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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

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Dwailing wrote...

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

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I just punched Khalisah al-Jilani in ME2. Should I reload the save I made right before I did it?

Yes, to punch her again. Repeat at least 3 more times.


lol hivemind


Shared memories.... INDOCTRINATION!!!! :P


She's more satisfying to punch than that Quarian Admiral, although that felt pretty good too.

This is the essence of why I'm Paragade. I do what makes sense to me at the time.

Meh I don't like these classifications... I play as I see fit, and even if I sometimes punch people and shoot Batarians... I still don't manage to get over 1/4 Renegade. It's no orientation I live by, I decide what's best in the moment not to keep my Paragon bar higher. Picking one corner of the wheel to stick to it is booooring.


Agreed, and not very realistic unless you want a mary/gary sue/stu or a jerk sue/stu. Humans are usually somewhere inbetween.

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I never punched her either, but Gerrel yes. I punched his *** when he got the idea to kill me, and my squad on the ship. Hell my LI was on the mission. Oh and um doesn't that seem really close to Hackett blowing up the Cerberus base?

I mean Hackett doesn't want to blow up the base because Shepard's in there, yet Shepard says " It's okay, just take Cerberus down." Gerrel however just says " don't hold everything back."

Maybe Shepard starts to see things right after Thessia.

Because for some reason again Shepard tries to contact the Asari commandos, but no luck. They all thought Shepard was dead ironic right.

Holy crap it just hit me. That Asari you hear over the Radio " Did Shepard make it? "

My god there're all gone. Did we get anyone to them beam?

Did Shepard make it?

It all makes sense. Shepard is reliving his/her nightmer.

Shepard over heard the Asari's com, but couldn't say anything, but watched/ heard the Reapers kill them all. Now Shepard just lost everyone around him/her and he/she can't do anything about it.

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"The point of no return?" Wasn't that phrase used in ME3? Or was it another game?

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paxxton wrote...

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Oh I forgot to mention this but did you all know they left the citadel mass transit in place after leviathan ended? You only have one destination, the Normandy

What?


ya I found of while testing out my recordings. After leviathan go back to the citadel and find the rapid transport shuttle (like the one you used to get to Bryson's lab)  on the citadel and you'll find they're now clickable. It only has one destination now though. 

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I've gotten lawful good on ten years worth of alignment tests.

I get close to full paragon without meta gaming; that's just how I roll.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Oh I forgot to mention this but did you all know they left the citadel mass transit in place after leviathan ended? You only have one destination, the Normandy

What?


ya I found of while testing out my recordings. After leviathan go back to the citadel and find the rapid transport shuttle (like the one you used to get to Bryson's lab)  on the citadel and you'll find they're now clickable. It only has one destination now though. 


I got to the lab by docking with the Citadel, where's the sky car?

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"Yes, with @rick_d_knowles 's help just made self regulating little logic system that will make [redacted] far better. :D"

I'm certainly hopeful that this is a good thing for those of us hoping for DLC goodness coming soon. That [redacted] part certainly has me intrigued... Link

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Oh I forgot to mention this but did you all know they left the citadel mass transit in place after leviathan ended? You only have one destination, the Normandy

What?


ya I found of while testing out my recordings. After leviathan go back to the citadel and find the rapid transport shuttle (like the one you used to get to Bryson's lab)  on the citadel and you'll find they're now clickable. It only has one destination now though. 

Wow! That's very surprising. So it might be that the third DLC will be the Citadel. Or Omega DLC will add something to the list.

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So...I give a huge, almost scholarly post about the self-examination of one's own soul and motivations through the ME3 endings and barely get ANY feedback on that, but when I bring up Kalisah and NOT punching her I get at least five reaponses?

Gotta love the internet lol :P

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MWMike2011 wrote...

"Yes, with @rick_d_knowles 's help just made self regulating little logic system that will make [redacted] far better. :D"

I'm certainly hopeful that this is a good thing for those of us hoping for DLC goodness coming soon. That [redacted] part certainly has me intrigued... Link


I'm hoping its Harbinger taunts in MP!

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masster blaster wrote...

I never punched her either, but Gerrel yes. I punched his *** when he got the idea to kill me, and my squad on the ship. Hell my LI was on the mission. Oh and um doesn't that seem really close to Hackett blowing up the Cerberus base?

I mean Hackett doesn't want to blow up the base because Shepard's in there, yet Shepard says " It's okay, just take Cerberus down." Gerrel however just says " don't hold everything back."

Maybe Shepard starts to see things right after Thessia.

Because for some reason again Shepard tries to contact the Asari commandos, but no luck. They all thought Shepard was dead ironic right.

Holy crap it just hit me. That Asari you hear over the Radio " Did Shepard make it? "

My god there're all gone. Did we get anyone to them beam?

Did Shepard make it?

It all makes sense. Shepard is reliving his/her nightmer.

Shepard over heard the Asari's com, but couldn't say anything, but watched/ heard the Reapers kill them all. Now Shepard just lost everyone around him/her and he/she can't do anything about it.


i suppose that's why shepard hears the reatreat, perhaps it was never called, but rather shepard hoped it did. many people can change dreams in a stage of dreaming known as lucid dreaming. shepard dosn't want the soldiers to die so he "hears" the call to retreat (and by coats?). this could be a great alternative to the coats is indoctrinated theory.

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masster blaster wrote...

I never punched her either, but Gerrel yes. I punched his *** when he got the idea to kill me, and my squad on the ship. Hell my LI was on the mission. Oh and um doesn't that seem really close to Hackett blowing up the Cerberus base?

I mean Hackett doesn't want to blow up the base because Shepard's in there, yet Shepard says " It's okay, just take Cerberus down." Gerrel however just says " don't hold everything back."

