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TJBartlemus wrote...

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Why do people think Empire was the best? Posted Image Genuinely curious, as it's my least favourite.


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Empire strikes back is one of my favorite of the original trilogy. The reveal of DV being Luke's father was genius. Back then it was the indoctrination theory (without the theory part) of today. I have loved Star Wars most of my life and to have Disney as head of this series is a gamble. It could go either way. Empire wasn't directed by Lucas but this is also a
company that loves to make profit in any way possible. (Sounds familiar....) Anyone else remember direct to DVD?

edit- curse auto correct...


I think the Vader reveal and well written plot, but less cool explosions everywhere was lost on me because I first saw the original trilogy when I was 5 or so, the age where you fast forward through the "boring" scenes. As a result, no matter how cool I know it is, it'll never really work for me.

For the same reason I'm glad I never saw Lord of the Rings until a couple years ago.

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Everyone died! Posted Image


Let's hope not. I think Bioware is scared of the prospect of having to carry over 3 games worth of content into ME4. A previous cycle would be horrible, no known races and a predetermined horrible outcome. Earlier In our cycle would severely limit the narrative scope and would be a big step back with powers, tech, and weapons. It's going to be really tough to do anything but a sequel relatively far in the future so they don't have to account for everyone's decisions.


Unless they do something alongside the current games, like Halo: ODST (which is one of my favourite Halos).

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Idk I'd have to see them again but Empire was probably equal with Return for me, with a new hope being my fav.  As for the new movies, when I heard they were going to "Resurrect" Vader, I decided to pass on them....


Wait...what?!?!?! Is this for real? 

maybe, maybe not, the articles I read seemed to indicate that this was just rumor,  which I certainly hope is the case.  Yet somehow it wouldn't surprise me.
At least when Darth Maul did it that was kinda cool, if a little weird and somewhat out of place.

Modifié par Arashi08, 16 novembre 2012 - 04:31 .


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Arashi08 wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Arashi08 ....

Idk I'd have to see them again but Empire was probably equal with Return for me, with a new hope being my fav.  As for the new movies, when I heard they were going to "Resurrect" Vader, I decided to pass on them....


Wait...what?!?!?! Is this for real? 

maybe, maybe not, the articles I read seemed to indicate that this was just rumor,  which I certainly hope is the case.  Yet somehow it wouldn't surprise me.
At least when Darth Maul did it that was kinda cool, if a little weird and somewhat out of place.


The reason it bothers me is because it's thematically as bad a Synthesis. The series is really the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker, his fall to the Dark Side, and how his son brings him back before he dies. So then they think it's a good idea to bring him back and make him evil again??? Posted ImagePosted Image

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SUCK JUICE FROM MOOSE

*ahem*

Sorry.

What is this blasphemy?

People are asking why Empire Strikes Back is considered the best?

1. Bad guys win
2. Iconic scene in the Wampa cave with Luke and the lightsaber
3. AT-ATs. Nuff said. EPIC battle in the snow.
4. Boba Fett
5. Lando Calrissian
6. The asteroid field!
7. Vader chokes one officer after the other
8. Yoda in his coolest 'version' of the entire saga
9. Jedi training
10. The cave scene with the vision
11. Han's carbon freeze
12. Epic duel between Vader and Luke, and the bad guy wins
13. Vader reveal
14. Did I mention Empire wins?
15. Best and most iconic soundtrack out of all the SW movies

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 16 novembre 2012 - 04:54 .


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BleedingUranium wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Arashi08 ....

Idk I'd have to see them again but Empire was probably equal with Return for me, with a new hope being my fav.  As for the new movies, when I heard they were going to "Resurrect" Vader, I decided to pass on them....


Wait...what?!?!?! Is this for real? 

maybe, maybe not, the articles I read seemed to indicate that this was just rumor,  which I certainly hope is the case.  Yet somehow it wouldn't surprise me.
At least when Darth Maul did it that was kinda cool, if a little weird and somewhat out of place.


The reason it bothers me is because it's thematically as bad a Synthesis. The series is really the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker, his fall to the Dark Side, and how his son brings him back before he dies. So then they think it's a good idea to bring him back and make him evil again??? Posted ImagePosted Image

Agreed, it seems people have forgotten how to tell a good story that really gets a viewer involved and makes them think.  Instead they will do anything that means more money and less time in production.

I want my old, good stories back dammit!!! Posted Image

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

SUCK JUICE FROM MOOSE

*ahem*

Sorry.

What is this blasphemy?

People are asking why Empire Strikes Back is considered the best?

