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[401 Kill]

magnetite wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@magnetite- are you referring to the nuclear symbol and the little symbol that looks like its radiating something in the pic?

No, the yellow one to the left of it. There's a whack ton of them during the Leviathan DLC.

Funny, Shepard just happened to have his mind temporarily enthralled by Leviathan, in a scene that was eerily similar to the desicion chamber. What a coincidence.(I am being sarcastic on my last sentance).

[CmdrShep80]

401 Kill wrote...

magnetite wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@magnetite- are you referring to the nuclear symbol and the little symbol that looks like its radiating something in the pic?

No, the yellow one to the left of it. There's a whack ton of them during the Leviathan DLC.

Funny, Shepard just happened to have his mind temporarily enthralled by Leviathan, in a scene that was eerily similar to the desicion chamber. What a coincidence.(I am being sarcastic on my last sentance).

A weird question, so if the little symbol you're referring to means something akin to indoctrination, why is it all over the place on the Normandy?

[401 Kill]

Good question.

"Do you hear that hum?"
We know that the reapers want to indoctrinate Shepard, and we know that Shepard is showing symptoms of Reaper influence. Indoctrinated people "broadcast/enhance Reaper signals", so the Normandy itself can be a hub of indoctrination (Remember, Cerberus built it), but only if Shepard becomes indoctrinated.

[ZerebusPrime]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

magnetite wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@magnetite- are you referring to the nuclear symbol and the little symbol that looks like its radiating something in the pic?

No, the yellow one to the left of it. There's a whack ton of them during the Leviathan DLC.

Funny, Shepard just happened to have his mind temporarily enthralled by Leviathan, in a scene that was eerily similar to the desicion chamber. What a coincidence.(I am being sarcastic on my last sentance).

A weird question, so if the little symbol you're referring to means something akin to indoctrination, why is it all over the place on the Normandy?

This is part of why some people think that the Normandy has low level indoctrination devices built into it.  The idea is that initially, they served to make the ME2 crew loyal to Shepard much as Sovereign made its crew loyal to Saren (IIRC there was also a note where TIM ordered a supply of red sand after talking about Normandy recruitment, implying that he may have slipped small amounts of the stuff into the food supply via Rupert to make the crew more susceptible to Indoctrination).  By the time ME3 roles around, though, the devices are doing more harm than good.

Granted, this is a fringe theory.  There's no hard evidence to point to and even the supposition is a stretch.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Darth Revan:

Perfect

Now let us hope that if the Catalyst is Aizen that Mass Effect version of Urahara soon shows up

I created it. It's titled "All According To Plan": Catalyst is like Aizen

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 14 novembre 2012 - 04:18 .

[masster blaster]

Okay guys now I am pissed off again. In game way storyline. I was just replaying ME2, and I over heard the chat the guy in the crewbedroom is, and his wife, and chikd are save, and now are in San Frisico. I literaly just droped my head down. And said

" Dam you Reapers to hell." Knowing that Vegas uncle is somewhere on Earth is scary because he could be alive, dead, harvested, or a husk. That Baileys family as well.

This is the reason why I choose Destroy. This is for all the cycles that we harvested, for all the innocent children the brat killed/harvested, and it was for the fallen that gave their lifes so that Shepard could do everything to stop the Reapers.

I was so proud of all the people I helped died heriocly.

Regger,Toombs,the Omega kid, the Earth's embassitor's son, Charr,all of them. I know it's not really literaly blaster, but to me once Shepard wakes up I hope Shepard say to Harbinger.

" You feel that Harbinger...that's what death feels like. That's for killing Anderson, my friends, my troops, and every past cycle you harvest you son of a *****.

[masster blaster]

Prime I think that bottle of red sand was for Grayson. It's actually about the right time Grayson get's red sand in his body, which leads him to get Indoctrinated.

[DoomsdayDevice]

magnetite wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@magnetite- are you referring to the nuclear symbol and the little symbol that looks like its radiating something in the pic?

No, the mostly yellow one to the left of it. There's a whack ton of them during the Leviathan DLC.

Especially this one.



As for the 'indoctrination sign', I think it was BansheeOwnage who looked up the code on the sign, and found something mentioned about infrasound.

It should be reposted, I completely forgot about it.

BANSHEE?

(was it even Banshee who posted that?)

[Hanako Ikezawa]

@DoomsdayDevice
Do you have any lines that talk about "We have been watching you" or anything involving "As we have planned"? I want them for a thread of mine.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 14 novembre 2012 - 04:39 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Hey everyone, remember how I said I would repost my how the crucible works? Well here it is reposted as I originally posted it:


(...)

