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[CmdrShep80]

MaximizedAction wrote...

mrgc wrote...

I thought some of you might like to see this.
https://twitter.com/GambleMike
We're dropping a brand new small DLC tomorrow. Maybe something you can use while retaking Omega on November 27th?

So now they're just dropping DLC without any big announcements...I'm surprised. Is this the shape of DLC droppings to come?

for things like weapon packs. It doesn't need huge fanfare

[BleedingUranium]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

mrgc wrote...

I thought some of you might like to see this.
https://twitter.com/GambleMike
We're dropping a brand new small DLC tomorrow. Maybe something you can use while retaking Omega on November 27th?

So now they're just dropping DLC without any big announcements...I'm surprised. Is this the shape of DLC droppings to come?

for things like weapon packs. It doesn't need huge fanfare

They didn't even do this for the last one; no warning whatsoever

[CmdrShep80]

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, this is interesting: https://twitter.com/...668914273443840

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Wow it looks to be an even split. Bet the game will have both parts in the end

[Bardox9]

IMO, the ending wasn't indoctrination. More like a... telepathic link of sorts with that catalyst thing. The same as the dream sequences. The part up to when Shep and Anderson sit and look out the window and Anderson dies and Shep looks at the bullet hole he/she got form that last marauder I think is real. My theory is Shep passed out from blood lose and everything from when Hackett's voice comes up to the ending is another dream sequence where the catalyst thing can communicate with Shepard and make out a land scape or a better word might "dream" scape. Your choice determines what the crucible does.

The control ending copies Shepards memories or engrams, but the process fries Shepards neural pathways and he/she dies. The Synthesis ending copies his/her entire genome for the... I guess "rewrite beam" is as good a term as any, but in his/her weakened condition it distablizes his/her entire genetic structure and he/she dies. The destruction ending where Shep shoots that huge cable symbolizes exactly that, destruction so the crucible destroys every synthetic, the relays, and the citadel. The do nothing ending just shuts down the crucible, it never fires, and the repears continue on with the harvest.

Some say that during that last gasp at the end of the destruction ending proves Shep never left london and it was all a hallucination/dream/whatever, but the presidium had plent of masonry. He/She may have just fallen down to the council chamber of what ever was below that platform. Plus he/she was completely surrounded by stone work during that gasp. Over, under, and around his/her body. If he/she had just been blasted and never left that spot then it would just be a crater under him/her.

That's my two cents anyway.

Modifié par Bardox9, 20 novembre 2012 - 05:53 .

[CmdrShep80]

leonia42 wrote...

So a weapon pack that may contain Collectors weapons just in time for a DLC that doesn't feature Collectors. Seems legit.

you know if it really is collector weapons. What reason do we really need them for?  Unless they're putting collectors in Omega?  I always found the collector weapons to be great against the collectors

Edit - not only that but given they gave the collectors a test run in mp and they're an awesome villain to have. Plus what works best against collectors? A team of Biotics perhaps?

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:00 .

[BleedingUranium]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

So a weapon pack that may contain Collectors weapons just in time for a DLC that doesn't feature Collectors. Seems legit.

you know if it really is collector weapons. What reason do we really need them for?  Unless they're putting collectors in Omega?  I always found the collector weapons to be great against the collectors

I'm thinking there won't be Collectors in Omega, and they're saving them for the post-end DLC, with Harbinger having his comeback.

If it is a weapon pack, the only three guns not in SP right now are the three Collector guns. And Gamble was using a CAR in one of the demos, so unless he used the save editor...

[Eryri]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

So a weapon pack that may contain Collectors weapons just in time for a DLC that doesn't feature Collectors. Seems legit.

you know if it really is collector weapons. What reason do we really need them for?  Unless they're putting collectors in Omega?  I always found the collector weapons to be great against the collectors

Didn't Gamble tweet that there were "no Collectors in Omega"? However, he didn't state that we spend the whole dlc on Omega though. Particularly when we have a certain special red relay next door. 

[Eryri]

Bardox9 wrote...

