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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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MegumiAzusa

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BleedingUranium wrote...

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hmm remember that Leviathan was basically all about indoctrination? And you know what Aria has in her possession? The original files from Cerberus about the experiments with Grayson. Could be nothing as I guess Sanctuary is based on them, but they could be a theme of the DLC.


Could be. I think Omega, while it will have some end/IT related stuff, it will probably be the least "important" out of the three DLCs. Think of it this way:

Side mission that seems unimportant to the main story at the time, but turns out to have serious indoctrination/ending foreshadowing: Overlord/Leviathan.

Large DLC about assisting a friend with a personal goal that's not very related to the main story: Shadow Broker/Omega

Super plot important indoctrination-based game-bridging mission that will leave you very confused in the next game if you don't do it: Arrival/???

In that order.

I'm not so sure, I expect it to be a bit more complicated with Ms Flexibility.

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Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.

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The last DLC will be either The Catalyst or The End.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.


I just might have to do that! :lol:

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Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?


I always do. And I do it 3 times in a row. Booya.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.


lol hivemind

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.

She really annoyed me only in ME3 when she insinuated that Shep ran away and left people to die. Otherwise, I wasn't bothered by her assertions.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.


lol hivemind


Shared memories.... INDOCTRINATION!!!! :P

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hmm remember that Leviathan was basically all about indoctrination? And you know what Aria has in her possession? The original files from Cerberus about the experiments with Grayson. Could be nothing as I guess Sanctuary is based on them, but they could be a theme of the DLC.


Could be. I think Omega, while it will have some end/IT related stuff, it will probably be the least "important" out of the three DLCs. Think of it this way:

Side mission that seems unimportant to the main story at the time, but turns out to have serious indoctrination/ending foreshadowing: Overlord/Leviathan.

Large DLC about assisting a friend with a personal goal that's not very related to the main story: Shadow Broker/Omega

Super plot important indoctrination-based game-bridging mission that will leave you very confused in the next game if you don't do it: Arrival/???

In that order.

I'm not so sure, I expect it to be a bit more complicated with Ms Flexibility.


Well, all the DLCs for ME3 are more plot important than their ME2 counterpart. I meant that I think Omega will be very plot (read: IT) important, but less than Leviathan or DLC #3.

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Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.


lol hivemind


Shared memories.... INDOCTRINATION!!!! :P


She's more satisfying to punch than that Quarian Admiral, although that felt pretty good too.

This is the essence of why I'm Paragade. I do what makes sense to me at the time.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.


lol hivemind


Shared memories.... INDOCTRINATION!!!! :P


She's more satisfying to punch than that Quarian Admiral, although that felt pretty good too.

This is the essence of why I'm Paragade. I do what makes sense to me at the time.


I'm usually extremely Paragon, but there are definitely a few moments that I Renegade.  Like the mechanic on Garrus's recruitment mission, or the Krogan in Mordin's loyalty mission.  And punching Admiral Gerrel is something I ALWAYS do.

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Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.


lol hivemind


Shared memories.... INDOCTRINATION!!!! :P


She's more satisfying to punch than that Quarian Admiral, although that felt pretty good too.

This is the essence of why I'm Paragade. I do what makes sense to me at the time.


I'm usually extremely Paragon, but there are definitely a few moments that I Renegade.  Like the mechanic on Garrus's recruitment mission, or the Krogan in Mordin's loyalty mission.  And punching Admiral Gerrel is something I ALWAYS do.


I only wish I could just egg Tali on to do it instead, because that would be funnier. Or even Javik, calling him " primative" after.

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Sheesh I feel like the only person who's NEVER punched Kalisah...:P

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Arashi08 wrote...

Sheesh I feel like the only person who's NEVER punched Kalisah...:P

I went a whole trilogy playthrough without punching her once...

Granted, I went back and gave her a good ol' right hook in my other runs, but you know.  Couldn't resist.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 15 novembre 2012 - 04:39 .


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Arashi08 wrote...

Sheesh I feel like the only person who's NEVER punched Kalisah...:P


You have never seen God until you have punched Kalisah.

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Sheesh I feel like the only person who's NEVER punched Kalisah...:P


I did on my first playthrough, but now I don't. That's kind of like never Posted Image

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Arashi08 wrote...

Sheesh I feel like the only person who's NEVER punched Kalisah...:P


Well, the playthrough that I did of ME3 was with a save where I didn't punch her in ME1 or 2, and I completed ME3 without my punch being recorded. ;)

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Oh I forgot to mention this but did you all know they left the citadel mass transit in place after leviathan ended? You only have one destination, the Normandy

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BatmanTurian wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.


lol hivemind


Shared memories.... INDOCTRINATION!!!! :P


She's more satisfying to punch than that Quarian Admiral, although that felt pretty good too.

This is the essence of why I'm Paragade. I do what makes sense to me at the time.

Meh I don't like these classifications... I play as I see fit, and even if I sometimes punch people and shoot Batarians... I still don't manage to get over 1/4 Renegade. It's no orientation I live by, I decide what's best in the moment not to keep my Paragon bar higher. Picking one corner of the wheel to stick to it is booooring.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 15 novembre 2012 - 04:42 .


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Arashi08 wrote...

Sheesh I feel like the only person who's NEVER punched Kalisah...:P

Even the Volus punched her...

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Oh I forgot to mention this but did you all know they left the citadel mass transit in place after leviathan ended? You only have one destination, the Normandy

What?

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You know, I'm starting to wonder how much Miracle of Sound knows about what's going on. I mean, listen to Take It Back: Doesn't the chorus remind you of what we're saying you should do? Heck, doesn't the WHOLE song seem to foreshadow the ending, especially when you take IT into account? I mean, I don't know for sure what he knows, but I know that Take It Back was a collaboration with BioWare.

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Davik Kang wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

Sheesh I feel like the only person who's NEVER punched Kalisah...:P

Even the Volus punched her...


i was full paragon and even i punched her

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.


lol hivemind


Shared memories.... INDOCTRINATION!!!! :P


She's more satisfying to punch than that Quarian Admiral, although that felt pretty good too.

This is the essence of why I'm Paragade. I do what makes sense to me at the time.

Meh I don't like these classifications... I play as I see fit, and even if I sometimes punch people and shoot Batarians... I still don't manage to get over 1/4 Renegade. It's no orientation I live by, I decide what's best in the moment not to keep my Paragon bar higher. Picking one corner of the wheel to stick to it is booooring.


I just say that I'm mostly Paragon because it reflects my behavior in game.  That doesn't mean that I always stick to Paragon.  I act like I would.  That means I'm mostly Paragon.  However, I usually manage to fill my Renegade bar (At least in ME2) to at least 20%.

Edit: Top.  Sweet.

Modifié par Dwailing, 15 novembre 2012 - 04:47 .


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Dwailing wrote...

You know, I'm starting to wonder how much Miracle of Sound knows about what's going on. I mean, listen to Take It Back: Doesn't the chorus remind you of what we're saying you should do? Heck, doesn't the WHOLE song seem to foreshadow the ending, especially when you take IT into account? I mean, I don't know for sure what he knows, but I know that Take It Back was a collaboration with BioWare.


i like to think the JT machinima rap (even though i don't really like it) seems to be hinting at this all the time.