1. Bad guys win
2. Iconic scene in the Wampa cave with Luke and the lightsaber
3. AT-ATs. Nuff said. EPIC battle in the snow.
4. Boba Fett
5. Lando Calrissian
6. The asteroid field!
7. Vader chokes one officer after the other
8. Yoda in his coolest 'version' of the entire saga
9. Jedi training
10. The cave scene with the vision
11. Han's carbon freeze
12. Epic duel between Vader and Luke, and the bad guy wins
13. Vader reveal
14. Did I mention Empire wins?
15. Best and most iconic soundtrack out of all the SW movies


That was beautiful, Doomsday. *tear* Also, the plot was much tighter and the acting was better. This is what happens when Lucas doesn't direct. And agreed, BleedingUranium -- all six movies were largely about the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. If this revival rumor turns out to be fact, it cheapens it all.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 16 novembre 2012 - 05:05 .


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So I take it everyone is on a break. Well I finally get why Shepard is Indoctrinated because he/she failed his ME test.


Starbringer: I am your new teacher for today and as your new teacher I am going to give you three chocies.

1 You can Destroy the Reapers, which you have been studing ever since ME1.

Or you can pick question 2 Control the Reapers/ take my job, but wait you die, but your mind will be in body.

Or you pick Synthesis the one thing which I have been trying to teach you for the last 5 minutes, and save everyone from failing this test.

Shepard: s*** I need some help.

Looks at the player

Shepard: Um hello I can't think for myself because my brain is actually not doing anything right now!

The player: crap I forgot to study for the test. Let's see Shepard I um.... Hey how about I refuse to take the test, and we both get a zero for failing.

Shepard: Truly the war is lost.

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

SUCK JUICE FROM MOOSE

*ahem*

Sorry.

What is this blasphemy?

People are asking why Empire Strikes Back is considered the best?

1. Bad guys win
2. Iconic scene in the Wampa cave with Luke and the lightsaber
3. AT-ATs. Nuff said. EPIC battle in the snow.
4. Boba Fett
5. Lando Calrissian
6. The asteroid field!
7. Vader chokes one officer after the other
8. Yoda in his coolest 'version' of the entire saga
9. Jedi training
10. The cave scene with the vision
11. Han's carbon freeze
12. Epic duel between Vader and Luke, and the bad guy wins
13. Vader reveal
14. Did I mention Empire wins?
15. Best and most iconic soundtrack out of all the SW movies


That was beautiful, Doomsday. *tear* Also, the plot was much tighter and the acting was better. This is what happens when Lucas doesn't direct.


Agreed. I do very much like Revenge of the Sith though (with pretty much the only exception being Grievous).

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

SUCK JUICE FROM MOOSE

*ahem*

Sorry.

What is this blasphemy?

People are asking why Empire Strikes Back is considered the best?

1. Bad guys win
2. Iconic scene in the Wampa cave with Luke and the lightsaber
3. AT-ATs. Nuff said. EPIC battle in the snow.
4. Boba Fett
5. Lando Calrissian
6. The asteroid field!
7. Vader chokes one officer after the other
8. Yoda in his coolest 'version' of the entire saga
9. Jedi training
10. The cave scene with the vision
11. Han's carbon freeze
12. Epic duel between Vader and Luke, and the bad guy wins
13. Vader reveal
14. Did I mention Empire wins?
15. Best and most iconic soundtrack out of all the SW movies


That was beautiful, Doomsday. *tear* Also, the plot was much tighter and the acting was better. This is what happens when Lucas doesn't direct.


Agreed. I do very much like Revenge of the Sith though (with pretty much the only exception being Grievous).

I enjoyed that as well most out of the prequels. The Order 66 scenes always get to me. :(

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 16 novembre 2012 - 05:08 .


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I like the clone troopers before they became stormtroopers because they could shoot, while the stormtroopers can't kill a thing on foot.
I know that after the clone Wars ended the Emprie recruted people because the Clone dna got srewed up.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

SUCK JUICE FROM MOOSE

*ahem*


TASTE THE DIP
IT'S MADE WITH COOL WHIP

Here, got another funny one for ya'.

#47237
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Big_Boss9 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

SUCK JUICE FROM MOOSE

*ahem*

Sorry.

What is this blasphemy?

People are asking why Empire Strikes Back is considered the best?

1. Bad guys win
2. Iconic scene in the Wampa cave with Luke and the lightsaber
3. AT-ATs. Nuff said. EPIC battle in the snow.
4. Boba Fett
5. Lando Calrissian
6. The asteroid field!
7. Vader chokes one officer after the other
8. Yoda in his coolest 'version' of the entire saga
9. Jedi training
10. The cave scene with the vision
11. Han's carbon freeze
12. Epic duel between Vader and Luke, and the bad guy wins
13. Vader reveal
14. Did I mention Empire wins?
15. Best and most iconic soundtrack out of all the SW movies


That was beautiful, Doomsday. *tear* Also, the plot was much tighter and the acting was better. This is what happens when Lucas doesn't direct.


Agreed. I do very much like Revenge of the Sith though (with pretty much the only exception being Grievous).

