Rifneno wrote...
Riiiiiight. "Fleshing out the story". I'm sure the money had nothing to do with it. Just a happy coincidence.
BatmanTurian wrote...
demersel wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
I'm just kind of skimming it. I may have missed the details.
http://en.wikipedia....soners_of_Power
Yeah, the details are really the important part. )) Priority: Earth mission reminded methis book a lot.
I can see why, reading deeper. It has some parallels.
Modifié par demersel, 16 novembre 2012 - 08:08 .
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Riiiiiight. "Fleshing out the story". I'm sure the money had nothing to do with it. Just a happy coincidence.
Are you saying money had nothing to do with the creation of the first three games?
I don't see the problem.
I understand how franchises can be milked, but ultimately, the consumer has the final say.
Don't like, don't buy.
Modifié par AlexKavern, 16 novembre 2012 - 08:37 .
AlexKavern wrote...
"The mouth guard is one of the few adult gestures that is as obvious as a child's. The hand covers the mouth and the thumb is pressed against the cheek as the brain sub-consciously instructs it to try and suppress the deceitful words that are being said. Sometimes this gesture may only be several fingers over the mouth or even a closed fist, but its meaning remains the same.Many people try to disguise the mouth guard gesture by giving a fake cough.If the person who is speaking uses this gesture, it indicates that he is telling a lie (goto 1 link). If, however, he covers his mouth while you are speaking, it indicates that he feels you are lying! (goto 2 link)"
Look at Hackett:
http://www.youtube.c...C_NISH28#t=601s
And at Shepard:
http://www.youtube.c...C_NISH28#t=721s
There's clearly something odd...
Is that so? I understood the movie at the first time (not of course every nifty foreshadowing), but people told me it was complicated. Don't know.magnetite wrote...
Personally I believe Mass Effect 3's ending is kind of like Inception. Not only the way it presents, but as some people found out, it will take multiple playthroughs to pick up on it. As with Inception, it took multiple viewings in order to understand what was going on.
Modifié par Restrider, 16 novembre 2012 - 09:39 .
Restrider wrote...
I that so? I understood the movie at the first time (not of course every nifty foreshadowing), but people told me it was complicated. Don't know.magnetite wrote...
Personally I believe Mass Effect 3's ending is kind of like Inception. Not only the way it presents, but as some people found out, it will take multiple playthroughs to pick up on it. As with Inception, it took multiple viewings in order to understand what was going on.
On the other hand, when I am in the cinema with friends watching a movie, I can usually predict what is going to happen, if it is a mainstream movie (even the shocking twists).
Modifié par Eryri, 16 novembre 2012 - 08:50 .
BatmanTurian wrote...
AlexKavern wrote...
"The mouth guard is one of the few adult gestures that is as obvious as a child's. The hand covers the mouth and the thumb is pressed against the cheek as the brain sub-consciously instructs it to try and suppress the deceitful words that are being said. Sometimes this gesture may only be several fingers over the mouth or even a closed fist, but its meaning remains the same.Many people try to disguise the mouth guard gesture by giving a fake cough.If the person who is speaking uses this gesture, it indicates that he is telling a lie (goto 1 link). If, however, he covers his mouth while you are speaking, it indicates that he feels you are lying! (goto 2 link)"
Look at Hackett:
http://www.youtube.c...C_NISH28#t=601s
And at Shepard:
http://www.youtube.c...C_NISH28#t=721s
There's clearly something odd...
I think in this instance, the body language is clearly someone paying attention and trying to think about the details. I don't see any deception. I mark it down as contemplation. They are similar gestures. If they were being interrogated, then that might be a different story. The context is important.
Eryri wrote...
Restrider wrote...
I that so? I understood the movie at the first time (not of course every nifty foreshadowing), but people told me it was complicated. Don't know.magnetite wrote...
Personally I believe Mass Effect 3's ending is kind of like Inception. Not only the way it presents, but as some people found out, it will take multiple playthroughs to pick up on it. As with Inception, it took multiple viewings in order to understand what was going on.
On the other hand, when I am in the cinema with friends watching a movie, I can usually predict what is going to happen, if it is a mainstream movie (even the shocking twists).
:lol:My Dad's like that. He's an absolute nightmare to watch films with. He generally works out whodunnit in the first act. And immediately tells you.
Eryri wrote...
Restrider wrote...
I that so? I understood the movie at the first time (not of course every nifty foreshadowing), but people told me it was complicated. Don't know.magnetite wrote...
Personally I believe Mass Effect 3's ending is kind of like Inception. Not only the way it presents, but as some people found out, it will take multiple playthroughs to pick up on it. As with Inception, it took multiple viewings in order to understand what was going on.
On the other hand, when I am in the cinema with friends watching a movie, I can usually predict what is going to happen, if it is a mainstream movie (even the shocking twists).
:lol:My Dad's like that. He's an absolute nightmare to watch films with. He generally works out whodunnit in the first act. And immediately tells you.
doubt can suggest contemplation. There, Shepard says nothing, so he has no deceiving words to hide.AlexKavern wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
AlexKavern wrote...