The point of the catalyst in ME 3 in my opinion is to allow the crucible to fire at the Reapers wherever they are without being affected by the Crucible's energies or the Citadel's energies. While we still don't know what the Catalyst is we can infer the purpose of the Crucible and Citadel interactions. In other words it uses the Citadel to create a stable mass relay between the Citadel and the front of a Reaper (remember the citadel’s job is the manage the mass relays not the Reapers themselves). It can do this thanks to the ease of targeting explained below. Once it has found its target, a Javalin is magnetically charged, sent down the barrel with zero resistance, enters the citadel’s mass relay exits in front of a Reaper, flies with still zero resistance slams into the kinetic barrier, causing the Javelin to send an electrical pulse through the impure eezo/dark matter substance at the same time as sending a dark energy blast through the Reaper’s barrier, collapsing it. The ensuing explosion happens shortly after what’s left of the exploding Javelin Reaches or enters the Reaper’s hull This video is a crude example but it works. Think of everything I just said above to do exactly this:
Final Fantasy 7 Mako Cannon – The Reaper is the Weapon very far away. The targeting scanners for the gun is like the targeting I explained above, the kinetic barrier is like the barrier on the North Crater, the mako reactors is helium 4 being used to shoot, the shot itself is fired like a rail gun/mass driver, the explosion is the eezo/dark matter exploding, the disrupting barrier is via the dark energy and killing/damaging the Reaper at the same time.

Holy crap.

You've onbviously put a lot of thought into this, but  it sounds kind of outlandish to me.

If this actually turns out to be true, you will win cookies. A lot of them.

[DoomsdayDevice]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

@DoomsdayDevice
Do you have any lines that talk about "We have been watching you" or anything involving "As we have planned"? I want them for a thread of mine.

Not that I'm aware, no. Sovereign or Harbinger might have said some stuff along those lines though.

Check this one out, at least.

Harbinger quotes

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 14 novembre 2012 - 04:50 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

There's a few that fit the bill since I forgot to mention anything involving Shepard's usefullness, so thanks.

Also, did anyone else think of the weapon that defeated the Derelict Reaper whilw watching the Mako Cannon?

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 14 novembre 2012 - 04:50 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

There's a few that fit the bill since I forgot to mention anything involving Shepard's usefullness, so thanks.
Also, did anyone else think of the weapon that defeated the Derelict Reaper whilw watching the Mako Cannon?

Found this on the Sovereign Wiki page:

Nazara means 'The one who sees/observes' in old Turkish, possibly alluding to Sovereign's role as a monitor of organic civilization.

Not what you're looking for, but still cool/related.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

There's a few that fit the bill since I forgot to mention anything involving Shepard's usefullness, so thanks.
Also, did anyone else think of the weapon that defeated the Derelict Reaper whilw watching the Mako Cannon?

Found this on the Sovereign Wiki page:

Nazara means 'The one who sees/observes' in old Turkish, possibly alluding to Sovereign's role as a monitor of organic civilization.

Not what you're looking for, but still cool/related.

That is really interesting and actually quite fitting for what I'm trying to do. If you're curious, the thread I'm talking about is: "All According To Plan": Catalyst Is Like Aizen.

[DoomsdayDevice]

magnetite wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

(was it even Banshee who posted that?)

Might have been me

Although the T78 listed on that sign I posted is listed as "adverse effects not otherwise classified", I'm sure medical books of 2186 didn't cover Reaper indoctrination. Just a guess. Can't see it very well, because I have the film grain turned on.

Under T75 it lists "vertigo from infrasound".

Yeah, that's what I remember. Didn't we have another sign that said T75? In Rio or something? Or am I just imagining things?

[DoomsdayDevice]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

There's a few that fit the bill since I forgot to mention anything involving Shepard's usefullness, so thanks.
Also, did anyone else think of the weapon that defeated the Derelict Reaper whilw watching the Mako Cannon?

Found this on the Sovereign Wiki page:

Nazara means 'The one who sees/observes' in old Turkish, possibly alluding to Sovereign's role as a monitor of organic civilization.

Not what you're looking for, but still cool/related.

That is really interesting and actually quite fitting for what I'm trying to do. If you're curious, the thread I'm talking about is: "All According To Plan": Catalyst Is Like Aizen.

I'm not familiar with Aizen, but he sounds like Emperor Palpatine to me, in terms of things proceeding as he has foreseen.

Also, you may turn into an IT-er yet!

[Arashi08]

Davik Kang wrote...

Restrider wrote...
I don't know who it was, maybe Davik Kang...?
Regardless, someone stated that the DE plot should've had the same role as the organics vs. synthetics plot. It should've been a reason for the Reapers/Starbinger to convince Shepard that jumping into a Synthesis beam is a good idea.
Afaik, the plot was something like that your choices are either Destroy and try to figure out to save the universe yourself or turn humanity into a Reaper to end the DE thread. Sounds indoctrinated for me.
Nevertheless, both, the DE and organic vs synthetic plot had their little bits of foreshadowing where I have to say that the latter makes more sense, in my opinion

I agree w/ Riferno. the Dark Energy plot sucks serious balls.

