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paxxton wrote...

@CmdrShep80 What app do you use to record gameplay? I tried fraps but the trial only allows for 30-second videos.


I was looking around too and ended up settling with fraps too.  I paid for the full version $37 is really worth it where you can record as much as you want.  It beats the $200 fancy recorders that use multiple PCs lol.  I made several test recordings of ME3 and for the most part it works well.  Though the part that lags the most is when I go through a mass effect relay.  Not sure if moving fraps to a lower frame rate or a higher frame rate is better but I notice if I give fraps an unlimited frame rate (the 9999) it tends to lag less. 

I think the thing now I'm trying to figure out is how long can I record before fraps fries itself or my harddrive runs out of space.  The files are huge lol EDIT - though using the windows movie maker drops the file size to something reasonable.  The largest movie I did was about 6 minutes cause I wanted to play around with the effects and the trim/cut tools to cut out certain things.  Ended up being 618 mb instead of what was 47.6 gb for a 16 min raw vid

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I know fraps can truncate the movies into 4gb pieces which is good but what I'm trying to keep in mind is how do I record several hours of gameplay without burning something out

That way I can sort through various parts of the gameplay and make videos from different parts of the game. Though, I'm sure someone already probably just extracts everything lol (how they do they'll have to share) and use those

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@CmdrShep80 What app do you use to record gameplay? I tried fraps but the trial only allows for 30-second videos.


I was looking around too and ended up settling with fraps too.  I paid for the full version $37 is really worth it where you can record as much as you want.  It beats the $200 fancy recorders that use multiple PCs lol.  I made several test recordings of ME3 and for the most part it works well.  Though the part that lags the most is when I go through a mass effect relay.  Not sure if moving fraps to a lower frame rate or a higher frame rate is better but I notice if I give fraps an unlimited frame rate (the 9999) it tends to lag less. 

I think the thing now I'm trying to figure out is how long can I record before fraps fries itself or my harddrive runs out of space.  The files are huge lol

I guess I would buy the full version if I was into serious gameplay recording.
 
You can try changing fraps process and/or ME3 game process priorities in the Task Manager. Watch out though, because setting them too low might make the apps skip frames. Setting them too high might interfere with Windows System processes.

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I was looking up Harbinger and noticed he has some sort of obsession with gathering Shepard. with all the talk of the beam shooting, I think now that Harbinger is purposefully intending to miss Shepard and use his beam to knock Shepard around and like everyone was talking earlier, induce a dream state.

From the Wiki
Harbinger is a Reaper who resides in dark space with the rest of the Reaper fleet. It is the overseer of the Collectors' operations, frequently possessing individual Collectors to fight battles personally. Harbinger's involvement first began two months after the Battle of the Citadel, when it made a deal with the Shadow Broker to gain possession of Commander Shepard's body following the destruction of the SSV Normandy. This did not succeed, however, and Shepard would go on to be resurrected by the Lazarus Project while Harbinger advanced its sinister plans for the galaxy.

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paxxton wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@CmdrShep80 What app do you use to record gameplay? I tried fraps but the trial only allows for 30-second videos.


I was looking around too and ended up settling with fraps too.  I paid for the full version $37 is really worth it where you can record as much as you want.  It beats the $200 fancy recorders that use multiple PCs lol.  I made several test recordings of ME3 and for the most part it works well.  Though the part that lags the most is when I go through a mass effect relay.  Not sure if moving fraps to a lower frame rate or a higher frame rate is better but I notice if I give fraps an unlimited frame rate (the 9999) it tends to lag less. 

I think the thing now I'm trying to figure out is how long can I record before fraps fries itself or my harddrive runs out of space.  The files are huge lol

I guess I would buy the full version if I was into serious gameplay recording.
 
You can try changing fraps process and/or ME3 game process priorities in the Task Manager. Watch out though, because setting them too low might make the apps skip frames. Setting them too high might interfere with Windows System processes.


One thing I do want to use it for is to start capturing what the various datapads say.  There's really nothing showing screenshots of the various datapads in the game.  I'm still reminded of finding the Mr. B datapads

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 13 novembre 2012 - 08:09 .


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Interesting, Admiral Hackett had a line in the game intro of ME1

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Interesting, Admiral Hackett had a line in the game intro of ME1


Had you not played ME1 before? Hackett is all over that game.

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http://social.biowar...ndex/13817665/2
Everyone seen Chris' answer on this? (scroll to middle)

Modifié par Trollgunner, 13 novembre 2012 - 08:55 .


