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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Rifneno

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demersel wrote...

Hello, everyone! What's new?


I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance!

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/facepalm

Just finished Rannoch. Two facepalms, actually - I picked the 'investigate' dialogue option with the Reaper and ended the conversation without being able to do the renegade interupt. Darn.

But yeah. The main facepalm is from the Asari Counciller. Calling the QEC an 'unsecured channel'. Seriously. Does she not understand what the QEC is?

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Andromidius wrote...

/facepalm

Just finished Rannoch. Two facepalms, actually - I picked the 'investigate' dialogue option with the Reaper and ended the conversation without being able to do the renegade interupt. Darn.

But yeah. The main facepalm is from the Asari Counciller. Calling the QEC an 'unsecured channel'. Seriously. Does she not understand what the QEC is?


The Rannoch Reaper is kind of foreshadowing.  You pick either renegade or paragon option, Shepard comes out on top of the verbal battle.  You go neutral and entertain the Reaper's bull****, the verbal exchange goes badly for Shepard.  Like the ending.  Don't listen to their crap, just SHEPARD SMASH them.

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Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

/facepalm

Just finished Rannoch. Two facepalms, actually - I picked the 'investigate' dialogue option with the Reaper and ended the conversation without being able to do the renegade interupt. Darn.

But yeah. The main facepalm is from the Asari Counciller. Calling the QEC an 'unsecured channel'. Seriously. Does she not understand what the QEC is?


The Rannoch Reaper is kind of foreshadowing.  You pick either renegade or paragon option, Shepard comes out on top of the verbal battle.  You go neutral and entertain the Reaper's bull****, the verbal exchange goes badly for Shepard.  Like the ending.  Don't listen to their crap, just SHEPARD SMASH them.


Yep.  Not to mention Shep's dialogue is class.  And who else interupts a villian's evil monologue with a salvo from a fleet in orbit?

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Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

Hello, everyone! What's new?


I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance!


Cool. I just finished filming a commercial for some kickstarter project (portable alcohol tester)

But what is new about ME3 and indoctrination theory? 

Modifié par demersel, 13 novembre 2012 - 05:38 .


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Andromidius wrote...

/facepalm

But yeah. The main facepalm is from the Asari Counciller. Calling the QEC an 'unsecured channel'. Seriously. Does she not understand what the QEC is?


Come on, you are talking about politicians, everything is possible.

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You know the god child say he preserves Organics, and Synthetics, but really does he?

Yes we already know he is speaking BS, but if you look at all the Reapers we killed, then he has done a ****** poor of a job. Nazar died.
The deralitc Reaper, The Tuchanka Reaper,The Destroyer Reaper on Talis home world, the hades canon Reaper,and the Destroy Reaper we kill before we go to the Conduit beam charge.

Ya The brat is like : I will protect the preserved life, but I will use them for the Harvest other cycles. Oh s*** a hundred Reapers have died during this cycle ( The councile cycle) oh well I tried to preserve them, but it's not my fault that I gave them the order to die.

Oh and if you notice when a Reaper dies they don't give a crap ( The Reapers I mean) when one of them dies. It's like the brat doesn't give a rat's butox if his Reapers die. The brat just want's Shepard, and if the brat can't have Shepard, then nobody can hence Destroy.


Destroy means the Reapers well Harbinger kill Shepard. Yet if your EMS is high/ Galatic readiness your Shepard lives. It's unknow right now but in time it will be revealed.

Refuse is The Reapers refuse Shepard because they broke him or her. In other words Harbinger: L screw you Shepard. I gave you a chance to become my slave, or be killed mercafully, but you shot a me, and refused me, well I reject you. And refuse yo help you.


Actually it makes sense.

Harbinger refuses Shepard/ rejects him, or her

Harbinger Destroys Shepard, yet some how lives

Harbinger Controls Shepard, but Shepard isn't aware he, or she is being Controld.

Harbinger Synthesis Shepard to make an example of all how oppouse the Reapers will become their slave/ b****.

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Andromidius wrote...

/facepalm

Just finished Rannoch. Two facepalms, actually - I picked the 'investigate' dialogue option with the Reaper and ended the conversation without being able to do the renegade interupt. Darn.

But yeah. The main facepalm is from the Asari Counciller. Calling the QEC an 'unsecured channel'. Seriously. Does she not understand what the QEC is?

QEC is by definition secure. Only the 2 extangled particles "know" the state of each other.

