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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Fur28 wrote...

It´s just that i always use soldier, let my squadmates take out they´re shields or barriers and i do the rest on the distance. And i suck with Vanguards i got too used with ME1 overpowered God-like shotgun that i feel weak with the shotguns from 2 and 3.


Well, the ME3 vanguard is like 95% charge and nova, and 5% shotguns. You only use the shotgun on Atlases and Banshees since they have instant kills. Brutes have instant kills too, but almost never use them.

As long as you have +200% recharge speed at all times on a vanguard, sucking at it really isnt possible.

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To be fair, Liara in the same breathing space as Aria again is probably a bad idea. A really bad one.
I'm also going to say that Omega is going to have a bigger impact than we're supposed to expect and I want the flippin trailer to come out this week.

I sure hope so, considering it's hefty size and price. Also, yeah, a trailer would sure be nice.

Also, it's Cerberus that's supposedly the main antagonist in this dlc so yeah. Of course we're going to get more than we see, it's a given with them and their shennanigans.


Oh believe me, I hope Omega will blow me away and have IT clues:lol:!!

But the absence of squadies already eliminates any possibility of me being blown away by this DLC, so I hope that they are keeping expectations low so that they can throw a curve ball at us.

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So i decided to take a rest from Halo 4 and play throught the ME trilogy again, It´s there any sign of Shepard´s starting indoctrination i should look for in the first two games?


Personally I think it started during the Arrival DLC, or at least the biggest indoctrination influence with the Object Rho reaper artifact. Which basically indoctrinated everyone on that asteroid.

Harbinger: Struggle if you wish, your mind will be mine.
Codex: Reaper indoctrination is an insidious means of corrupting organic minds.


Bad luck for me for not downloading Arrival then, had to decide between that or Deus Ex DLC.
But you sure there´s nothing in Sovereign conversations or Virmine mission in general?

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Oh believe me, I hope Omega will blow me away and have IT clues:lol:!!

But the absence of squadies already eliminates any possibility of me being blown away by this DLC, so I hope that they are keeping expectations low so that they can throw a curve ball at us.


I dont see why everyone is so down on not being able to bring your normal squadmates. If you could they'd probly have very few lines, since BioWare isnt going to give any essential dialogue to people you might not have. At least this way they can be sure who you're taking, give them plenty of dialogue, and balance encounters accordingly.

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byne wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

It´s just that i always use soldier, let my squadmates take out they´re shields or barriers and i do the rest on the distance. And i suck with Vanguards i got too used with ME1 overpowered God-like shotgun that i feel weak with the shotguns from 2 and 3.


Well, the ME3 vanguard is like 95% charge and nova, and 5% shotguns. You only use the shotgun on Atlases and Banshees since they have instant kills. Brutes have instant kills too, but almost never use them.

As long as you have +200% recharge speed at all times on a vanguard, sucking at it really isnt possible.


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I dont see why everyone is so down on not being able to bring your normal squadmates. If you could they'd probly have very few lines, since BioWare isnt going to give any essential dialogue to people you might not have. At least this way they can be sure who you're taking, give them plenty of dialogue, and balance encounters accordingly.


That's my thought. I mean, my perma squaddies were great, but I'm not opposed to more interactions with other characters.

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byne wrote...

I dont see why everyone is so down on not being able to bring your normal squadmates. If you could they'd probly have very few lines, since BioWare isnt going to give any essential dialogue to people you might not have. At least this way they can be sure who you're taking, give them plenty of dialogue, and balance encounters accordingly.


That's my thought. I mean, my perma squaddies were great, but I'm not opposed to more interactions with other characters.


Since Mac Walters and Patrik Weekes are good character writers i´m pretty sure Aria and Nyreen will be very interesting people, the only thing i fear is that they were only introduced to make the plot posible and alienated them for the story, just like other characters in 3

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Fur28 wrote...

So i decided to take a rest from Halo 4 and play throught the ME trilogy again, It´s there any sign of Shepard´s starting indoctrination i should look for in the first two games?


the first beacon. I heard it is supposed to have light whispers when you first touch the beacon. Also look for the scientist and really pay attention for the jibbering of what he says. You'll have more IT context now than on your first play through you'll probably notice more things

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I don't know what to believe in anymore. I'm not willing to call it until after Omega.

Omega will most Certainly not be the "big reveal" DLC, if that's what you are suggesting. If its going to happen, it will be with the final DLC.