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byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Interesting, Admiral Hackett had a line in the game intro of ME1


Had you not played ME1 before? Hackett is all over that game.

But we actually don't get to see his face. Only his voice can be heard which might be fake. Posted Image

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Trollgunner wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/13817665/2
Everyone seen Chris' answer on this? (scroll to middle)


What's with "endings" always being in quotation marks? Posted Image

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

I was looking up Harbinger and noticed he has some sort of obsession with gathering Shepard. with all the talk of the beam shooting, I think now that Harbinger is purposefully intending to miss Shepard and use his beam to knock Shepard around and like everyone was talking earlier, induce a dream state.
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I'd go as far as to saying that, in the EC version, the advancing beam looks about to pass slightly to Shepard's left, which might be a good idea, if Harbinger doesn't want to splash molten metal all over his prize -- crucible indeed (or "steel bath" as we might say where I live, for a trial - probably a shared origin there somewhere)... :P
The explosion and transition also comes a good few milliseconds before it comes to a warm handshake.

(In the original, the beam does come straight at you, but very slowly - carefully, one might say.)

Then again; If hallucination begins at time of vehicle crash, before running Harby's gauntlet, I suppose the beam is hallucination too... Maybe if one figured it a two-stage thing... Car crash: Groggy Shepard, half susceptible, on to Explosion caused by beam: Out cold and ripe for picking. :P

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Trollgunner wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/13817665/2
Everyone seen Chris' answer on this? (scroll to middle)


What's with "endings" always being in quotation marks? Posted Image


It's either just cuz, or it's a "Ah yes, 'Reapers'," reference thing.

Not unlike a meme.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 13 novembre 2012 - 09:25 .


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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Trollgunner wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/13817665/2
Everyone seen Chris' answer on this? (scroll to middle)


What's with "endings" always being in quotation marks? Posted Image


It's either just cuz, or it's a "Ah yes, 'Reapers'," reference thing.

Not unlike a meme.


"Ah yes, Mass Effect 3 currently has an ending. We have dismissed that claim." Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 13 novembre 2012 - 09:46 .


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Whatever happened to the most awesome of methods for dealing with rumors, a la Adama:
"We don't comment on rumors."

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BleedingUranium wrote...

"Ah yes, Mass Effect 3 currently has an ending. We have dismissed that claim." Posted Image

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie] Puns!

Modifié par Gwyphon, 13 novembre 2012 - 10:11 .


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Is it just me or will BSN not let me smile?
Edit: meant to edit the above post... Sorry.

Modifié par Gwyphon, 13 novembre 2012 - 10:28 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

Whatever happened to the most awesome of methods for dealing with rumors, a la Adama:
"We don't comment on rumors."

IIRC, these rumors turned out to be correct...

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Gwyphon wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

"Ah yes, Mass Effect 3 currently has an ending. We have dismissed that claim." Posted Image

Posted Image Puns!

+100

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While it could end up being true, I'd point out that it's Evil Chris. I think he certainly enjoys trolling someyet he seems like a good guy overall. But it's his job to deny pretty much everything. And he does. The community managers are the must blatantly unreliable sources of information regarding future content. It's not even their job to release that kind of information, and it's likely they are in the dark about certain things. I think if it was a done deal and the company wanted that to be the official stance, Mike Gamble, who has responded to most of my questions on twitter, wouldn't act like that question doesn't exist. That means one of two things to me. Either he isn't going to reveal anything that way, or they remain undecided. If they don't have anything planned it's going to take some very honest communicating from Bioware's leadership for me to consider continuing as a consumer of their products. It's definitely frustrating at times, but until proven otherwise, I'm not losing faith in them. There's a lot of good people over there and the product the Mass Effect team has put out has been so incredibly high that it's held to a different standard than almost everything else. I may end up hating myself and Bioware , but I think I'm pretty much here to the end. More than getting to experience an awesome finale to Shepard's story, more than vindication for what we've done with IT, I really want Bioware to make this series legendary, and justify everything that Mass Effect stands for in this industry.

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 13 novembre 2012 - 10:36 .


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Breathe, Shepard.

IT or not, the story isn't over yet.

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Okay so I spend some time thinking of the endings this morning and I found yet another hole in Catalyst logic and programming.