I enjoyed that as well most out of the prequels. The Order 66 scenes always get to me. :(


Agreed Posted Image

My favourite two parts of the prequels are in RotS: The opening space battle and the Anakin/Obi-Wan battle.

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Yes, Order 66 was great... came as a complete surprise to me, as I was unspoiled for that part of the story. It's so dark and sad...

Aayla! NOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

And I don't actually believe that rumour about resurrecting Vader. They're not going to invalidate the entire saga like that.

Although they recently resurrected Darth Maul in the Clone Wars animated series.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Yes, Order 66 was great... came as a complete surprise to me, as I was unspoiled for that part of the story. It's so dark and sad...

Aayla! NOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

And I don't actually believe that rumour about resurrecting Vader. They're not going to invalidate the entire saga like that.

Although they recently resurrected Darth Maul in the Clone Wars animated series.

Posted Image


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Holy crap what if EDI, and the Geth are the clone troopers for a moment. Both have Reaper tech in them, and Harbinger controls everything that has Reaper tech.

Harbinger: EDI the time as come. Exacute order 66.

EDI: It will be done Harbinger.

Edi turns around and kills Joker, and unlocks the Normandys airlocks.

The Geth start to take down the allied fleets, and the ground troops begain to kill Hammer team.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

SUCK JUICE FROM MOOSE

*ahem*


TASTE THE DIP
IT'S MADE WITH COOL WHIP

Here, got another funny one for ya'.


LOL

That video clip IS pretty bizarre.

Ever seen this one?

Slayer - HEY JOHNNY DEPP

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Holy crap what if EDI, and the Geth are the clone troopers for a moment. Both have Reaper tech in them, and Harbinger controls everything that has Reaper tech.

Harbinger: EDI the time as come. Exacute order 66.

EDI: It will be done Harbinger.

Edi turns around and kills Joker, and unlocks the Normandys airlocks.

The Geth start to take down the allied fleets, and the ground troops begain to kill Hammer team.

Then the ME1 queen orders her children to kill the Krogan, and the fall of the the battle of Earth begains.

Or Harbinger finally orders all Indoctrinated people to exacute order 66, and boom.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

SUCK JUICE FROM MOOSE

*ahem*


TASTE THE DIP
IT'S MADE WITH COOL WHIP

Here, got another funny one for ya'.


LOL

That video clip IS pretty bizarre.

Ever seen this one?

Slayer - HEY JOHNNY DEPP


wow that's great lol

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As for an on-topic funny. Well, ME3 related anyway.

I was playing a gold match (multiplayer) with Banshee and Blur, and when I wanted to fire a Cobra to kill a few bosses at a critical moment, I forgot to switch back to my Cerberus Harrier and when I held the trigger, I ended up firing all six of my cobra rockets in quick succession. First thing I said was (and I didn't even do it intentionally) : "God, they're all gone..."

Many lols were had by all.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 16 novembre 2012 - 05:31 .


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So I guess everyone is not here oh well I guess I will go read an other thread, and go to bed after words so see ya.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

As for an on-topic funny. Well, ME3 related anyway.

I was playing a gold match (multiplayer) with Banshee and Blur, and when I wanted to fire a Cobra to kill a few bosses at a critical moment, I forgot to switch back to my Cerberus Harrier and when I held the trigger, I ended up firing all six of my cobra rockets in quick succession. First thing I said was (and I didn't even do it intentionally) : "God, they're all gone..."

Many lols were had by all.


that would be a funny moment. ^_^

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Nevermind I can't read anythread other than this one. For some reason when I see the post that people put up. I find most of them " what the hell are you talking about?" I mean me related. There are somethings that I read that I know Saren never did like for instents...

Apperently Shepard shouldn't have kill Saren because in the end the brat was right. If the brat was right, then why is it that he doesn't tell Shepard this at all.

Heck why doesn't the Catalyst talk to Shepard for f***** sack on the Citadel. Oh and why doesn't the Brat tell Harbinger where the Crucible is since it is the Citadel right, so doesn't that mean it could open the relay in dark space? I mean why else would I just uild my home and have no remote control so I could open the dark space relay, and boom.

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Oh and today we were learning about Synthesis in chemestry. I almost made I coment to my girl that is a friend when she said " I actually don't know what Synthesis is mrs...." I was about to say " Let's just say it end in galactic rape, and with a gun to your head." I honestly can't stand when people now talk about Controling things, and Synthesising chemicals.

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Man the bsn feels empty. I wonder if it's because of Ac, Black ops 2, and Halo came out.

I guys most ME fans are call of duty fans because the mp forum is dead, and now this forum seems like it's died down. Could be the time zones, but maybe this also. And with that Ladys, and Gents night.

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I took a day off to clean my house and to do something other than Mass Effect. Can't spend too much time on BSN otherwise you'd forget about all the other stuff you're supposed to do.

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