Not really no. I don't expect Omega to answer any questions at all really. But I think it's going to answer a question that didn't really need answering (like what is omega), and by doing so raise or make you question more significant questions that need answering (what does the crucible do as in Leviathan, what the hell was cerberus doing, etc.). If it does that then I'm willing to believe that the next DLC will be a reveal.

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 @everyone about commentary. Thanks for the input. Here's one of my favorite commentary people-HuskyStarcraft:



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Hey! This proves that there's no happy ending because nothing ends.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 novembre 2012 - 02:57 .


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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

So i decided to take a rest from Halo 4 and play throught the ME trilogy again, It´s there any sign of Shepard´s starting indoctrination i should look for in the first two games?


the first beacon. I heard it is supposed to have light whispers when you first touch the beacon. Also look for the scientist and really pay attention for the jibbering of what he says. You'll have more IT context now than on your first play through you'll probably notice more things


With all the knowledge i have now, i wish i could ask Sovereign is he was just a machine created by a kid to play space-farmville

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Fur28 wrote...

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byne wrote...

I dont see why everyone is so down on not being able to bring your normal squadmates. If you could they'd probly have very few lines, since BioWare isnt going to give any essential dialogue to people you might not have. At least this way they can be sure who you're taking, give them plenty of dialogue, and balance encounters accordingly.


That's my thought. I mean, my perma squaddies were great, but I'm not opposed to more interactions with other characters.


Since Mac Walters and Patrik Weekes are good character writers i´m pretty sure Aria and Nyreen will be very interesting people, the only thing i fear is that they were only introduced to make the plot posible and alienated them for the story, just like other characters in 3


I would assume that is exactly all Nyreen is there for, just for purposes of the plot and because people have requested a female Turian in the game. Maybe also introduce to the possibility of having a female Turian to set up allowing you to choose your race in ME4

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

 @everyone about commentary. Thanks for the input. Here's one of my favorite commentary people-HuskyStarcraft:



Husky?... i think i heard tha name before, is he from Gamestation, Warpzone, Dodger pressstuff, etc.?

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MWMike2011 wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

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byne wrote...

I dont see why everyone is so down on not being able to bring your normal squadmates. If you could they'd probly have very few lines, since BioWare isnt going to give any essential dialogue to people you might not have. At least this way they can be sure who you're taking, give them plenty of dialogue, and balance encounters accordingly.


That's my thought. I mean, my perma squaddies were great, but I'm not opposed to more interactions with other characters.


Since Mac Walters and Patrik Weekes are good character writers i´m pretty sure Aria and Nyreen will be very interesting people, the only thing i fear is that they were only introduced to make the plot posible and alienated them for the story, just like other characters in 3


I would assume that is exactly all Nyreen is there for, just for purposes of the plot and because people have requested a female Turian in the game. Maybe also introduce to the possibility of having a female Turian to set up allowing you to choose your race in ME4


Yeah i know that, what i mean it´s that i dont want to fell in love with the character and then boom massive character change that makes her totally lameo.

Also, do you think ME4 will be like DA:O in the race and background selection? because if it´s like that then wouldn´t it turn out that you choose different character per game.

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I would assume that is exactly all Nyreen is there for, just for purposes of the plot and because people have requested a female Turian in the game. Maybe also introduce to the possibility of having a female Turian to set up allowing you to choose your race in ME4


Imagine if they did ME4 in a similar way to DA:O, and gave each race a different playable backstory?

That would almost make up for Shepard not being the protagonist.

Edit: DA:O :ph34r:'d! I knew I should have posted it before going to get a drink!

Modifié par byne, 19 novembre 2012 - 03:08 .


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Oh believe me, I hope Omega will blow me away and have IT clues:lol:!!

But the absence of squadies already eliminates any possibility of me being blown away by this DLC, so I hope that they are keeping expectations low so that they can throw a curve ball at us.

It is a bit of a downer after how nice it was to finally have squad and select LIs talking in Leviathan, but I personally don't mind it. Shepard paired with two shady people that, as far as we know, can't be trusted is an interesting and strange way to take Omega back. Granted, Aria is one of those people so her coming along is a given. But Nyreen? Ex-turian military sounds like a pretty big deal, and I kind of doubt she's another Archangel if she's a mercenary.

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Bad luck for me for not downloading Arrival then, had to decide between that or Deus Ex DLC.
But you sure there´s nothing in Sovereign conversations or Virmine mission in general?


Hmm, well perhaps the line that says:

"They're harvesting us. Letting us advance until they level they need, then wiping us out".