The mere fact that Catalyst allows Shepard to perform Destroy is from a litteral standpoint against the programming he claims to have. His solution and by extension the programming he claims to have is to preserve all "Organic and Synthetic life." Yet if he allows Shepard to pick Destroy then Shepard will be killing every single Reaper and by extension the races Catalyst is supposed to preserve. Furthermore he says that the nightmare will come again so it is not even a solution to the Organic vs Synthetics war he claims happens.

Had this been pre EC this could be dismissed as the Catalyst not beeing able to stop Shepard in any way, but as of EC we know the Catalyst can shutdown the Crucible connection at will so it is well within his power to prevent Shepard from picking Destroy.

In short one more point as to why that scene is complete nonsense.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 13 novembre 2012 - 11:21 .


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I am now King of Albion!

...and waiting for Omega. Sigh.

At least Storm Legion launches today... but today is also full of homework/group projects... yay...

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SwobyJ wrote...

I am now King of Albion!

...and waiting for Omega. Sigh.

At least Storm Legion launches today... but today is also full of homework/group projects... yay...

Omega will be great!

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Is IT still alive?! Thank God! Hi everyone, I still love y'all. Just been very busy with uni and drinking a copious amount. How's it all going?

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@CmdrShep80 What app do you use to record gameplay? I tried fraps but the trial only allows for 30-second videos.


I was looking around too and ended up settling with fraps too. I paid for the full version $37 is really worth it where you can record as much as you want. It beats the $200 fancy recorders that use multiple PCs lol. I made several test recordings of ME3 and for the most part it works well. Though the part that lags the most is when I go through a mass effect relay. Not sure if moving fraps to a lower frame rate or a higher frame rate is better but I notice if I give fraps an unlimited frame rate (the 9999) it tends to lag less.

I think the thing now I'm trying to figure out is how long can I record before fraps fries itself or my harddrive runs out of space. The files are huge lol EDIT - though using the windows movie maker drops the file size to something reasonable. The largest movie I did was about 6 minutes cause I wanted to play around with the effects and the trim/cut tools to cut out certain things. Ended up being 618 mb instead of what was 47.6 gb for a 16 min raw vid


High quality video capture takes some serious hardware. My system is a Phenom 9950 (quad core AMD 2.6GHz) with an overclocked GF GTX 560 Ti and 3 separate HDDs. I've yet to manage a 1080 recording of ME2 or ME3 without visual slowdown or out of sync audio. I'm sure it's possible but it requires more tweaking and such than I was willing to do. I hear a lot of people manage it by running the game at half speed and then making the video run at 2X speed when they reencode it. As you see, reencoding is necessary because of the video size. Encoded video takes way too much processing power to do on the fly, but unencoded video takes up absurd amounts of space. So you have to record in unencoded and then encode it afterwards. This also adds another point to the difficulty: the size of unencoded video is so huge that a lot of hard drives can't keep up with the write speed demand. For this reason, it's best to be recording onto a different hard drive than the one you're playing the game and running Windows from. Green hard drives aren't too great for it in any case since they're optimized to minimize power consumption rather than maximize performance.

byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Interesting, Admiral Hackett had a line in the game intro of ME1


Had you not played ME1 before? Hackett is all over that game.


Except his nastyass scarred up face of course.

spotlessvoid wrote...

While it could end up being true, I'd point out that it's Evil Chris. I think he certainly enjoys trolling someyet he seems like a good guy overall. But it's his job to deny pretty much everything. And he does. The community managers are the must blatantly unreliable sources of information regarding future content. It's not even their job to release that kind of information, and it's likely they are in the dark about certain things. I think if it was a done deal and the company wanted that to be the official stance, Mike Gamble, who has responded to most of my questions on twitter, wouldn't act like that question doesn't exist. That means one of two things to me. Either he isn't going to reveal anything that way, or they remain undecided. If they don't have anything planned it's going to take some very honest communicating from Bioware's leadership for me to consider continuing as a consumer of their products. It's definitely frustrating at times, but until proven otherwise, I'm not losing faith in them. There's a lot of good people over there and the product the Mass Effect team has put out has been so incredibly high that it's held to a different standard than almost everything else. I may end up hating myself and Bioware , but I think I'm pretty much here to the end. More than getting to experience an awesome finale to Shepard's story, more than vindication for what we've done with IT, I really want Bioware to make this series legendary, and justify everything that Mass Effect stands for in this industry.


This. If you're taking a community manager at their word in regards to future content, you haven't been paying attention to the past year.