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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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So why did BioWare hire Szarabajka to do voice-over for Retaliation DLC trailer? Just for the trailer itself?

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paxxton wrote...

So why did BioWare hire Szarabajka to do voice-over for Retaliation DLC trailer? Just for the trailer itself?


The suspect thing is that his name is in the end credits.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

So why did BioWare hire Szarabajka to do voice-over for Retaliation DLC trailer? Just for the trailer itself?


The suspect thing is that his name is in the end credits.


I think he did the voice of some random batarian on the Citadel.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

So why did BioWare hire Szarabajka to do voice-over for Retaliation DLC trailer? Just for the trailer itself?


The suspect thing is that his name is in the end credits.

He did Additional Voices for ME3. Which? Unknown.

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Does that remind you of anything Shepard says?


For me, this is a dead giveaway Control is succumbing to Indoctrination. Yay! Posted Image

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http://www.youtube.c...dXYWKPyEMM#t=0s

http://www.youtube.c...dXYWKPyEMM#t=0s

Okay here is Legend of the Seeker season 2 ep 10. Now in ep 9 he escaped the place that he is at, but watch and listen to what the lady tells Richard. It's almost like Indoctrinate is, only you just have to watch the next video below the first one.

The next one ties in with WNM theory, and IT, but only the endings don't really happen.

Holy crap the 2nd video just os amazing. the lady the head one, is just it gives sense to the epilogue in ME3.

He will be dead long before he starves to death. The visons will kill him. What happence in his mind, also happence to his body.

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Star I know it was so good. The actors were great, along with the action, and the story was so great, but no abc had to cut it, and along with V the new one in MBC, that was good.


I lost interest with V at some point. I forget when. But I still watch Legend of the Seekers on Netflix. In fact, I never saw the last part of it for some reason so when I saw it on Netflix I was thrilled! (Or was it Amazon Prime?) That was such a great show. I wish it were still on. there's so little truly enjoyable scifi on these days. I think there are only two or three shows I tivo that are favorites.... Merlin is one of them. That's so well done, but the brits do some great TV.


omg I love Merlin, have you watched all the seasons!?

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Love how they're b*tching about indoctrination being in the canon now. " Oh noes, all the bad guys are indoctrinated! This is just bad writing! There should be bad guys that aren't indoctrinated!" convienently forgetting Aria and the gangs.
They don't like it in the canon because it's inconvienent to their headcanon.

What a joke this forum is.

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Hey, it's only 10 days to Omega! Do you think Harby'll show up?


No, but I think some Collectors might >.>


Have you noticed they never really had a real resolution with Harbinger? He just got up, left, and was finished off with the rest of the Reapers?

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Star I know it was so good. The actors were great, along with the action, and the story was so great, but no abc had to cut it, and along with V the new one in MBC, that was good.


I lost interest with V at some point. I forget when. But I still watch Legend of the Seekers on Netflix. In fact, I never saw the last part of it for some reason so when I saw it on Netflix I was thrilled! (Or was it Amazon Prime?) That was such a great show. I wish it were still on. there's so little truly enjoyable scifi on these days. I think there are only two or three shows I tivo that are favorites.... Merlin is one of them. That's so well done, but the brits do some great TV.

Just don't read the books that show is based on. I don't think you'll like them at all.

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Seriously, no one is willing to connect what Harbinger says to what Shepard in Control says?

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Star I know it was so good. The actors were great, along with the action, and the story was so great, but no abc had to cut it, and along with V the new one in MBC, that was good.


I lost interest with V at some point. I forget when. But I still watch Legend of the Seekers on Netflix. In fact, I never saw the last part of it for some reason so when I saw it on Netflix I was thrilled! (Or was it Amazon Prime?) That was such a great show. I wish it were still on. there's so little truly enjoyable scifi on these days. I think there are only two or three shows I tivo that are favorites.... Merlin is one of them. That's so well done, but the brits do some great TV.


omg I love Merlin, have you watched all the seasons!?