During the conversation with Sovereign. Think that's what Tali was saying, but other lines were similar.

Harbinger says during Arrival (if before suicide mission): Your leaders will beg to be harvested.

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byne wrote...

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I would assume that is exactly all Nyreen is there for, just for purposes of the plot and because people have requested a female Turian in the game. Maybe also introduce to the possibility of having a female Turian to set up allowing you to choose your race in ME4


Imagine if they did ME4 in a similar way to DA:O, and gave each race a different playable backstory?

That would almost make up for Shepard not being the protagonist.

Edit: DA:O :ph34r:'d! I knew I should have posted it before going to get a drink!


And there's still speculation that, if you chose Destroy and got the Breath Scene, there might be a Shepard origin that you can choose that let's you play him/her long enough to see what happens afterwards (IT or Literal).  That way, you could get closure for Shepard, if you meet the criteria, and Shepard wouldn't be the focus of the story.

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I would assume that is exactly all Nyreen is there for, just for purposes of the plot and because people have requested a female Turian in the game. Maybe also introduce to the possibility of having a female Turian to set up allowing you to choose your race in ME4


Imagine if they did ME4 in a similar way to DA:O, and gave each race a different playable backstory?

That would almost make up for Shepard not being the protagonist.

Edit: DA:O :ph34r:'d! I knew I should have posted it before going to get a drink!


And there's still speculation that, if you chose Destroy and got the Breath Scene, there might be a Shepard origin that you can choose that let's you play him/her long enough to see what happens afterwards (IT or Literal).  That way, you could get closure for Shepard, if you meet the criteria, and Shepard wouldn't be the focus of the story.


I dunno, that might be too complicated. I think, if anything, they will make it so your character is a descendant of one of the original characters from this trilogy, thus letting you choose your race. If your Shepard survived, depending on the race you choose, and you LI, your character could very well be their direct descendant.

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MWMike2011 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

I would assume that is exactly all Nyreen is there for, just for purposes of the plot and because people have requested a female Turian in the game. Maybe also introduce to the possibility of having a female Turian to set up allowing you to choose your race in ME4


Imagine if they did ME4 in a similar way to DA:O, and gave each race a different playable backstory?

That would almost make up for Shepard not being the protagonist.

Edit: DA:O :ph34r:'d! I knew I should have posted it before going to get a drink!


And there's still speculation that, if you chose Destroy and got the Breath Scene, there might be a Shepard origin that you can choose that let's you play him/her long enough to see what happens afterwards (IT or Literal).  That way, you could get closure for Shepard, if you meet the criteria, and Shepard wouldn't be the focus of the story.


I dunno, that might be too complicated. I think, if anything, they will make it so your character is a descendant of one of the original characters from this trilogy, thus letting you choose your race. If your Shepard survived, depending on the race you choose, and you LI, your character could very well be their direct descendant.


That could work, but what can I say?  I really want to know EXACTLY what happened to Shepard.

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Dwailing wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

I would assume that is exactly all Nyreen is there for, just for purposes of the plot and because people have requested a female Turian in the game. Maybe also introduce to the possibility of having a female Turian to set up allowing you to choose your race in ME4


Imagine if they did ME4 in a similar way to DA:O, and gave each race a different playable backstory?

That would almost make up for Shepard not being the protagonist.

Edit: DA:O :ph34r:'d! I knew I should have posted it before going to get a drink!


And there's still speculation that, if you chose Destroy and got the Breath Scene, there might be a Shepard origin that you can choose that let's you play him/her long enough to see what happens afterwards (IT or Literal).  That way, you could get closure for Shepard, if you meet the criteria, and Shepard wouldn't be the focus of the story.


I dunno, that might be too complicated. I think, if anything, they will make it so your character is a descendant of one of the original characters from this trilogy, thus letting you choose your race. If your Shepard survived, depending on the race you choose, and you LI, your character could very well be their direct descendant.


That could work, but what can I say?  I really want to know EXACTLY what happened to Shepard.


Well, if what this thread is all about is true, and what the evidence seems to point to, we will find that out before too long. lol :P

Modifié par MWMike2011, 19 novembre 2012 - 03:44 .


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One more story about the Shepard.

Nah, it's just DLC advertisement.

Or is it?

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Still no Omega trailer? They're really hyping this $15 story aren't they..

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

One more story about the Shepard.

Nah, it's just DLC advertisement.

Or is it?


It probably is, but hopefully DLC advertisement about IT.