Some say that during that last gasp at the end of the destruction ending proves Shep never left london and it was all a hallucination/dream/whatever, but the presidium had plent of masonry. He/She may have just fallen down to the council chamber of what ever was below that platform. Plus he/she was completely surrounded by stone work during that gasp. Over, under, and around his/her body. If he/she had just been blasted and never left that spot then it would just be a crater under him/her.

That's my two cents anyway.

First of all, welcome to the IT thread. Always nice to have a new viewpoint.

Regarding Shep "falling down to the council chamber" - the problem there is the gravity is all messed up. Shepard is effectively walking around upside down relative to the normal orientation of the presidium tower, on the bottom of the structure. It's unclear which way he would "fall", were the gravity to be turned off. (This is assuming the Catalyst scene is taking place in reality.)

Also it's not really clear what the presidium is made of, but heavy and brittle concrete would seem to be an odd choice of building material for a space station. And the location with TIM and Anderson seems to be made of metal, so if Shepard is still there and unconcious as you suggested in your post, then there shouldn't be any masonry.

Modifié par Eryri, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:16 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Bardox9 wrote...

IMO, the ending wasn't indoctrination. More like a... telepathic link of sorts with that catalyst thing. The same as the dream sequences. The part up to when Shep and Anderson sit and look out the window and Anderson dies and Shep looks at the bullet hole he/she got form that last marauder I think is real. My theory is Shep passed out from blood lose and everything from when Hackett's voice comes up to the ending is another dream sequence where the catalyst thing can communicate with Shepard and make out a land scape or a better word might "dream" scape. Your choice determines what the crucible does.

The control ending copies Shepards memories or engrams, but the process fries Shepards neural pathways and he/she dies. The Synthesis ending copies his/her entire genome for the... I guess "rewrite beam" is as good a term as any, but in his/her weakened condition it distablizes his/her entire genetic structure and he/she dies. The destruction ending where Shep shoots that huge cable symbolizes exactly that, destruction so the crucible destroys every synthetic, the relays, and the citadel. The do nothing ending just shuts down the crucible, it never fires, and the repears continue on with the harvest.

Some say that during that last gasp at the end of the destruction ending proves Shep never left london and it was all a hallucination/dream/whatever, but the presidium had plent of masonry. He/She may have just fallen down to the council chamber of what ever was below that platform. Plus he/she was completely surrounded by stone work during that gasp. Over, under, and around his/her body. If he/she had just been blasted and never left that spot then it would just be a crater under him/her.

That's my two cents anyway.

Except the Marauder clealy hits Shepard shoulder, not his side.

Also do you realize how far Shepard would have to fall to end up in the Council chamber? Remember how far we climbed up the tower to reach it in ME1? Well the decision chamber is at the bottom of the tower in the opposite end to the Council chamber.

Also should I mention that if Destroy truly destroys all machinery then every piece of shielding and life support on the Citadel is gone meaning Shepard is dead anyway in the breathe scene if it is litteral on the Citadel.

Beyond that there is no such thing a Telepathy as Ann Bryson clearly stated in the Leviathan dlc when she spoke of how the Rachni and Levithan communicated across vast stretches of space.

Beyond that Indoctrination is known to take the shape of "Oily Shadows," can create Illusions, manipulate people into trusting enemies and a long list of other symptoms allmost all of which Shepard exhibit in some form or other.

Also no matter what you say you are trusting the leader of the Reapers, a race which has been systematically wiping out the species of the universe for millions of years and who is quite capable of turning friends against enemies and creating Illusions through their Indoctrination. You are trusting the leader of this race on his words alone, throwing away everything your trusted friends have told you throughout the years to perform forcibly alter (in Synthesis case) the entire galaxy against their will.

Do you not see the problem with that?

But anyway you are entitled to your own opinion. I just think it is really reaching to try and explain it of as "telepathy" when we know the Reapers have something called Indoctrination which can create Illsuions, complete Illusions as well acccording to what we saw in Leviathan.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:19 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

MWMike2011 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh wait I forgot the brat's bs was disproven a long time ago.

Disproven for real, officially, or disproven on here?

Disproven on here, but really the Catalyst has so many lines which contradict what we actually see throughout the games that it is hard to take him seriusly. Like how he is supposedly supposed to preserve all Organic and Synthetic life yet makes sure that either the Quarians or the Geth will be wiped out completely, that is until Shepard interferes off course though it still easily ends with the death of one side.

