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[Eryri]

Humakt83 wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...
If I were to draw conclusions, I'd say they're not working on a single player game. Montreal taking the reigns on this instead of Edmonton is also a litte.. ominous I guess? For me at least. It's great that they're using engines like frostbite, though. I hope, sincerely hope, they're not trying to make another mmorpg.

If its yet another boring MMORPG I'll puke.

I thought MMOs necessarily had quite basic graphics due to server lag and similar issues? If so, wouldn't this fancy new frostbite engine be wasted on it?

Also if this ME4 is going to be on next gen hardware, how are we going to import our saves? There's already talk that the PS4 won't be backwards compatible (boo Sony).

Modifié par Eryri, 12 novembre 2012 - 05:46 .

[spotlessvoid]

I always think back to the Rachni queens promise. Maybe you're war assets are busy taking on Harbinger and friends while Shepard is having his power nap

[Humakt83]

Eryri wrote...

Also if this ME4 is going to be on next gen hardware, how are we going to import our saves? There's already talk that the PS4 won't be backwards compatible (boo Sony).

By making it a PC-exclusive. 

Davik Kang wrote...
But it's not relevant to the point.  I ask again - having failed to indoctrinate Shepard, why let him live?

All answers to that question are headcanon, which bores me, but here you go:

1. He may not have other options. The Child says there is a little time. Maybe allied forces manage to make Harbinger withdraw?
2. Having escaped the indoctrination attempt might leave Harbinger vulnerable. Like defeating frog-Saren left Sovereign vulnerable.
3. Harbinger may again attempt to indoctrinate Shepard or just keep his body intact (Harbinger wants Shepard which is evident from the comics and ME 2, also Arrival).
4. Leaving Shepard battered, broken and unable to continue fighting might decrease the morale of allied troops, instead of just turning him/her a martyr.

Sure, Harbinger can kill Shepard, but what would that gain them?

Modifié par Humakt83, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:01 .

[Davik Kang]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I always think back to the Rachni queens promise. Maybe you're war assets are busy taking on Harbinger and friends while Shepard is having his power nap

Yeah that's what Restrider said and it makes sense.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I always think back to the Rachni queens promise. Maybe you're war assets are busy taking on Harbinger and friends while Shepard is having his power nap

My thoughts exactly. With high enough EMS Shepard is safe during the Indoctrination attempt.

My own interpretation of how the Rahcni could be used in a Indoctrination break out scene uses this idea in that we see Rachni fending of Reaper forces even as the Queen helps Shepard break free.

Similar things could be shown depending on what was your primary way of breaking free, wether it was choice or contingency.

[Eryri]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I always think back to the Rachni queens promise. Maybe you're war assets are busy taking on Harbinger and friends while Shepard is having his power nap

My thoughts exactly. With high enough EMS Shepard is safe during the Indoctrination attempt.

My own interpretation of how the Rahcni could be used in a Indoctrination break out scene uses this idea in that we see Rachni fending of Reaper forces even as the Queen helps Shepard break free.

Similar things could be shown depending on what was your primary way of breaking free, wether it was choice or contingency.

That would be epic - "our crescendo will burn the darkness clean". About time Bioware delivered on that promise.

What do you see as the fall back method of breaking free for Sheps who were daft enough to kill the queen in ME1? Liara's gift? Eve's Crystal? Intervention from the L.I.?

[ThisOneIsPunny]

Eryri wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...
If I were to draw conclusions, I'd say they're not working on a single player game. Montreal taking the reigns on this instead of Edmonton is also a litte.. ominous I guess? For me at least. It's great that they're using engines like frostbite, though. I hope, sincerely hope, they're not trying to make another mmorpg.

If its yet another boring MMORPG I'll puke.

I thought MMOs necessarily had quite basic graphics due to server lag and similar issues? If so, wouldn't this fancy new frostbite engine be wasted on it?

Also if this ME4 is going to be on next gen hardware, how are we going to import our saves? There's already talk that the PS4 won't be backwards compatible (boo Sony).

A lot of EA games have been using frostbite, including ones with multiplayer. They didn't mention what version it is, so I don't know. I imagine they could have optimized it after using it so many times if it's one of the older version and not frostbite 2, shruggot. In general, I don't like how Montreal's the one in charge. They're consulting Casey Hudson, but??? Also if Montreal's working on this, what's Edmonton working on??

[spotlessvoid]

Edmonton is working on the ME3 expansion, duh

[masster blaster]

Punny it could be a dlc we are not aware of/ a sudden change. I really don't know but what they are working on is either ME related, or Dragon age.

[MaximizedAction]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...
A lot of EA games have been using frostbite, including ones with multiplayer. They didn't mention what version it is, so I don't know. I imagine they could have optimized it after using it so many times if it's one of the older version and not frostbite 2, shruggot. In general, I don't like how Montreal's the one in charge. They're consulting Casey Hudson, but??? Also if Montreal's working on this, what's Edmonton working on??

