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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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EXMEFan wrote...

Games stop being nerds only like in 1992......but to worship a theory about a MERE video game when the game has an ending, even a patched ending, is nerdy.

Coming up with all this stuff when Bioware has said otherwise....


Who's more stupid, a fool, or the fool that listens to him? 

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EXMEFan wrote...

Coming up with all this stuff when Bioware has said otherwise....

When did they?
Some links would be nice.

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You guys don't even understand the ending.

They Reapers didn't HARVEST beings and let them grow into the next civilization. They killed ADVANCE civilization, to let the younger ones grow.

Thats why the Prometheans raised Asari and taught them, but Promethians are dead, and the Asari were still alive.

They prometheans were turned into TOOLS to help aid in the next 50,000 years of destruction, to let the younger species grow.

This is their only plan. Shepard stopped the cycle, point blank period.

The game HAS an ending, it HAS a resolution, and you guys are making one up by saying the resolution the game gives you doesn't exist.

You guys are saying what Bioware is doing with the game, when they already TOLD YOU the ending IS AS IS. They even made a FREE DLC PATCH so it can flesh it out some more.

You guys are wrong by that one basic fact, they PATCHED THE ENDING, FIXED IT, FOR FREE.

Prometheans?
http://t3.gstatic.co...Rxbdgjypqp1tr6g
edit: Bravo byne for thinking the same thing i did when reading that.Posted Image


Blame the spell checker, now debate what I said, you can't....

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EXMEFan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

You people are way too nerdy.


>posting on a video game forum
>calling others nerdy

You should go tell the pot he's black, too.


A hundred creds says that reference went so far over his head that he can't even see the contrails?


Games stop being nerds only like in 1992......but to worship a theory about a MERE video game when the game has an ending, even a patched ending, is nerdy.

Coming up with all this stuff when Bioware has said otherwise....


*tosses Rif a 100 credit chit*

I must have missed the part where we worshipped the theory.

Anyhow, I'm going to stop paying attention to you now. I should have stopped when you said the prometheans were in ME.

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Arashi08 wrote...

Just ignore it and it will go away...

Ignoring it is way too boring, though!

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Anyway, for what it's worth, the only thing that seeds doubt in my mind regarding IT is the wait. It just seems like they've dragged on too long with not enough clues post-EC. Put me in the "I want to believe" camp but someone once told me to expect the worst so that I may be pleasantly surprised later. Call it "IT-Agnostic" if you will.

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demersel wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Games stop being nerds only like in 1992......but to worship a theory about a MERE video game when the game has an ending, even a patched ending, is nerdy.

Coming up with all this stuff when Bioware has said otherwise....


Who's more stupid, a fool, or the fool that listens to him? 

What does it matter? Both are fools, meaning both failed in at least some way.

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demersel wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Games stop being nerds only like in 1992......but to worship a theory about a MERE video game when the game has an ending, even a patched ending, is nerdy.

Coming up with all this stuff when Bioware has said otherwise....


Who's more stupid, a fool, or the fool that listens to him? 

Hooray for Star Wars paraphrasing.

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leonia42 wrote...

Anyway, for what it's worth, the only thing that seeds doubt in my mind regarding IT is the wait. It just seems like they've dragged on too long with not enough clues post-EC. Put me in the "I want to believe" camp but someone once told me to expect the worse so that I may be pleasantly surprised later.


Not enough clues post EC?? What are you talking about? and what was Leviathan then? What about the Retaliation? 

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leonia42 wrote...

Anyway, for what it's worth, the only thing that seeds doubt in my mind regarding IT is the wait. It just seems like they've dragged on too long with not enough clues post-EC. Put me in the "I want to believe" camp but someone once told me to expect the worst so that I may be pleasantly surprised later. Call it "IT-Agnostic" if you will.

It would have made most sense to realease an IT DLC at the point when the hype was highest, not when it was low and resentment started to settle in. 
If BioWare really intended the IT, they really missed a perfect opportunity to reap loads of fame.

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Leviathan gave us a new perspective on IT but it didn't do anything except add the one line with the kid. The results of the DLC still seem.. unknown at this time. We're still going down the rabbit hole and there's no light at the end of it yet.

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hukbum wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Coming up with all this stuff when Bioware has said otherwise....

When did they?
Some links would be nice.


When they released the EC DLC

they obviously supported the ending in every single way, and closed all loop holes they wanted to close.

If somebody was indoctrinated, that DLC would have had it in there, there were many of you who had hoped it would been in there,  and it wasn't.

End of story. You can't interpret a story that has been resolved.

You guys give Bioware TOO much credit on this one, and its funny, you forget they are run by EA now.  This game isn't Baldur's Gate deep.

The endings were Paragon, Renegade, and or Neutral.....like they have always been.  You guys are making it out to be Resist Indoctrination, Indoctrinated, and Kind but not really Indoctrinated

And thats very stupid, because the game doesn't hint at this.............it doesn't even focus on indoctrination with Shepard, it does with the Illusive man, and you can easily tell by the way the illusive man was acting he was indoctrinated.

