SwobyJ wrote...
starlitegirlx wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
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Bioware you clever devils, if you think about it, if Harbinger used his real voice, something in Shepard's mind will tell him/her that something isn't right. Now Bioware knew that the fans/ us would check to see if Bioware masked the guy that plays Harbinger. Which then they did male, female Shepard voice actors, and combined them with the child's voice to create a real voice.
Shepard's own voice gives him/her the options disguised at the brat. The reapers use you against yourself. Your fears become their tools. When you think about it, control and synthesis ARE shepard's fears in a way because shepard fought against krogan and geth that were under saren and sovereign's control so there is that element of synthesis (meddling with genetics) and then fought Saren who was synthesis and became soveriegn for the boss battle. More synthesis. Worst fear. Then all the heretics under control were control.
There are many aspects to control and synthesis and why they became options. They all stem from shepard's fears, desires, and needs. That is what indoctrination preys upon. And all of these things have been shown in battle or said by characters or witnessed in one way or another by shepard. The collectors are probably very much tied into shepard's fears and synthesis. Remember, that was quite the reveal in ME2. It's all connected seamlessly and it really boils down to the ruthless calculus of war. Probably the most relevant conversations were those with Garrus, which makes sense since odds are Garrus will be your teammate (pretty hard to kill him in ME2 as I understand) and was there from minute one before you are even a spectre. They also seem to parallel each other characterwise. Garrus is an outsider renegade in ME2 when he comes on board and that is where Shepard is at as well. In ME1 they are struggling to get saren and both have a strong sense of needing to stop him moreso than any other character. Then in ME3 they are both focused on saving their worlds while also saving the galaxy. The ruthless calculus of war is the greatest struggle for most players, I think.
Good way of putting it.
Even hardcore Destroyers have a difficult time seeing that in a 'general Shepard view', both Synthesis (as in, full co-operation and a proper merging of synthetics and organics) is an idea in Shepard's mind, and so is Control (he fights the idea of it, but in the script you'll notice Shepard continuously questions whether Control is possible or not - like he wonders whether the option exists, and should he ever take it).
Destroy is the big choice, sure, but Control and Synthesis represent some of the hopes and fears that Shepard, and the playerbase have had before. We've seen this on the forum itself, over the years of BSN.
Plus, control and synthesis are represented by villians in ME1 and ME2 so there's the fear entangled with those possibilities, yet they represent the lack of ruthless calculus of war, which is presented as a struggle shepard may have. It depends on how you responds. I've begun to wonder if many of these conversations represent different aspects of our shepard. Both exist within him/her. You may choose the answer but it might be an explanation as to why there is no middle road. Also why refuse was not an original option. Refuse would be the middle road where no choice is made. But dialogue wise, you are always forced into a paragon or renegade response. It could be said then that both options exist within all shepards. The ruthless calculus vs the no ruthless calculus. Doubt vs every decision you make is the right one.
Yes, shepard does wonder about control because of the illusive man. Shepard never wonders about synthesis though, which is interesting. No form of it ever comes up. Even back to Saren in ME1, that was a horrific solution. The protheans as collectors made it more horrific. I don't thing any of the dialogue options there are anything but 'how awful' variations. And they were synthesis generally speaking. I'm not sure if they had reaper tech or if they were part synthetic but they were DNA altered to the extreme. Close enough for me.
What's interesting is that given this, the brat pushes the most for synthesis. Destroy is glossed over and made to look horrible, control is given credence but made to look like a good option but synthesis is elevated to this superior status. So while this is going on in Shepard's mind, there has to be a major guiding force from the reapers to give synthesis such a hard sell because nothing in the game ever makes this look good to shepard.
I wonder if it's mainly about submitting under the guise of control (which is still a rejection of the reapers to a degree because while you are not destroying them, you are still not on their side if you want to control them) or actively choosing to be synthesised.
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