Easy way to know if I suggested something like this is to remember that I frickin' love the ending.  I probably like it even more than DD or Bill Casey.  So the chance of me ever suggesting the BW should have done this or that in the ending is extremely low.

I used to wonder how anyone could like the endings, but now that I've thought about it more and gotten more into writing my own story, it's caused me to think about thematic messages in stories and how they affect readers/gamers/viewers etc .  I just don't think they did it in a way that was satisfactory or if my interpretation is even close to their original intention, but it could mean that if it IS what they intended, then IT could flesh it out even more, otherwise, I think they might have failed to accomplish what they were trying to do, namely because of the backlash the endings have recieved.

While I think the message they were trying to convey is really intriguing from a storytelling perspective, I think they should have given the players more context as to the consequences of their decisions in the ME universe.  Maybe it's implementation was poor since it seemed to cause most players to scratch their heads in confusion or rage.  At the very least they could have made it less ambiguous, or made other aspects of the story ambiguous. 

That's just my thought on it at any rate...

Modifié par Arashi08, 14 novembre 2012 - 05:02 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...
I'm not familiar with Aizen, but he sounds like Emperor Palpatine to me, in terms of things proceeding as he has foreseen.

Also, you may turn into an IT-er yet!

Basically, though Aizen makes Palpatine look like he was winging it. There's a Demotivational Poster that states "Planning Ahead: If it's not done by Aizen, you're doing it wrong" but I can't find it.

As for the latter bit, who knows now that I have looked through the proverbial looking glass by doing an IT playthrough and now am able to grasp the concept a lot more.

[CmdrShep80]

@Doomsday - ya I did. I took each crucible war asset and if it wasn't readily explainable, I would go off and search for a scientific explanation of how it could happen. After I had all the pieces, I had to do a little assumptions based on what we know about eezo, reaper kinetic barriers, a mass cannon (or to put it in ME game terms a "Mass Effect" cannon and use the puzzle pieces to determine how we go from load to destroy reapers in a conventional war sense that's not so based in space magic but based on a possible real life circumstance (provided we have what they have).

Though if they honestly do this (or somehow take the idea because I posted it twice now LOL, I'll take the cookies and maybe a line in the credits for coming up with a close to plausible way to make the cidadel and crucible work together

Though strangely enough, I don't think anyone associated the crucible to the title of the game. Though, I'm probably over thinking wanting to play ME1 now but I thought of a connection between the game title and the purpose of the crucible. A "mass effect cannon."

Medical definition:
mass effect
Neurology The result of increased intracranial pressure of any cause–brain tumor, blockage of CSF (cerebral spinal fluid) egress or accumulation of CSF in cranial cavity–which, in the nondistensible cranial cavity, acts like a mass

A heat treatment of metals definition:

Mass Effect
Definition: A term used to signify the effect of size and shape during heat treatment, since it is the rate of cooling of a piece of steel which determines the properties resulting from the hardening and quenching process

[masster blaster]

TIM:They are just trying to Control US. Think about it. If they wanted all organic life Destroyed, they could do it...

TIM: I know them Shepard. I know how they think."

Shepard: The Reapers have it right. Your Indoctrinated.Your doing just what they want.

TIM: "And I can say the same to you. Wasting your time, on a war that can not be won."

Shepard " At LEAST I am fighting."

TIM: Never question my ability to fight. I've been fighting the Reapers longer than you can imagine."

TIM: Shepard there are choices coming that you're not equipped to make."

major foreshadowing, and Equipped to make, but what does he mean equipped to make?

Shepard says:At least I'll be making them as a human being, your just some Reaper puppet."

TIM:You wouldn't listen to me"

TIM: Are YOU going to Control the Reapers."
That's right.He tells Shepard are you going to Control the Reapers.

TIM: I am the Pinnacle of our species

Harbinger "we are the principle of Evolution."

Shepard: " You start being selfish, dreaming about power, and we will all pay the price." That was to TIM at the end of ME2

Saren:" .....We Organics are driven by emotion instead of logic, and we will fight even though we can not win, but if we work with the Reapers. Make our self useful. Think how many lives can be spared.

Shepard:You are afraid Sovereign is Controlling you. You are afraid he is Controlling your thoughts.

Saren:" I've studied the affect of Indoctrination. The more Control Sovereign exerts, The less capable the subject becomes......Sovereign needs me to find the Conduit. my mind is still my own for now.The transformation between ally to servant can be unsettling. I will not let that happen to me"

Shepard:Sovereign is manipulating you, and you don"t even now it.

Saren: " NO Sovereign needs me. If I find the Conduit I HAVE BEEN PROMISED TO BE FREE FROM THE INEVITABLE.THIS IS MY ONLY HOPE"

Saren: " My way is the ONLY WAY any of us will survive. I am forging an alliance between us and the Reapers between ORGANICS AN MACHINES, and in doing so I WILL SAVE more LIVES than ever existed.