Modifié par paxxton, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:13 .


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paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

/facepalm

Just finished Rannoch. Two facepalms, actually - I picked the 'investigate' dialogue option with the Reaper and ended the conversation without being able to do the renegade interupt. Darn.

But yeah. The main facepalm is from the Asari Counciller. Calling the QEC an 'unsecured channel'. Seriously. Does she not understand what the QEC is?

QEC is by definition secure. Only the 2 extangled particles "know" the state of each other.

But didn't you know - a balcony is the savest place for communication :D

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Tevos just wants to enjoy the.... view.

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You know TIM's saving the Reapers to help humanity, is similar to saving EDi, and the geth.

What if ever important person with a strong mind had to choose between their races, their life, or the friends/ loved ones?

Think about it, let's say there Indoctrination wasn't the one like Shepard's, but similar. Yes not with the Crucible, but choice wise.

TIM could Destroy humanity in Destroy, and the Reaper will die.

In Control TIM could Control the Reapers to help humanity.

In Synthesis TIM could Synthesis humanity, and everyone is equall.

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hukbum wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

/facepalm

Just finished Rannoch. Two facepalms, actually - I picked the 'investigate' dialogue option with the Reaper and ended the conversation without being able to do the renegade interupt. Darn.

But yeah. The main facepalm is from the Asari Counciller. Calling the QEC an 'unsecured channel'. Seriously. Does she not understand what the QEC is?

QEC is by definition secure. Only the 2 extangled particles "know" the state of each other.

But didn't you know - a balcony is the savest place for communication :D

Did she mention that in the comm after Rannoch? "Commander Shepard! This is Councilor Tevos. I am contacting you from the great balcony in the late Udina's office. The view is lovely."

Modifié par paxxton, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:35 .


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Smudboy's video is garbage. Opinionated nitpicking bull****. And why should I care what the people who started at ME3 think? When else has it ever been smart to start at the end of a trilogy? Smudboy is a jealous little twerp. His failure to understand why the Reapers are causing chaos, his suggestion the Reapers should just nuke the planet, and his complaint that they shouldn't be killing millions of humans they want to harvest when there are billions upon billions of humans on earth is so retarded I couldn't even finish the video. What an ass

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You know, I just had a thought. Assuming the Star-Brat IS correct (I know, it's hard, bear with me), then I would STILL choose Destroy since I REALLY want the Reapers dead, and it would solve the Organic/Synthetic "problem." Not that I think it really exists, or that I think the ending is real, but still, just trying to find a way to accept the endings if it comes to that.

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You know, I just had a thought. Assuming the Star-Brat IS correct (I know, it's hard, bear with me), then I would STILL choose Destroy since I REALLY want the Reapers dead, and it would solve the Organic/Synthetic "problem." Not that I think it really exists, or that I think the ending is real, but still, just trying to find a way to accept the endings if it comes to that.

Then you should take off and destroy your glasses cause they are Reaper tech (they would be considered that in a version of Mass Effect released a 1000 years ago). Do you get it? Destroying the Reapers is not the best way cause you are rejecting the objective benefits of utilizing the technology and knowledge they've accumulated.

You are dooming the heritage of those civilizations that came before.

Modifié par paxxton, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:58 .


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Dwailing wrote...

You know, I just had a thought. Assuming the Star-Brat IS correct (I know, it's hard, bear with me), then I would STILL choose Destroy since I REALLY want the Reapers dead, and it would solve the Organic/Synthetic "problem." Not that I think it really exists, or that I think the ending is real, but still, just trying to find a way to accept the endings if it comes to that.

Then you should take off and destroy your glasses cause they are Reaper tech (they would be considered that in a version of Mass Effect released a 1000 years ago). Do you get it? Destroying the Reapers is not the best way cause you are rejecting the objective benefits of utilizing the technology and knowledge they've accumulated.

You are dooming the heritage of those civilizations that came before.


The only heritage left to gather from the Reapers is Reaper tech...and that has a severily nasty habit of screwing withe mind of anyone close.

So no thanks, I prefer to create my own path through the universe, preferably through alot of molten Reaper debris ^_^

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

You know, I just had a thought. Assuming the Star-Brat IS correct (I know, it's hard, bear with me), then I would STILL choose Destroy since I REALLY want the Reapers dead, and it would solve the Organic/Synthetic "problem." Not that I think it really exists, or that I think the ending is real, but still, just trying to find a way to accept the endings if it comes to that.