"The mouth guard is one of the few adult gestures that is as obvious as a child's. The hand covers the mouth and the thumb is pressed against the cheek as the brain sub-consciously instructs it to try and suppress the deceitful words that are being said. Sometimes this gesture may only be several fingers over the mouth or even a closed fist, but its meaning remains the same.Many people try to disguise the mouth guard gesture by giving a fake cough.If the person who is speaking uses this gesture, it indicates that he is telling a lie (goto 1 link). If, however, he covers his mouth while you are speaking, it indicates that he feels you are lying! (goto 2 link)"
Look at Hackett:
http://www.youtube.c...C_NISH28#t=601s
And at Shepard:
http://www.youtube.c...C_NISH28#t=721s
There's clearly something odd...
I think in this instance, the body language is clearly someone paying attention and trying to think about the details. I don't see any deception. I mark it down as contemplation. They are similar gestures. If they were being interrogated, then that might be a different story. The context is important.
Maybe. But for me, Shepard's reaction is more like doubt. Especially in the context of conventional victory. Maybe it's because I disagree with all this "we can't beat them conventionally" crap
Fair enough. Would be boring if we all agreed on everything. As for milking the cash cow, I think they'd be crazy not to, though how they'll make future ME games sufficiently different from the current terilogy remains to be seen. Maybe they won't bother; maybe they'll decide that the Shepard saga was only the beginning of the fight against the Reapers. Only time will tell.Rifneno wrote...
Davik Kang wrote...
I agree with DD, principally because a vote for ME3 is really a vote for the whole trilogy. Similar to what DD says, I think the ending is a milestone in videgaming history. It is a truly brilliant way to tie the whole series together, using the 'choice' mechanic as a final boss, simultaneously playing mind games with the audience, and giving them a chance to express themselves in terms of what they've learned in the series and what they consider the key values of the story, Shepard and themselves to be.
The ending makes the whole trilogy a deeply personal journey for each player. Imo it is a genuinely incredible achievement, and retrospectively makes the ME trilogy one of the most important achievements in gaming so far. I am 100% convinced that ME3 should win GOTY for that reason. I just hope those deciding at least see this argument, even if ultimately they don't agree with it.
I disagree, on pretty much all of it. This is only true if IT is true. And while very likely, it doesn't count without a true reveal. What we have right now is an ending so ****ty that news agencies like BBC and CNN considered the outrage news worthy.
As it's becoming increasingly obvious that we'll still be fighting the Reapers in ME4 and they told us half a decade ago that this was going to be a trilogy... well, I can't see how this is anything but milking the cash cow. I wonder when we're going to see the real end of this story. I have a bad feeling it won't be for quite a few games. If ever.
Dwailing wrote...
After reading TV Tropes, it becomes rather easy to discern certain parts of a story.
BatmanTurian wrote...
I'm the same way.
Modifié par Eryri, 16 novembre 2012 - 09:20 .
Eryri wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
After reading TV Tropes, it becomes rather easy to discern certain parts of a story.BatmanTurian wrote...
I'm the same way.
I hope you both have very understanding families.
Modifié par BatmanTurian, 16 novembre 2012 - 09:24 .
You know... that really reminds me of Fahrenheit 451.demersel wrote...
There is a really great reveal at the end - that the fake pointless endles war that the evil govenrment using as a pretense for indoctrinating population - is actaully a very real and very serious deal - and that the enemy is indeed brutal, savage and unforgiving. And the best part - is that it has not yet even started propertly.
Restrider wrote...
OMG!
We totally missed that page 1890 was the first 945x2 anniversary!
Modifié par Eryri, 16 novembre 2012 - 09:37 .
Restrider wrote...
OMG!
We totally missed that page 1890 was the first 945x2 anniversary!
:whistle:
Modifié par Dwailing, 16 novembre 2012 - 09:38 .
Shame. I was in MP and missed it. But we can still celebrate by refreshing good memories.Restrider wrote...
OMG!
We totally missed that page 1890 was the first 945x2 anniversary!
Modifié par paxxton, 16 novembre 2012 - 09:49 .
Oh, I've already celebrated it when you were top on this page...paxxton wrote...
Shame. I was in MP and missed it. But we can still celebrate by refreshing good memories.Restrider wrote...
OMG!
We totally missed that page 1890 was the first 945x2 anniversary!
Page 945 Anniversary Link
EDIT: Page 945 does exist. It's not a fake.
My answer to your thread:BatmanTurian wrote...
Promoting my own thread, Restrider-style.
Which ending would Data, Spock, and Sherlock Holmes choose?
Dwailing wrote...
Well, I'd like to plug my poll again: http://social.biowar...20/polls/41660/ The results are interesting so far, but I would like more people to vote so I can hopefully speak with more confidence about the results.
Modifié par 401 Kill, 16 novembre 2012 - 09:53 .
Restrider wrote...
My answer to your thread:BatmanTurian wrote...
Promoting my own thread, Restrider-style.
Which ending would Data, Spock, and Sherlock Holmes choose?
Data: Though many suggest that Data may pick Synthesis, from Star Trek:
First Contact we know that Data is not easily corrupted. The Borg Queen
offered him (kind of) Synthesis, but he rejected it and destroyed the
Borg.
Spock: That one is easy. Destroy (his quote was already mentioned more than once).
Sherlock
Holmes: As mentioned in the OP, he has sociopathic traits and I guess
he would also choose Destroy since he would not be driven by empathy
towards synthetics or a utilitarian way of thinking.
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