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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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demersel wrote...

You guys seem to miss the point of the small DLC being an appearance pack. It is not a weapon pack. It does not add collector weapons into SP. Yet in the Omega demo, Shepard uses collector rifle so it is likely to be a pick up. And that means collectors as enemies in Omega DLC. (unless they release another weapon DLC pack at the same time with Omega)

That is a HUGE leap of logic right there. 

DLC pack is character appearance pack = collectors in Omega? 

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demersel wrote...

You guys seem to miss the point of the small DLC being an appearance pack. It is not a weapon pack. It does not add collector weapons into SP. Yet in the Omega demo, Shepard uses collector rifle so it is likely to be a pick up. And that means collectors as enemies in Omega DLC. (unless they release another weapon DLC pack at the same time with Omega)


As much as I want this to be true, the cynic in me has to say that maybe he was using the version people got from ordering the CE edition of the guide? After all, he IS the producer.

Then again, he COULD be dropping a subtle hint, but I think that might be stretching it.

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Hm, well there we go. Like I said, I don't know much about the whole process.

I only know this because I talked with my friend about it. He's a Crytek employee, so I suppose he'd know that stuff.

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demersel wrote...

You guys seem to miss the point of the small DLC being an appearance pack. It is not a weapon pack. It does not add collector weapons into SP. Yet in the Omega demo, Shepard uses collector rifle so it is likely to be a pick up. And that means collectors as enemies in Omega DLC. (unless they release another weapon DLC pack at the same time with Omega)


what might be more important is what is in those megabytes that were installed besides new clothes

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I still don't understand how the Extended Cut is almost as big as Omega which has huge amounts of gameplay and cutscenes from the looks of things. I know EC has more than one outcome to address in the endings but.. damn.

I mean I'm not a professional when it comes to knowing how much content fits in a certain capacity. Hell, I don't even know if high res cutscenes take up that much space or not but to me it just seems weird that a DLC that only adds cutscenes and isn't even 30 minutes long is as big as a 4 hour DLC.

Pre-rendered cutscenes take up lots of space.


This is true. However, what I find rather strange is that BioWare decided to make all the epilogues of the EX pre-rendered movies. They could have simply program a slideshow made out of pictures, because that's what the EC really is, a slideshow of pretty pictures. They could have saved a lot of time and space if they simply used a series of pictures and played those in a slideshow. That way the EC wouldn't have been bigger than just a couple of megabytes, 300MB at most, and the quality of the images would have been just as good, if not better.

But no, BioWare decided to convert the slideshows to actual full HD 1080p videos, resulting in HUGE file-sizes. :pinched:

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estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

You guys seem to miss the point of the small DLC being an appearance pack. It is not a weapon pack. It does not add collector weapons into SP. Yet in the Omega demo, Shepard uses collector rifle so it is likely to be a pick up. And that means collectors as enemies in Omega DLC. (unless they release another weapon DLC pack at the same time with Omega)

That is a HUGE leap of logic right there. 

DLC pack is character appearance pack = collectors in Omega? 


Its a character apearence pack?? That would be pointless seeing as squadies aren't allowed in Omega... "Com'on B'ware!"

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401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

You guys seem to miss the point of the small DLC being an appearance pack. It is not a weapon pack. It does not add collector weapons into SP. Yet in the Omega demo, Shepard uses collector rifle so it is likely to be a pick up. And that means collectors as enemies in Omega DLC. (unless they release another weapon DLC pack at the same time with Omega)

That is a HUGE leap of logic right there. 

DLC pack is character appearance pack = collectors in Omega? 


Its a character apearence pack?? That would be pointless seeing as squadies aren't allowed in Omega... "Com'on B'ware!"

Yup, it's quite pointless, if you ask me. However, Shepard does get new aromor with the pack, so I suppose that helps a bit.

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Wait a sec..

Was the Collector Assault Rifle even ever released as Single player?

I did some looking into it after my previous comment and it appears that from pre ordering the special edition of the Art of the ME Universe that it was an MP only weapon..

It says it's N/A for the singleplayer on the wiki.

Maybe demersel is onto something here after all?

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@hanar did anyone ever look at the content of the EC files? Would be interesting if the large size wasn't because of the pictures.

@401- BioWare has a plan. We'll know some of it in less than 7 days

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Does Barla Von appear in Mass Effect 3 if you haven't done LotSB? What about the quest he provides?

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Is the pack available for purchase? What is it called?

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

Wait a sec..

Was the Collector Assault Rifle even ever released as Single player?

I did some looking into it after my previous comment and it appears that from pre ordering the special edition of the Art of the ME Universe that it was an MP only weapon..

It says it's N/A for the singleplayer on the wiki.

Maybe demersel is onto something here after all?

Consider this: We all know that Cerberus made a deal with Aria to use the omega IV relay. What if Cerberus obtained a collector assault rifle from the remains of the base, utilized its technology, and then decided to mass produce it?