Shepard was acting like Shepard the whole time.....

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leonia42 wrote...

Leviathan gave us a new perspective on IT but it didn't do anything except add the one line with the kid. The results of the DLC still seem.. unknown at this time. We're still going down the rabbit hole and there's no light at the end of it yet.


So the fact that every single character in the DLC was either indoctrianted or enthralled means absolutely nothing? 

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The wait doesn't make me doubt IT, it makes me doubt BW's intentions. I've given up hope they're going to wrap up the story with DLC. I think they're just going to keep adding fuel to the fire before revealing it in Mass Effect 4: EA Wants Moar Money.

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demersel wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Leviathan gave us a new perspective on IT but it didn't do anything except add the one line with the kid. The results of the DLC still seem.. unknown at this time. We're still going down the rabbit hole and there's no light at the end of it yet.


So the fact that every single character in the DLC was either indoctrianted or enthralled means absolutely nothing? 

Not everyone. Dr. Bryson(the father) wasn't, or those two C-Sec guys, or your squadmates.Posted Image

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At this point, yes. All we have is a new form of Indoctrination to look out for but that gets us no where (at this point in time). Maybe future DLC will expand on that, maybe not. Who knows? As it is now, the Leviathans were introduced and enthrallment was shown to us but we can't draw any conclusions from it. We can rub our chins and go "hmm".

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demersel wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Leviathan gave us a new perspective on IT but it didn't do anything except add the one line with the kid. The results of the DLC still seem.. unknown at this time. We're still going down the rabbit hole and there's no light at the end of it yet.


So the fact that every single character in the DLC was either indoctrianted or enthralled means absolutely nothing? 


Didn't it start with an email from Hackett?  If so, inb4 Hackett is Indoctrinated! Mk. DCCVII.

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In the end you guy's willingness to be butt humped out of money to see the true ending is funny.

Lets say the crap was true, that means you had to buy all the DLC plus the main game just to find out what really happened?

I doubt Bioware would have done that to their reputation. You guys are void of any realistic reasoning. I wonder how many more crazy things you guys believe, game related or not...

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Well, I just watched a clip from Paragon Lost, and all I can say is... I don't think I'm going to be buying it. There's stylized and then there's... this.

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Dwailing wrote...

Well, I just watched a clip from Paragon Lost, and all I can say is... I don't think I'm going to be buying it. There's stylized and then there's... this.


It's anime.  No good can come of it.  It's like Reaper tech, but worse.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Not everyone. Dr. Bryson(the father) wasn't, or those two C-Sec guys, or your squadmates.Posted Image


Now, who's being naive here? :D  Dr. Bryson was indoctrinated by the piece of sovereign to push the search for leviathan forward. It is the only reason that leviathan killed him - cause he could not enthrall him not to look for leviathan. As for C-sec guys - we can't really be sure about them - the whole citadel is acting strange in ME3 and in Leviathan they give further hints to that - first, there is at least one active piece of sovereign on the citadel, then there are those red flowers. 

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OMGZ HE WAS INDOCTRINATED AND IM ONE OF THE ONLY FEW PPLZ SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW IT BECUZ BIOWARE ONLY CARES ABOUT PPL WHO READ TOO MUCH INTO A GAME AND NOT THE AVERAGE GAMER AWWWWWWWWWWWRGGGGGGGGGGGHZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

LMFAO, this is too funny. I bet Bioware is like "They really think we indoctrinated Shepard? The stuff people come up with"

I bet they feel offended that their writing sucks so bad that people are concluding this.

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Rifneno wrote...

Didn't it start with an email from Hackett?  If so, inb4 Hackett is Indoctrinated! Mk. DCCVII.


As I said. every single character. :innocent:

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

"Tell me another story about the Shepard."  "It's getting late but OK... one more story."

I think we just don't have the entire picture yet.  Optimistic?  Possibly.  Glass half full instead of half empty?  Maybe.  But let's see how we both feel 12-18 months down the line, when ME3's DLC cycle is complete and we have all the pieces of the puzzle.

I get the feeling that Bioware is still holding something back, that they've a few revelations in store for us yet.


That line from Buzz, together with the datapad at the end saying: "Good job at finishing our crappy now buy lots of DLC!" was just EAware's shameless DLC promotion. They want you to buy all them DLCz lolz0rs!

No but seriously, I have no problem with people believing in the "puzzle theory". I do have a problem with companies selling incomplete products however and forcing us to buy all the DLC first before we finally get the last part of the product that we should have had in the first place. That's just wrong. For that reason I hope that the IT or PT is not true, as I can't imagine a company being that much corrupt that they would do such a thing, not even EA.

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Rifneno wrote...
It's anime.  No good can come of it.  It's like Reaper tech, but worse.

Blasphemy!

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 20 novembre 2012 - 05:20 .