Edmonton is working on DA3 (together with Montreal). Plus, there's this other franchise the ME team is developing. Plus maybe super secret ME3 DLC.

edit: 'd.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:14 .

[ThisOneIsPunny]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Edmonton is working on the ME3 expansion, duh

That's what I think, as well as the game Montreal's working on being a spin-off more than a sequel. As I've seen others point out about the scale of destruction in the frostbite engine, if this isn't an MMO it's going to be one hell of a game. Possibly set in another war if not a behind the scenes deal with the reaper war.

MaximizedAction wrote...
Edmonton is working on DA3 (together with Montreal). 

I was wondering about that! I always forget if Edmonton also works on Dragon Age or if it's another place altogether. 

Modifié par ThisOneIsPunny, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:17 .

[Davik Kang]

Double-post somehow... 

Modifié par Davik Kang, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:15 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Eryri wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I always think back to the Rachni queens promise. Maybe you're war assets are busy taking on Harbinger and friends while Shepard is having his power nap

My thoughts exactly. With high enough EMS Shepard is safe during the Indoctrination attempt.

My own interpretation of how the Rahcni could be used in a Indoctrination break out scene uses this idea in that we see Rachni fending of Reaper forces even as the Queen helps Shepard break free.

Similar things could be shown depending on what was your primary way of breaking free, wether it was choice or contingency.

That would be epic - "our crescendo will burn the darkness clean". About time Bioware delivered on that promise.

What do you see as the fall back method of breaking free for Sheps who were daft enough to kill the queen in ME1? Liara's gift? Eve's Crystal? Intervention from the L.I.?

LI could be the most basic fall back, but could (and should) incure a heavy penalty to work as well as high EMS work. 

Such penalties could be that it only triggers with Control (not Synthesis, a better "contingency" is needed there) and results in Shepard either killing his LI before breaking free (or himself) leaving it in his squads hand to finish the fight.

Eve´s crystal could indeed be another and of similar consequeence and reqierements as the LI.

I imagine Javik´s memory shard beeing a possible third with about the same things as the above except that maybe it works at Synthesis too and Shepard only kills himself and no one else.

A possible fourth could be Leviathan with Leviathan overidding the Reapers control with some comment about still needing Shepard a little longer. Could lead to serious mental issues for Shepard preventing a completely happy ending.

As for the Rachni Queen as i have mnetioned before it could easily result in the Rahcni Queens death if triggered to save Shepard, essentially killing of the Rahcni race. There would be some sad beauty in the Rahcni Queen sacrificing herself to save the person who gave her species a second chance.

In short every contingency, no matter how deep should carry a penalty. The only possible way to get a perfect ending would be to choose Destroy and break free through purely through Shepards own will and choice.

[Davik Kang]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...
 Also if Montreal's working on this, what's Edmonton working on??

The new IP?  Maybe they've got a new story to tell

Although... 

spotlessvoid wrote...
Edmonton is working on the ME3 expansion, duh

I thik they confimed they're working on new DLC that is "unlike anything they've done before" right?  So makes sense.

[masster blaster]

The problem we will run into if it's an IT dlc, then Literalist will b**** about " They did this to shut you up, and it wasn't intended" No offence but I am going to post a video clip of Master chief from Arby and Chief were Chief is dropping the F boom on online.

[Restrider]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Headcanon's a wonderful thing.  As is sticking your head in the sand.  

That's not where it's stuck

I should not have clicked that link.

Because now I'm annoyed again.  I hate strawmen.

Then click Megumi's link a couple posts back to find out about the new top secret dlc being finalized

I hope that DLC features a lot of bouncing---

[Restrider]

masster blaster wrote...

The problem we will run into if it's an IT dlc, then Literalist will b**** about " They did this to shut you up, and it wasn't intended" No offence but I am going to post a video clip of Master chief from Arby and Chief were Chief is dropping the F boom on online.

If we are at the point were IT DLC is released, do you think anyone will care what the literalists say about it?
The only thing most ITers would try to do is not to burst into all those literalist threads shouting the biggest "I TOLD YOU SO!" of gaming history...

[hiraeth]

Restrider wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

The problem we will run into if it's an IT dlc, then Literalist will b**** about " They did this to shut you up, and it wasn't intended" No offence but I am going to post a video clip of Master chief from Arby and Chief were Chief is dropping the F boom on online.

If we are at the point were IT DLC is released, do you think anyone will care what the literalists say about it?
The only thing most ITers would try to do is not to burst into all those literalist threads shouting the biggest "I TOLD YOU SO!" of gaming history...

I suppose I can't speak for everyone, but I wouldn't give a s*** about what literalists think if an IT DLC came out. I'd be too busy basking in the "F*** Yeah!" glory that I was expecting and should have gotten 8 months ago. 