Yep. But I forget where it ended each season because it's almost a year. I think it starts nov/dec or Jan here again. I'm sure there was another season at least. They could easily run it for 8 or 9...  If they do a great reveal like they did with Chuck every time someone found out he was an agent (yes, I loved that show too!), it could go at least two or three seasons with Arthur knowing about Merlin and different events that follow and having to use magic but at what level and to what degree. I hope it has at least as long a run as MI 5. It's truly one of the best scifi shows on. I mainly tuned in because I loved Giles from Buffy. Damn, my geek is showing. But it has proven itself to be one of the best scifi shows around. Too bad it's so short season wise.

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hey guys I found another 1

on the end of the season, the child that I mentioned looks just like the star bat, and kind off tells the Seeker what the brat tells Shepard, only it's a little different.

http://www.youtube.c...n2krQWh8#t=601s

Now in the next video the boy is alone right, but watch very carefully.

Now imagine if Harbinger took control of a dead body, like the Leviathans can/ rachni, but can mask his voice because he perfected the Leviathans powers, which lead to Indoctrination.



www.youtube.com/watch
Bioware you clever devils, if you think about it, if Harbinger used his real voice, something in Shepard's mind will tell him/her that something isn't right. Now Bioware knew that the fans/ us would check to see if Bioware masked the guy that plays Harbinger. Which then they did male, female Shepard voice actors, and combined them with the child's voice to create a real voice.

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Star I know it was so good. The actors were great, along with the action, and the story was so great, but no abc had to cut it, and along with V the new one in MBC, that was good.


I lost interest with V at some point. I forget when. But I still watch Legend of the Seekers on Netflix. In fact, I never saw the last part of it for some reason so when I saw it on Netflix I was thrilled! (Or was it Amazon Prime?) That was such a great show. I wish it were still on. there's so little truly enjoyable scifi on these days. I think there are only two or three shows I tivo that are favorites.... Merlin is one of them. That's so well done, but the brits do some great TV.

Just don't read the books that show is based on. I don't think you'll like them at all.


I know there was a great dislike from readers who watched the show. I've actually never read scifi or fantasy books. I'm a more visual person for those genres because what I imagine is never quite as amazing as how well the special effects and other aspects are done for shows. So I stick to non-fiction for reading as it's hard to find regular fiction that is well written barring classics. I love to be able to read something that has great prose and is vivid and gives a strong feeling of attachment to the characters as well as having great themes, subplots, foreshadowing, etc - all the stuff we talk about here. Most books lack that today. Rarely one comes out that is worthy of attention. Some get a lot of attention and turn out to be crap.

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C'mon, people. You can do this.

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paxxton wrote...

C'mon, people. You can do this.


how about this. I will watch it, if you take a look into my post above this post. Deal,

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starlitegirlx wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Star I know it was so good. The actors were great, along with the action, and the story was so great, but no abc had to cut it, and along with V the new one in MBC, that was good.


I lost interest with V at some point. I forget when. But I still watch Legend of the Seekers on Netflix. In fact, I never saw the last part of it for some reason so when I saw it on Netflix I was thrilled! (Or was it Amazon Prime?) That was such a great show. I wish it were still on. there's so little truly enjoyable scifi on these days. I think there are only two or three shows I tivo that are favorites.... Merlin is one of them. That's so well done, but the brits do some great TV.


omg I love Merlin, have you watched all the seasons!?


Yep. But I forget where it ended each season because it's almost a year. I think it starts nov/dec or Jan here again. I'm sure there was another season at least. They could easily run it for 8 or 9...  If they do a great reveal like they did with Chuck every time someone found out he was an agent (yes, I loved that show too!), it could go at least two or three seasons with Arthur knowing about Merlin and different events that follow and having to use magic but at what level and to what degree. I hope it has at least as long a run as MI 5. It's truly one of the best scifi shows on. I mainly tuned in because I loved Giles from Buffy. Damn, my geek is showing. But it has proven itself to be one of the best scifi shows around. Too bad it's so short season wise.


honest if you lived were I lived we could have been friends a lot sooner.

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Does that remind you of anything Shepard says?


