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TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

So, any new news lately? Or is everything still as it was 12 hours ago?


Well, estebanus has officially renounced his belief in IT, and I've started wrting fan fiction.  Check the link in my sig if you're interested.


What? :blink: For what reason did estebanus do that? 

Interesting thought. What if everyone for IT just quit on it and said it was BS? Where would BioWare then be? (My prediction- they would be in big trouble...and if IT was true it might actually force them to say the truth.)

Posted ImageSo should we all (fake) quit the IT and force their hand? Posted Image

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TJBartlemus wrote...

So no link for Chris's comment? I can't find it myself....was it a twitter comment?

PS. Simon, I believe you would be interested in discussing/debating the WNT in it's thread. (IN signature)


The link is in the first tweet:
fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 04 août 2012 - 07:42 .


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Aha, so That's why my quotes fail! Each time I add a smilie when talking to Banshee, it screws up!

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MaximizedAction wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

So no link for Chris's comment? I can't find it myself....was it a twitter comment?

PS. Simon, I believe you would be interested in discussing/debating the WNT in it's thread. (IN signature)


The link is in the first tweet:
fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376

I think he meant that lockdown post earlier today.

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FFZero wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

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I don't see how they didn't intend it. There is so much evidence that points to them intending it. The question is will they expand upon it. I cannot emphasize how much I want them to, because if they don't I'll be left with no ending to the awesome series. Posted Image I just want my squadmate/LI closure! Posted Image

So do I, but I don't believe we ever will.

I say, if IT isn't true and/or we don't get it expanded upon, all of us (mostly the PC users) should somehow make a modded ending for the game. I know that wouldn't really work, but I dunno I just...Posted Image

WE NEED SOMETHING!Posted Image



Sadly we can't actually mod the game to that extent. We could make a new mini-game in theory using the games assets, but I’m pretty sure that EA/Bioware would take exception to that and cry copyright infringement.

The most we could do is make a machinima using in-game assets, but even doing that is a little iffy when it comes to copyright, I think most companies view it as harmless though.

Recently I’ve been trying to recreate some of the Marauder Shields comic pages in machinima form in the UDK but I haven’t had much luck since I’m still trying to get my head around a lot of the tools.

Well even if they cry copyright infringement, what of it? I mean what could they do? It would make them look bad. Like really bad. Like how some people want to be arrested because it proves their point.

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estebanus wrote...
I was talking more about the people who did leave. Glad you're still here [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]

Wouldn't mind Masster Blaster giving up, though... *grumble, grunt*<_<


I think they were just indoctrinated. We've lost them and there was nothing we could do. I think back to ME1 where that salarian in the lower level cell says indoctrination is much more horrifying.

Don't accept everything at face value. Moral of the story.

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[quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]FFZero wrote...

Just wondering Estebanus, if Leviathan provides more evidence for IT will you become a believer again or are you pretty much done with it completely? [/quote]That depends on what kinda evidence that is. I mean, if Leviathan completely denounces the catalyst's existance, I'd take that as some solid evidence for IT.
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Well, we know if will have solid evidence for IT, or at least for not trusting the Guardian. Probably both. That's why I want everyone to hold on until it comes out! If people leave after that it's a bit more understandable.[/quote]I'm still here, aren't I? I'm still speculating here. If I'd have let go totally...Well, then I wouldn't be here talking right now, would I? I also wouldn't be a member of the IT group anymore.
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I was talking more about the people who did leave. Glad you're still here Posted Image

Wouldn't mind Masster Blaster giving up, though... *grumble, grunt*<_<
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He's okay, but I don't think anyone would mind if he learned how to spell/use puncuation/use grammar...

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paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

So no link for Chris's comment? I can't find it myself....was it a twitter comment?

PS. Simon, I believe you would be interested in discussing/debating the WNT in it's thread. (IN signature)


The link is in the first tweet:
fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376

I think he meant that lockdown post earlier today.


As I wrote, the link to the lockdown message is in the first tweet, but ok, here's the link:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/13492198/19#13503201

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estebanus wrote...

Aha, so That's why my quotes fail! Each time I add a smilie when talking to Banshee, it screws up!

Weird! Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Aha, so That's why my quotes fail! Each time I add a smilie when talking to Banshee, it screws up!

Weird! Posted Image

Here, I'll demonstrate:

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[quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]FFZero wrote...

Just wondering Estebanus, if Leviathan provides more evidence for IT will you become a believer again or are you pretty much done with it completely? [/quote]That depends on what kinda evidence that is. I mean, if Leviathan completely denounces the catalyst's existance, I'd take that as some solid evidence for IT.
[/quote]
Well, we know if will have solid evidence for IT, or at least for not trusting the Guardian. Probably both. That's why I want everyone to hold on until it comes out! If people leave after that it's a bit more understandable.[/quote]I'm still here, aren't I? I'm still speculating here. If I'd have let go totally...Well, then I wouldn't be here talking right now, would I? I also wouldn't be a member of the IT group anymore.
[/quote]
I was talking more about the people who did leave. Glad you're still here [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]

Wouldn't mind Masster Blaster giving up, though... *grumble, grunt*<_<
[/quote]

Then I will leave then. if that's what you want Estebanus. And that goes to anyone else that wants me gone, I will go.