Modifié par MassEffectFShep, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:44 .

[spotlessvoid]

Yeah, for real. If an IT based dlc/expansion was released, and it was well done, I think even most literalist would be pleased at additional content plus a proper glorious ending to a glorious trilogy. I think only the hardcore synthesis crowd would be upset...and well who gives a crap what they think? They are a tiny fraction of the fanbase

[paxxton]

Hello. I had a Valiant II in my Commendation Pack. I hear it's one of the best N7 Weapons.

Modifié par paxxton, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:52 .

[masster blaster]

True Rstrider, but to be honest I will just tell my friend Austin I told you so, and try not to give him the finger because he does that to me when he says "I told you so."

[spotlessvoid]

And tbh, Bioware going with something more akin to Davik, Clennon, and others Shepard is tripping balls on the Citadel theory would be acceptable. Not perfect because there are still a lot of plot holes, but I could be happy. As long as synthesis and starchild are debunked-I'm good. Really, I could see a indoctrination starts at the shuttle crash as having a lot of potential for more content

[hiraeth]

And then after the IT DLC, I want the last lines before the credits roll to be:

Admiral Hackett: Ready to get back to work?
Shepard: With pleasure.

[paxxton]

MassEffectFShep wrote...

And then after the IT DLC, I want the last lines before the credits roll to be:

Admiral Hackett: Ready to get back to work?
Shepard: With pleasure.

Or Kaidan shouting "No! Don't touch him. It's too dangerous." And then we wake up on Eden Prime 3 years earlier.  The camera shows Shepard's eye opening, like in Lost.

Modifié par paxxton, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:04 .

[masster blaster]

Okay I know get a gifts of Harbingers plan.

Okay after Arrival Harbinger is building up his forces. He get's incontact with TIM ( his hidin pawn) and orders TIM to take Omega and salvage the proto Reaper. Then Harbinger tells TIM to use the Reaper implants to better your troops, and gather coloinst to build him a new spec ops army ( do to the Collectors fall).

Now Harbinger needs a huge army to go to Earth so he can have ground troops, so the Batarians are his prime target. As the Batarians are turned into Harbingers troops, Harbinger orders a good portion of Reapers to go to Palavin and hult the military races that could cause problems. Then Harbinger orders some Reapers into groups, and go out into some systems and cause chaos/ send a message to the galaxy.

Now Harbinger sets his eyes on Earth. He picks Earth for three reasons.

1. Humanity has been the problem for everything.

2. Shepard is on Earth, and Shepard needs to learn what happence when you f with Harbinger/ to Indoctrinate Shepard.

3. It sets up Harbingers plan because even though Shepard may not have been born on Earth, it's his races home planet that's getting the hammer the hardest, and Anderson is now on Earth.

Now again read my last post prier to this one. Again it explains why the Reapers didn't attack Mars.

Oh and I forgot about the Geth. Harbinger got reports from TIM that the Quarians were about to go to war with the Geth. So Harbinger sent a Destroyer Reaper to offer the Geth some help. Yet the Geth knew what was going to happen if the join the Reapers, but they didn't want to die. In short turn Harbinger got himself free soldiers, but not only that, but he doesn't have to use his Reapers to take out the Quarian fleet. It's a win win for Harbinger.


Now when Shepard arrives on the Citadel Harbinger is making his plans come true. In order to put more stress on Shepard Harbinger orders TIM to send his forces to Surkes, and kill the Female Krogan., it failes but Harbinger was two steps ahead of Shepard.

Cerberus was already on Tuchanka rearming a bome that could kill a lot of Krogan support. Yet before Shepard should go to Tuchanka Grunt's company is endanger.

So not only does Shepard have to save the Krogan race, but his/her friend Grunt. Harbinger knows well if Shepard were to die, his/her friends would take Shepard's place, so Harbinger send Cerberus to deal with the Human squuadmembers except Liara, while Harbinger would use his forces to take out the non Human squadmembers.

First we have Jack, and her students, if you don't help Jack she becomes a Phantom, and so does Ramiraz.

Not sure about Jacob, but let's say he is just a Centurian

Miranda well she is dead if you fail to save here

And so on.

Now when Shepard arrives on Tuchanak Harbinger set a Destroy to guard the Shrowd. Now you have to options screw the Krogan, or not.

Now let's think back. For a moment. Harbinger gains what.

If you cure the Genophage Harbinger will be pissed of, but now that their weakedness is gone, they can now be Harvested to become a Reaper.

If you don't cure the Genophage, then it makes Harbingers job easy because the Krogan over the years will die out.


Now after we make our choice Harbinger sent TIM a message to recapture the Citadel, so they could bring it to Earth, and not only that, but it was time for Harbinger to Indoctrinate everyone on board the Citadel, and hack their computers to find data on the their plans to attack/ secret bases.