Maybe Shepard starts to see things right after Thessia.

Because for some reason again Shepard tries to contact the Asari commandos, but no luck. They all thought Shepard was dead ironic right.

Holy crap it just hit me. That Asari you hear over the Radio " Did Shepard make it? "

My god there're all gone. Did we get anyone to them beam?

Did Shepard make it?

It all makes sense. Shepard is reliving his/her nightmer.

Shepard over heard the Asari's com, but couldn't say anything, but watched/ heard the Reapers kill them all. Now Shepard just lost everyone around him/her and he/she can't do anything about it.


Wow... that makes sense...  :blink:

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Arashi08 wrote...

So...I give a huge, almost scholarly post about the self-examination of one's own soul and motivations through the ME3 endings and barely get ANY feedback on that, but when I bring up Kalisah and NOT punching her I get at least five reaponses?

Gotta love the internet lol :P


I gave you feedback. I said I completely agreed  with you.

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Arashi08 wrote...

So...I give a huge, almost scholarly post about the self-examination of one's own soul and motivations through the ME3 endings and barely get ANY feedback on that, but when I bring up Kalisah and NOT punching her I get at least five reaponses?

Gotta love the internet lol :P

Haha! What post? Posted Image

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Hrothdane wrote...

I've gotten lawful good on ten years worth of alignment tests.

I get close to full paragon without meta gaming; that's just how I roll.


Ah well, takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.

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Arashi08 wrote...

So...I give a huge, almost scholarly post about the self-examination of one's own soul and motivations through the ME3 endings and barely get ANY feedback on that, but when I bring up Kalisah and NOT punching her I get at least five reaponses?

Gotta love the internet lol :P


Sorry, I did see it when you posted it originally, but I don't remember if I commented on it then. If I didn't it was because I was behind and catching up.

It's very good and I fully agree with you. In fact, it should probably be linked to on Page 1 Posted Image

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Ughhh....Sorry guys I knew I should have said "That was a joke."

/EDI

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BatmanTurian wrote...

Hrothdane wrote...

I've gotten lawful good on ten years worth of alignment tests.

I get close to full paragon without meta gaming; that's just how I roll.


Ah well, takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.


Except maybe ME3 full Renegade types Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

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One of the other devs also tweeted about finishing work on a difficult piece of "logic".

I wonder if they're planning some new gameplay mode, such as actually being able to control the Normandy itself?

Fighting reapers in space with the Normandy could make for a hell of a boss battle. And ME3 has had a conspicuous absence of vehicle sections compared to the other two games.


Playing Halo 4 reminded me exactly what we're missing for the end of ME3. Halo 4's second-to-last mission, "The Composer", ends pretty much where we're at in ME3 right now, and the last mission, "Midnight", is pretty much exactly (in gameplay, music, themes, etc) what I see happening at the true end of ME3.

Here's the part that ties into your post. End of game spoilers, obviously. So! Epic! Best part of any Halo game, in my opinion.


Thanks for the link. I've never played any Halo, but you're right, that sequence was epic.

Something like that is really missing from Mass Effect. It's a space opera, with an iconic ship, yet we never get to properly fly it to actually use it to fight in space? Unless you count gently pootling around systems, occasionally getting chased by reapers.

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Arashi08 wrote...

So...I give a huge, almost scholarly post about the self-examination of one's own soul and motivations through the ME3 endings and barely get ANY feedback on that, but when I bring up Kalisah and NOT punching her I get at least five reaponses?

Gotta love the internet lol :P

You got to obey the internets attention span, there is a reason why the term tl;dr exists. As bad as it is. At least in a forum you can't do that.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Hrothdane wrote...

I've gotten lawful good on ten years worth of alignment tests.

I get close to full paragon without meta gaming; that's just how I roll.


Ah well, takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.


Except maybe ME3 full Renegade types Posted Image


i tried to do that and failed massively:bandit:

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Maybe Shadow maybe. It makes sense. When Shepard saw his/her squad get hurt, Shepard paniced like crazy. I am not joking he/ she wanted them out of the area asap. Yet what was weird was Joker was trying to say something, but all you got was static. Then 2 seconds later bame Normandy is here.

Now let's say it's really happening, then where is Anderson. If I were Anderson I would ask Shepard " what the hell did you bring the Normandy in for?"

So I am thinking that maybe the halluctination starts right when the screen goes black, and it shows them outside.

If you think about it it turns into a nightmer for Shepard.

Squad get's hurt
Anderson dies.
TIM is right.
Shepard doesn't know what the Crucible does.

I mean come on this is a big *** final nightmer for Shepard, only this time there is no fire to BURN the kid, but Destroy.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

So...I give a huge, almost scholarly post about the self-examination of one's own soul and motivations through the ME3 endings and barely get ANY feedback on that, but when I bring up Kalisah and NOT punching her I get at least five reaponses?

Gotta love the internet lol :P

You got to obey the internets attention span, there is a reason why the term tl;dr exists. As bad as it is. At least in a forum you can't do that.

I was only kidding.  People can comment or not comment as they see fit.  Plus I can understand since the Kalisah post was smaller and easier to make jokes about lol.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Hrothdane wrote...

I've gotten lawful good on ten years worth of alignment tests.

I get close to full paragon without meta gaming; that's just how I roll.


Ah well, takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.


Except maybe ME3 full Renegade types Posted Image


Even Renegades can be heroes. I give you Jack Bauer, Kratos, Ezio, Conner, and Tommy Gavin (Rescue Me).

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

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Sheesh I feel like the only person who's NEVER punched Kalisah...:P

I went a whole trilogy playthrough without punching her once...

Granted, I went back and gave her a good ol' right hook in my other runs, but you know.  Couldn't resist.


+1 for me too. You're not alone.