. Clearly Leviathan killed IT, right? 

No, before that. The exit beam sound, before Shep tumbles across the floor. I have yet to hear anything similar to the awakening noise. I would examine this on youtube, but my headphones are goosed so I'm not able to.

Ah when he gets shot out? I'll have to listen to it again when I get home. But the weird sound that's made when you 'wake up' on the floor of the citadel after popping out of the beam is the same as the leviathan dream transition noise, which is pretty significant considering they purposly added it in with the EC.
There are a crazy ammount of similarities between Leviathan and the ending sequence anyway.
Edit: I sit atop my mighty pyramid of poor spelling and grammar. 

Modifié par Gwyphon, 12 novembre 2012 - 08:53 .