Or how the Reapers have been using Synthetics as a tool to attack Organics despite the Catalyst claim that they are protecting Organics from Synthethics.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

demersel wrote...

401 Kill wrote...



He uploaded code from the Reapers to enhance the Geths ability, he didn't gain full understanding of Organics. At least from my understanding, Legion showed signs of organic feelings since before ME2: his N7 armor.

That's the part that bothers me, I don't care about full understanding of organics, i think that this is a big load of bull****. 

When does taking something from the reapers to enhance own abilities worked well in the long run? 
And BTW, I disagree with curing the genophage, and the way it happened  (just like that, by a push of a button). And so did Mordin BTW. He just admitted that the situation demands the genophage cured at once - that is why he was doing it. That, and guilt. and we know that you shouldn't do anything hasty out of guilt. Wasn't it guilt that the reapers tried to exploit in shepard's dreams and the whole boy thing? 

Thanix cannons are reverse engineered from Sovereign and have proven immensely effective.

The difference in the Thanix cannon and presumably in what Legion is doing is that they are not simply using or beeing handed Reaper tehcnology in its orginal form (if the code was in its Original form the Geth would be under Reaper control again) instead they build upon the principles established by the Reaper tehcnology creating something which is absed of the Reaper technology but also their own creation.

I think someone comapred it to a toaster made of uranium. Sure you can use the toaster as it is, but it wont be healthy, but you could also design a new toaster based on the original toasters design just not made from uranium.

I think that is the key difference.

[ChristianHarper]

Yeah, sorry Bardox. I ain't buying your take on it.

All this speculation... What is it all really about? Answer = Shepard.

From the opening scene of Mass Effect, Anderson and Udina are discussing how important Shepard is in representing humanity to the council as a Spectre. In ME2, Shepard comes back from the dead, and we learn how Shepard is more than just another soldier. He is a symbol. In ME3, Leviathan tells Shepard that all of his victories are more than chance and that the Reapers see him as a threat. Not to mention little things like defeating Sovereign, the Collectors, Cerberus and killing multiple Reapers.

Harbinger wants Shepard. He IS unique, unlike anyone that Harbinger has encountered before. Maybe that's why they were building a human Reaper, when all other Reapers look like Leviathans.

All I know is that Shepard truly is an anomaly, and that IT makes the most sense to me.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

ChristianHarper wrote...

Yeah, sorry Bardox. I ain't buying your take on it.

All this speculation... What is it all really about? Answer = Shepard.

From the opening scene of Mass Effect, Anderson and Udina are discussing how important Shepard is in representing humanity to the council as a Spectre. In ME2, Shepard comes back from the dead, and we learn how Shepard is more than just another soldier. He is a symbol. In ME3, Leviathan tells Shepard that all of his victories are more than chance and that the Reapers see him as a threat. Not to mention little things like defeating Sovereign, the Collectors, Cerberus and killing multiple Reapers.

Harbinger wants Shepard. He IS unique, unlike anyone that Harbinger has encountered before. Maybe that's why they were building a human Reaper, when all other Reapers look like Leviathans.

All I know is that Shepard truly is an anomaly, and that IT makes the most sense to me.

Regarding the Human Reaper, remember what we fought was hardly the length of a full size Sovereign class Reaper (2 km) so it stands to reason that the human looking part is simply the core with the cuttlefish shell beeing added around it later as it reaches its full size.

[UrgedDuke]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

ChristianHarper wrote...

Yeah, sorry Bardox. I ain't buying your take on it.

All this speculation... What is it all really about? Answer = Shepard.

From the opening scene of Mass Effect, Anderson and Udina are discussing how important Shepard is in representing humanity to the council as a Spectre. In ME2, Shepard comes back from the dead, and we learn how Shepard is more than just another soldier. He is a symbol. In ME3, Leviathan tells Shepard that all of his victories are more than chance and that the Reapers see him as a threat. Not to mention little things like defeating Sovereign, the Collectors, Cerberus and killing multiple Reapers.