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Told ya!:o

Modifié par estebanus, 04 août 2012 - 07:49 .


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Oh great, Estabanus is all depressed today and now MB might storm off because of it.

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[quote]masster blaster wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]FFZero wrote...

Just wondering Estebanus, if Leviathan provides more evidence for IT will you become a believer again or are you pretty much done with it completely? [/quote]That depends on what kinda evidence that is. I mean, if Leviathan completely denounces the catalyst's existance, I'd take that as some solid evidence for IT.
[/quote]
Well, we know if will have solid evidence for IT, or at least for not trusting the Guardian. Probably both. That's why I want everyone to hold on until it comes out! If people leave after that it's a bit more understandable.[/quote]I'm still here, aren't I? I'm still speculating here. If I'd have let go totally...Well, then I wouldn't be here talking right now, would I? I also wouldn't be a member of the IT group anymore.
[/quote]
I was talking more about the people who did leave. Glad you're still here [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]

Wouldn't mind Masster Blaster giving up, though... *grumble, grunt*<_<
[/quote]

Then I will leave then. if that's what you want Estebanus. And that goes to anyone else that wants me gone, I will go.

[/quote]I was simply joking. This thread wouldn't be the same without you!

Modifié par estebanus, 04 août 2012 - 07:49 .


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Estebauns I really don't have a sense of humor to be honest, so I didn't pick up the joke.

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Even the quote tags are too depressed to work.

Also, I wonder where Arian is, he'd slap the positive energy right back into this thread.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 04 août 2012 - 07:52 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

So no link for Chris's comment? I can't find it myself....was it a twitter comment?

PS. Simon, I believe you would be interested in discussing/debating the WNT in it's thread. (IN signature)


The link is in the first tweet:
fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376


That's what everyone is worked up over? WTF? I've been saying the same thing for a long time now. They will not continue after the endings. They may change portions of it, but they won't continue or change. With that realization, it really doesn't affect IT or WNT or anything. IT and WNT are interpretations/perspectives to what we have as the endings. All we need is confirmation that those perspectives are true or at least irrefutable proof. That doesn't mean we need a DLC that continues after the endings. We will have to wait till the next game for a continuation or possible confirmation of IT.

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Even the quote tags are too depressed to work.

Also, I wonder where Arian is, he'd slap the positive energy right back into this thread.

Probably off chasing Rin in Katawa Shoujo...

That game is a work of art. Truly, it is.

Modifié par estebanus, 04 août 2012 - 07:54 .


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I think I should repost what I wrote earlier about that lockdown message.

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estebanus wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Even the quote tags are too depressed to work.

Also, I wonder where Arian is, he'd slap the positive energy right back into this thread.

Probably off chasing Rin in Katawa Shoujo...


I thought he was doing Emi's route.

Either way, KS would be my guess too.

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If anyone wants to speculate about something (small) that no one has brought up then here's something I noticed recently:
http://www.youtube.c...MwU_vk#t=32m45s (Thanks Megumi :D)

So Sovereign leaves Eden Prime with the aid of rockets.

 Skip to 9:10, 10:40 or 10:55 to see the reapers leave without rockets.

This could be a retcon but it just makes it seem even more surreal to me. What do you guys think? Retcon, surrealism, or plothole?

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Didn't read it to the end.

Modifié par paxxton, 04 août 2012 - 07:59 .


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byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Even the quote tags are too depressed to work.

Also, I wonder where Arian is, he'd slap the positive energy right back into this thread.

Probably off chasing Rin in Katawa Shoujo...


I thought he was doing Emi's route.

Either way, KS would be my guess too.

Good thing he wasn't there when I spoiled Emi's ending, then.

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estebanus wrote...

That game is a work of art. Truly, it is.


I dont know if you know this, since last I checked they dont tell you on the front page of the KS site or anything, but are you aware that most of the people involved in making KS came from 4chan?

If people from 4chan  can make something that awesome, it gives me hope for humanity.

Modifié par byne, 04 août 2012 - 07:56 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

FFZero wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I say, if IT isn't true and/or we don't get it expanded upon, all of us (mostly the PC users) should somehow make a modded ending for the game. I know that wouldn't really work, but I dunno I just...Posted Image

WE NEED SOMETHING!Posted Image



Sadly we can't actually mod the game to that extent. We could make a new mini-game in theory using the games assets, but I’m pretty sure that EA/Bioware would take exception to that and cry copyright infringement.

The most we could do is make a machinima using in-game assets, but even doing that is a little iffy when it comes to copyright, I think most companies view it as harmless though.

Recently I’ve been trying to recreate some of the Marauder Shields comic pages in machinima form in the UDK but I haven’t had much luck since I’m still trying to get my head around a lot of the tools.

Well even if they cry copyright infringement, what of it? I mean what could they do? It would make them look bad. Like really bad. Like how some people want to be arrested because it proves their point.


Worst case scenario they sue the people making it and take them to court.  I'm not saying that it wouldn't go against them but companies like EA are ridiculously protective over their IP's and let’s be honest here, if you got an email from them saying ‘Stop what you’re doing or we will take you to court’ would you ignore them and carry on?