Then you should take off and destroy your glasses cause they are Reaper tech (they would be considered that in a version of Mass Effect released a 1000 years ago). Do you get it? Destroying the Reapers is not the best way cause you are rejecting the objective benefits of utilizing the technology and knowledge they've accumulated.

You are dooming the heritage of those civilizations that came before.


The only heritage left to gather from the Reapers is Reaper tech...and that has a severily nasty habit of screwing withe mind of anyone close.

So no thanks, I prefer to create my own path through the universe, preferably through alot of molten Reaper debris ^_^

But creating your own path is in essence that you are in control of the decision-making process. It's not taken from you when YOU decide to take the tech instead of burning it all.

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Besides you can then reverse engineer the tech. Or just extract the knowledge and leave the hardware where it falls. Image IPB

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

You know, I just had a thought. Assuming the Star-Brat IS correct (I know, it's hard, bear with me), then I would STILL choose Destroy since I REALLY want the Reapers dead, and it would solve the Organic/Synthetic "problem." Not that I think it really exists, or that I think the ending is real, but still, just trying to find a way to accept the endings if it comes to that.

Then you should take off and destroy your glasses cause they are Reaper tech (they would be considered that in a version of Mass Effect released a 1000 years ago). Do you get it? Destroying the Reapers is not the best way cause you are rejecting the objective benefits of utilizing the technology and knowledge they've accumulated.

You are dooming the heritage of those civilizations that came before.


The only heritage left to gather from the Reapers is Reaper tech...and that has a severily nasty habit of screwing withe mind of anyone close.

So no thanks, I prefer to create my own path through the universe, preferably through alot of molten Reaper debris ^_^


yeah this is why i couldn't get behind control. in theory it sounds good, but everyone else who has tried to mess with reaper tech ended up looking like this guy:

Image IPB

so...i think i'll pass. 

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Guys, there's a question I wanted to ask you all. I am most certain that most of you probably stated what I'm going to ask a couple of times at some point throughout all three threads. But as far as I am concerned, there was no moment yet where all of these answers / ideas were in one place.
So the question is:

Q: If IT DLC is to be true, how do you see Bioware managing the transfer between original gameplay and the post endings content? 

I have my own ideas, but I am quite curious whats spining around your heads. So? :)

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Vibez wrote...

Guys, there's a question I wanted to ask you all. I am most certain that most of you probably stated what I'm going to ask a couple of times at some point throughout all three threads. But as far as I am concerned, there was no moment yet where all of these answers / ideas were in one place.
So the question is:

Q: If IT DLC is to be true, how do you see Bioware managing the transfer between original gameplay and the post endings content? 

I have my own ideas, but I am quite curious whats spining around your heads. So? :)


Do you mean, how will they pull off having Shepard wake up from indoctrination and then showing us post-waking up content? Or how they will appease the people who prefer the literal ending and thought there wouldn't be any expansion to the ending?

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Vibez wrote...

Guys, there's a question I wanted to ask you all. I am most certain that most of you probably stated what I'm going to ask a couple of times at some point throughout all three threads. But as far as I am concerned, there was no moment yet where all of these answers / ideas were in one place.
So the question is:

Q: If IT DLC is to be true, how do you see Bioware managing the transfer between original gameplay and the post endings content? 

I have my own ideas, but I am quite curious whats spining around your heads. So? :)

I don't understand the question. lol If it says what I think it says, the gameplay won't change at all. You'll just continue the game from where the original ends.

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Control isn't even like using information used by **** scientists gained from torturing people to death. Its like asking the same Scientists to then use that information on you, and hoping they don't pluck your eyesballs out in the process.

Its putting trust in a collective of beings that are by their very nature deceitful and dishonest.

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Andromidius wrote...

Control isn't even like using information used by **** scientists gained from torturing people to death. Its like asking the same Scientists to then use that information on you, and hoping they don't pluck your eyesballs out in the process.

Its putting trust in a collective of beings that are by their very nature deceitful and dishonest.

That's definitely not how proper science is done today. Image IPB

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I was talking on twitter about the indoc theory and the dark energy ending and it got me thinking.
In my personal opinion [because i love the sound of the dark energy ending and wish they had used that one instead], if they are making this DLC, they should do both the indoc and the dark energy ending.. whereas Shepard wakes up from indoc and gets the real ending, which is the dark energy. Very rough idea.