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...
This is true. However, what I find rather strange is that BioWare decided to make all the epilogues of the EX pre-rendered movies. They could have simply program a slideshow made out of pictures, because that's what the EC really is, a slideshow of pretty pictures. They could have saved a lot of time and space if they simply used a series of pictures and played those in a slideshow. That way the EC wouldn't have been bigger than just a couple of megabytes, 300MB at most, and the quality of the images would have been just as good, if not better.

But no, BioWare decided to convert the slideshows to actual full HD 1080p videos, resulting in HUGE file-sizes. :pinched:


Incorrect, EC is far from just a slideshow. There are multiple cutscenes in them, for every ending. Low EMS also had new cutscenes.

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Is the pack available for purchase? What is it called?


In Origin at least. Alternate Appearance Pack 1.

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estebanus wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Wait a sec..

Was the Collector Assault Rifle even ever released as Single player?

I did some looking into it after my previous comment and it appears that from pre ordering the special edition of the Art of the ME Universe that it was an MP only weapon..

It says it's N/A for the singleplayer on the wiki.

Maybe demersel is onto something here after all?

Consider this: We all know that Cerberus made a deal with Aria to use the omega IV relay. What if Cerberus obtained a collector assault rifle from the remains of the base, utilized its technology, and then decided to mass produce it?


Still, it means the gun IS in the dlc, which is neat in it's own right because I think it's awesome in the MP.

Either way, what you said could also mean that they'll definitely touch on the whole Collector base thing.. hopefully we find out exactly what TIM wanted from the Collector Base.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

@hanar did anyone ever look at the content of the EC files? Would be interesting if the large size wasn't because of the pictures.

@401- BioWare has a plan. We'll know some of it in less than 7 days


If their plan is to abandon the squad, I just might abandon the game.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Wait a sec..

Was the Collector Assault Rifle even ever released as Single player?

I did some looking into it after my previous comment and it appears that from pre ordering the special edition of the Art of the ME Universe that it was an MP only weapon..

It says it's N/A for the singleplayer on the wiki.

Maybe demersel is onto something here after all?

Consider this: We all know that Cerberus made a deal with Aria to use the omega IV relay. What if Cerberus obtained a collector assault rifle from the remains of the base, utilized its technology, and then decided to mass produce it?


Still, it means the gun IS in the dlc, which is neat in it's own right because I think it's awesome in the MP.

Either way, what you said could also mean that they'll definitely touch on the whole Collector base thing.. hopefully we find out exactly what TIM wanted from the Collector Base.

Oh, I'm quite sure we'll find out more about the collector base. I wasn't as much negating the collector assault rifle not existing as much as trying to find a more logical explanation than that the collectors arrived on Omega, even though it has been stated by BioWare that the collectors won't reappear outside MP.

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Humph, so the apearence pack has nothing for Tali?

No purchase from me then.

The Extended cut was bigger than Leviathan, so it is kinda hard to imagine how- seeing as the Extended Cut has less than 45mins of content, while Leviathan has around 3 hours.

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I'm sure there will be an alt appearance for Tali eventually.. it was only Alternate Appearance Pack 1 after all. There's definitely going to be a Pack 2 with Tali, James, Kaidan and Ashley

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'm sure there will be an alt appearance for Tali eventually.. it was only Alternate Appearance Pack 1 after all. There's definitely going to be a Pack 2 with Tali, James, Kaidan and Ashley


don"t forget javik. new Prothean armor has been made for Javik, by Liara.

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masster blaster wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'm sure there will be an alt appearance for Tali eventually.. it was only Alternate Appearance Pack 1 after all. There's definitely going to be a Pack 2 with Tali, James, Kaidan and Ashley


don"t forget javik. new Prothean armor has been made for Javik, by Liara.

How do you know this?

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I dunno about Javik because not everyone has Javik.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

@hanar did anyone ever look at the content of the EC files? Would be interesting if the large size wasn't because of the pictures.


Yes we did look at the content of the EC files, and the main reason why the EC is so big is because of what I said earlier: the slideshows aren't just pictures played after each other, it's an actual full HD video-file! Which is what makes up the largest amount of the EC file-size. The file size of the EC could have been greatly reduced if they decided to render the picture slideshow in real-time, instead of using a pre-rendered video-file containing the slideshow. 

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Incorrect, EC is far from just a slideshow. There are multiple cutscenes in them, for every ending. Low EMS also had new cutscenes.


There are some new cutscenes, but they barely make up half of the EC file size. The biggest files are the slideshow epilogues, which are HUGE video files. This is rather dumb, because the size could have been much smaller if the slide-show was rendered in real-time, using just moving pictures, not an entire video-file.

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'm sure there will be an alt appearance for Tali eventually.. it was only Alternate Appearance Pack 1 after all. There's definitely going to be a Pack 2 with Tali, James, Kaidan and Ashley


don"t forget javik. new Prothean armor has been made for Javik, by Liara.

How do you know this?


He's just making things up, obviously. Javik would never wear armor made by primitives.

Plus, DLC characters didnt get new armor in ME2, doubt they will in ME3.

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If Cerberus is mass producing Collector weapons, why don't they use them at any other point

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spotlessvoid wrote...

If Cerberus is mass producing Collector weapons, why don't they use them at any other point


Because they have the AutoMattock, which is super awesome, of course.