For me, this is a dead giveaway Control is succumbing to Indoctrination. Yay! Posted Image


Yes it does.


okay I am going to go play some mp for ME3. Oh and get ready for the Thanksgiving challege coming up. I think we will see a trailer some time next week for Omega.

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Love how they're b*tching about indoctrination being in the canon now. " Oh noes, all the bad guys are indoctrinated! This is just bad writing! There should be bad guys that aren't indoctrinated!" convienently forgetting Aria and the gangs.
They don't like it in the canon because it's inconvienent to their headcanon.

What a joke this forum is.


Indeed.  At least a lot of the comments are reasonable and understand what Indoctrination does.

Of course, most enemies aren't technically Indoctrinated.  Husks are mind-slaved and programmed, for example.  Much less effective, but much more effiecient.

But yeah, most of the enemy leaders are indoctrinated.  That's supposedly the point.  To complain about that is like complaining the Darkspawn are the major threat in Dragon Age, or that Sauron's minions are too common in Lord of the Rings, or that there's not enough non-machine enemies in The Matrix.

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masster blaster wrote...

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C'mon, people. You can do this.


how about this. I will watch it, if you take a look into my post above this post. Deal,


So BioWare might've been inspired by the Legend of the Seeker. It's really similar to what they did with the Catalyst.

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C'mon, people. You can do this.


Do what?

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Andromidius wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Love how they're b*tching about indoctrination being in the canon now. " Oh noes, all the bad guys are indoctrinated! This is just bad writing! There should be bad guys that aren't indoctrinated!" convienently forgetting Aria and the gangs.
They don't like it in the canon because it's inconvienent to their headcanon.

What a joke this forum is.


Indeed.  At least a lot of the comments are reasonable and understand what Indoctrination does.

Of course, most enemies aren't technically Indoctrinated.  Husks are mind-slaved and programmed, for example.  Much less effective, but much more effiecient.

But yeah, most of the enemy leaders are indoctrinated.  That's supposedly the point.  To complain about that is like complaining the Darkspawn are the major threat in Dragon Age, or that Sauron's minions are too common in Lord of the Rings, or that there's not enough non-machine enemies in The Matrix.


Precisely. It's missing the point of the story entirely.

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Bioware you clever devils, if you think about it, if Harbinger used his real voice, something in Shepard's mind will tell him/her that something isn't right. Now Bioware knew that the fans/ us would check to see if Bioware masked the guy that plays Harbinger. Which then they did male, female Shepard voice actors, and combined them with the child's voice to create a real voice.


Shepard's own voice gives him/her the options disguised at the brat. The reapers use you against yourself. Your fears become their tools. When you think about it, control and synthesis ARE shepard's fears in a way because shepard fought against krogan and geth that were under saren and sovereign's control so there is that element of synthesis (meddling with genetics) and then fought Saren who was synthesis and became soveriegn for the boss battle. More synthesis. Worst fear. Then all the heretics under control were control.

There are many aspects to control and synthesis and why they became options. They all stem from shepard's fears, desires, and needs. That is what indoctrination preys upon. And all of these things have been shown in battle or said by characters or witnessed in one way or another by shepard. The collectors are probably very much tied into shepard's fears and synthesis. Remember, that was quite the reveal in ME2. It's all connected seamlessly and it really boils down to the ruthless calculus of war. Probably the most relevant conversations were those with Garrus, which makes sense since odds are Garrus will be your teammate (pretty hard to kill him in ME2 as I understand) and was there from minute one before you are even a spectre. They also seem to parallel each other characterwise. Garrus is an outsider renegade in ME2 when he comes on board and that is where Shepard is at as well. In ME1 they are struggling to get saren and both have a strong sense of needing to stop him moreso than any other character. Then in ME3 they are both focused on saving their worlds while also saving the galaxy. The ruthless calculus of war is the greatest struggle for most players, I think.

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Paxxton yes it's so similar, and they did a very good job at it.

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401 Kill wrote...

paxxton wrote...

C'mon, people. You can do this.


Do what?



paxxton wrote...

Does that remind you of anything Shepard says?


For me, this is a dead giveaway Control is succumbing to Indoctrination. Yay! Posted Image