Davik Kang wrote...
SwobyJ wrote...
The whole point would be to obtain Shepard. That's actually the continued mystery that even Leviathan adds on more speculation about.
Now, there could be a ton of other objectives, like collecting all the galaxy's forces together for something, but we *know* Harbinger is friggin obsessed with Shepard. We can also assume that the Reapers/Harbinger doesn't ever actually think they're going to lose, and that they have all the time in the world. It is true that ME2 was barely even a setback, when put into context.
But I consider Crucible to be more than a trap. Like its name, its a test, a test to unite the galaxy's resources and peoples onto a singular goal.
Yeah ok. I never saw Shepard as a singularly important goal... more I figured that Harbinger and Leviathan 'noticed' Shepard simply because she was constantly able to defeat Reaper plans and Reaper presence everywhere she went. and even unite a galaxy, where other superpowers (Cerberus, Quarians, sometimes even the Coucil) sought to divide it.
So I think Shepard became important as an adversary, rather than the plan all along was to trap Shepard because of her 'destiny'. I figured if they needed an individual that Saren or Javik or maybe even TIM would've been acceptable.
I guess what I'm saying is that I figured the repeated attempts on Shepard's life were genuine, and I'm not sure how fondly I'd look back on the story if they were intentionally keeping her alive all along. Personally I'd prefer that Shepard had to earn her greatness, rather than simply being marked for it. But such stories have been written before, and I guess it wouldn't change things that much (protagonists will almost always survive to the end of a story, so they're narratively invincible anyway and Shepard's no different here).
I think its more "Capture him, dead." and as Shepard increasingly does the badass, it becomes more and more "Capture him, dead or alive." and now in ME3 "Capture him, alive and willing."
I'm thinking back to the 'leaked script' that had the Reapers talk to Shepard and say something like "We are Shepards too".
Basically, that each Reaper has an uberconsciousness that is indoctrinated into the fold, and Shepard may be the most powerful in will than any of the rest.
And Javik may have been the Prothian cycle 'avatar', but was lost to it and resisted any efforts to obtain him til the end. (I consider the Prothian cycle to be uniquely equipped due to Leviathan manipulations, but whatever)
(this also might be related to the original idea of Javik being the Catalyst)
So getting Shepard may not be a singlularly important goal, but it may be the reason for TWO things:
1)The Reapers roflstomping Earth first, and focusing on humanity and their genetic qualities
but also
2)The Reapers holding back somewhat, both on the larger scale (ignoring Citadel, harvesting asap instead of expanding to attack everywhere), and the smaller scale (EDI even notes that the Reapers should have overcome the London FOB a while ago).
I kinda see Shepard's presence in the series as being simultaniously the reason for the Reapers to pinpoint where he is and focus there, but also the reason for Shepard rising to the challenge (ha, just like in Shepard's las speech) and succeeding.
So the Crucible run is the final test of that, in the subtext. You've gathered everyone (good!), but also led them into a trap (bad!), but together, you may all overcome that (like ME1/ME2!) and kick the Reapers in the balls.
We just haven't seen the kicking in the balls part yet. $$$$$ for EA, after all.
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