Harbinger wants Shepard. He IS unique, unlike anyone that Harbinger has encountered before. Maybe that's why they were building a human Reaper, when all other Reapers look like Leviathans.

All I know is that Shepard truly is an anomaly, and that IT makes the most sense to me.

Regarding the Human Reaper, remember what we fought was hardly the length of a full size Sovereign class Reaper (2 km) so it stands to reason that the human looking part is simply the core with the cuttlefish shell beeing added around it later as it reaches its full size.

Cuttlefish? I always thought that the reapers looked like giant beetles

[Fur28]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

ChristianHarper wrote...

Yeah, sorry Bardox. I ain't buying your take on it.

All this speculation... What is it all really about? Answer = Shepard.

From the opening scene of Mass Effect, Anderson and Udina are discussing how important Shepard is in representing humanity to the council as a Spectre. In ME2, Shepard comes back from the dead, and we learn how Shepard is more than just another soldier. He is a symbol. In ME3, Leviathan tells Shepard that all of his victories are more than chance and that the Reapers see him as a threat. Not to mention little things like defeating Sovereign, the Collectors, Cerberus and killing multiple Reapers.

Harbinger wants Shepard. He IS unique, unlike anyone that Harbinger has encountered before. Maybe that's why they were building a human Reaper, when all other Reapers look like Leviathans.

All I know is that Shepard truly is an anomaly, and that IT makes the most sense to me.

Regarding the Human Reaper, remember what we fought was hardly the length of a full size Sovereign class Reaper (2 km) so it stands to reason that the human looking part is simply the core with the cuttlefish shell beeing added around it later as it reaches its full size.

I dont believe that the reaper larva would´ve used a shell, i think the idea of different reapers was scrathed because of time and resources but well...

That reminds me that in ME1 Sovereign had rooms inside where Saren had a seat, Benezia and i suppose a few geths i suppose, how many hollow space do you think a reaper has?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Fur28 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

ChristianHarper wrote...

Yeah, sorry Bardox. I ain't buying your take on it.

All this speculation... What is it all really about? Answer = Shepard.

From the opening scene of Mass Effect, Anderson and Udina are discussing how important Shepard is in representing humanity to the council as a Spectre. In ME2, Shepard comes back from the dead, and we learn how Shepard is more than just another soldier. He is a symbol. In ME3, Leviathan tells Shepard that all of his victories are more than chance and that the Reapers see him as a threat. Not to mention little things like defeating Sovereign, the Collectors, Cerberus and killing multiple Reapers.

Harbinger wants Shepard. He IS unique, unlike anyone that Harbinger has encountered before. Maybe that's why they were building a human Reaper, when all other Reapers look like Leviathans.

All I know is that Shepard truly is an anomaly, and that IT makes the most sense to me.

Regarding the Human Reaper, remember what we fought was hardly the length of a full size Sovereign class Reaper (2 km) so it stands to reason that the human looking part is simply the core with the cuttlefish shell beeing added around it later as it reaches its full size.

I dont believe that the reaper larva would´ve used a shell, i think the idea of different reapers was scrathed because of time and resources but well...

That reminds me that in ME1 Sovereign had rooms inside where Saren had a seat, Benezia and i suppose a few geths i suppose, how many hollow space do you think a reaper has?

Quite a bit as we see in the Derelict Reaper.

But I still believe that the Human Reaper larva was well, just a larva which would later get shaped into something closer to the original Reaper form. It supports what we also see in the cnematic near the end of ME2 where despite having different shapes the Reapers we see all follow a certain base design. I dont see why the Human Reaper would be radically different especially since it was clearly far from finished.

[CmdrShep80]

ChristianHarper wrote...

Yeah, sorry Bardox. I ain't buying your take on it.

All this speculation... What is it all really about? Answer = Shepard.

From the opening scene of Mass Effect, Anderson and Udina are discussing how important Shepard is in representing humanity to the council as a Spectre. In ME2, Shepard comes back from the dead, and we learn how Shepard is more than just another soldier. He is a symbol. In ME3, Leviathan tells Shepard that all of his victories are more than chance and that the Reapers see him as a threat. Not to mention little things like defeating Sovereign, the Collectors, Cerberus and killing multiple Reapers.

Harbinger wants Shepard. He IS unique, unlike anyone that Harbinger has encountered before. Maybe that's why they were building a human Reaper, when all other Reapers look like Leviathans.

All I know is that Shepard truly is an anomaly, and that IT makes the most sense to me.

i would love to know more about the context behind the ME1 game prologue. Why Shepard? How did they know Shepard would be the best choice?  What are they saying he would be the best at?  Looking back on it I have to wonder will we have a dlc explaining this?

[demersel]

If ttodays' DLC does not contain collector weapons, then we will get them as pickups during the gameplay. And that means we get to take them from collectrors, and that means we get to fight them. But we will get collector weapons in the DLC - in the Omega Demo Mac alredy had collector's rifle at the time he started the demo, so you get it before ever going to omega. However why would they release this weapon DLC at all? Cause if not release it at a collector rifle in the Demo would be a 100% giveaway of collector's in omega DLC. ))

[CmdrShep80]

@pur28 and everyone- the derelict reaper makes you wonder where all the organic parts of the leviathan went to...

[CmdrShep80]

Well today is now tomorrow. No updates yet. Looks like I have to wait for BioWare to wake up (pun intended)

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 20 novembre 2012 - 08:17 .

[CmdrShep80]

LMAO look at what I found on BioWare's official ME3 videos.  They took someone's submission and posted it.  It is titled:

Mass Effect 3 "Literal Trailer"

We should post this in the literal threads LMAO

[demersel]

It is really sad everyone just ignored my comment about ash sparks being in almost every trailer since arrival...

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@pur28 and everyone- the derelict reaper makes you wonder where all the organic parts of the leviathan went to...

We dont know if the Derelict Reaper was a Leviathan Reaper. Could have been another race.

As for where the Organic parts went...well the Human Reaper Larva dident look too organic despite beeing made from that goo stuff.

[BleedingUranium]

demersel wrote...

It is really sad everyone just ignored my comment about ash sparks being in almost every trailer since arrival...

Sorry, I was catching up when I saw that. Yeah, that is really interesting. You know what else is interesting? The kid is in every single ME3 trailer ever. All of them. Even if it's just the shuttles blowing up. Aaaaaall of them.

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

demersel wrote...

401 Kill wrote...



He uploaded code from the Reapers to enhance the Geths ability, he didn't gain full understanding of Organics. At least from my understanding, Legion showed signs of organic feelings since before ME2: his N7 armor.

That's the part that bothers me, I don't care about full understanding of organics, i think that this is a big load of bull****.

When does taking something from the reapers to enhance own abilities worked well in the long run?
And BTW, I disagree with curing the genophage, and the way it happened (just like that, by a push of a button). And so did Mordin BTW. He just admitted that the situation demands the genophage cured at once - that is why he was doing it. That, and guilt. and we know that you shouldn't do anything hasty out of guilt. Wasn't it guilt that the reapers tried to exploit in shepard's dreams and the whole boy thing?

Thanix cannons are reverse engineered from Sovereign and have proven immensely effective.

The difference in the Thanix cannon and presumably in what Legion is doing is that they are not simply using or beeing handed Reaper tehcnology in its orginal form (if the code was in its Original form the Geth would be under Reaper control again) instead they build upon the principles established by the Reaper tehcnology creating something which is absed of the Reaper technology but also their own creation.

I think someone comapred it to a toaster made of uranium. Sure you can use the toaster as it is, but it wont be healthy, but you could also design a new toaster based on the original toasters design just not made from uranium.

I think that is the key difference.

That was me

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 20 novembre 2012 - 08:35 .

[CmdrShep80]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@pur28 and everyone- the derelict reaper makes you wonder where all the organic parts of the leviathan went to...

We dont know if the Derelict Reaper was a Leviathan Reaper. Could have been another race.

As for where the Organic parts went...well the Human Reaper Larva dident look too organic despite beeing made from that goo stuff.

Yep but where/what does the goo get turned into in the end?  fuel?  energy?  or better yet, synthesis...it becomes servo-oil

EDIT - darn, I missed the top by a half a second, lucky you up there LOL

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 20 novembre 2012 - 08:35 .