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[ElSuperGecko]

Methink this EXMEFan fellow doth protest too much. Almost as if it's trying to convince itself...

[Ithurael]

EXMEFan wrote...

Did you guys beat the game?

Then why the thank you note from the developers say "You stopped the Reaper threat", it basically congratulated you.

Also the story is being told from a woman or man to a child.........because it is a legend in the future.

It would not make sense for this whole thing to be an IT theory when the purpose of telling the story to the child was a message of hope and sacrifice. Even when you refuse and let the Reapers win in the EC DLC, the woman tells the child the information Liara left behind saved the future Galaxy and gave them peace, a peace that wasn't possible if it wasn't for commander Shepard.

You guys theory is just wrong.......

Also quoting what people SAID isn't proof. Bad guys say empty things in all games and movies when faced with an opposing threats.

You guys are a sad waste of the ME3 fans. Where most of us realize it was just bad execution and we hold Bioware accountable and they CHANGED the game based on our worries, you guys are pulling for something Bioware hasn't endorsed and have debunked in the EC release.

I will give you point for persistance....

What part of valid interpretation do you not understand?

The first part or the second part?

[Restrider]

Andromidius wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...
Love it.  Looking back at the trilogy as a whole gives you so much more perspective for the end decision...

Indeed.  It makes The Consort seem like a much more important character then she seemed to be in ME1 as well.  Though I'm not sad she didn't appear again, too many Asari in the game already.

Then I assume that you did not like Illium?

[Andromidius]

EXMEFan wrote...

Also you can't ASSUME Shepard was indoctrinated, because he's a free character, YOU control his decisions.

Therefore Bioware would have killed this in the board room. Nobody would have agreed to "yeah lets have him indoctrinated, but never say he was". Thats stupid as hell, bioware wouldn't dare hold that kind of information in. Especially at the END of a saga.

Still no original ideas?  Great.

Here's a nice fact for you.  They were planning on having the player lose control of Shepard during a gameplay sequence, but they couldn't make it work properly so they dropped the sequence.  They said that very clearly.

They never stated Shepard never loses control.

Also we never say Shepard is indoctrinated.  Pay attention.  Becoming indoctrinated isn't the same as being indoctrinated - much like dying isn't the same as being dead.

Also you fail to understand one of the core principles of IT - not only is Shepard becoming indoctrinated by Reaper efforts, the player is as well by thinking they've won without defeating the Reapers.  Something you're proving very aptly.

And its not the end of the saga.  Sorry, champ.  ME4 is coming, and even if it doesn't have Shepard it doesn't mean the story is over.

[EXMEFan]

Andromidius wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Then why the thank you note from the developers say "You stopped the Reaper threat", it basically congratulated you.

Did you buy the DLC as well?

Seriously, shut the hell up if you're not going to come up with a SINGLE original thought that's not been torn to shreds a hundred times already.  You're boring us.

Edit: Also ironic that you're asking if we completed the game when its clear from past posts that you don't actually know what happened even from a literal perspective.  Hilarious.

You guys have no torn anything to shreds

If I go into a room with people who rape women, and I'm the only one against it, OF COURSE IN THEIR COLLECTIVE GROUP THEY WILL VALIDATE WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THINK THEY ARE MAKING A POINT.

The game has already come out, the ENDING WAS PATCHED, if Shepard was indoctrinated, in which he wasn't, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE FIXED THE ENDING!?

And WHEN THEY DID FIX THE ENDING, they would have REVEALED he was Indoctrinated.  They would not put important information in a DLC 8 months after the games release.  

What DLC you ever played in the history of life that revealed something that important to the few people that will pay for it?

Thats why the EC DLC was free, because it was ESSENTIAL!   These other DLCs are like Anime filler Arcs, a way to keep you playing new content without having to change anything at the end of the game.

Just like the Prothean DLC, it revealed a lot of stuff, but at the end of the game the star child basically went back over that stuff anyways, and none of it was essential to the game's ending.

[Andromidius]

Restrider wrote...
Then I assume that you did not like Illium?

Indeed.  Its the worst hub to use in ME2 as well, there's a lot of unnecessary running around to get to each shop or character.

Plus Illium has slavers.  I don't like slavers.

[Andromidius]

EXMEFan wrote...
You guys have no torn anything to shreds

If I go into a room with people who rape women, and I'm the only one against it, OF COURSE IN THEIR COLLECTIVE GROUP THEY WILL VALIDATE WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THINK THEY ARE MAKING A POINT.

You're sick in the head.  Go seek help.  Quickly.  You're comparing us to rapists now, you have a problem.

[The Heretic of Time]

Andromidius wrote...

Restrider wrote...
Then I assume that you did not like Illium?

Indeed.  Its the worst hub to use in ME2 as well, there's a lot of unnecessary running around to get to each shop or character.

Plus Illium has slavers.  I don't like slavers.

The "slaves" on Illium are nothing more than regular working people. What is called a "slave" on Illium is what we call a "working-class citizen". The only difference is that the "slave" isn't getting paid anything other than his/her basic needs.

So really, there is no reason to make such a big deal out of these "slaves" on Illium. They chose to be slaves themselves when they signed the slave contract. 

[EXMEFan]

Ithurael wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Did you guys beat the game?

Then why the thank you note from the developers say "You stopped the Reaper threat", it basically congratulated you.

Also the story is being told from a woman or man to a child.........because it is a legend in the future.

It would not make sense for this whole thing to be an IT theory when the purpose of telling the story to the child was a message of hope and sacrifice. Even when you refuse and let the Reapers win in the EC DLC, the woman tells the child the information Liara left behind saved the future Galaxy and gave them peace, a peace that wasn't possible if it wasn't for commander Shepard.

You guys theory is just wrong.......

Also quoting what people SAID isn't proof. Bad guys say empty things in all games and movies when faced with an opposing threats.

You guys are a sad waste of the ME3 fans. Where most of us realize it was just bad execution and we hold Bioware accountable and they CHANGED the game based on our worries, you guys are pulling for something Bioware hasn't endorsed and have debunked in the EC release.

I will give you point for persistance....

What part of valid interpretation do you not understand?

The first part or the second part?

Its not VALID at all....you can't INTEPRET something that already gave you a clear meaning. The game HAS an ending, and you guys are saying the ending is something other than what the game gave you.  That is not valid.....you had full control of your character and his choices at the end of the game.  You could even WALK AWAY, let the universe be destroyed, and the woman still tells her child because of the information left behind they stopped and reapers and there is peace in the galaxy.

What you guys are saying just don't make sense.  Either Shepard was INDOCTRINATED as Saren and the Illusive man, or he wasn't.  Theres no inbetween to indoctrination, Shepard wasn't even acting weird at all at the end like every single person who was indoctrinated...and even in the case that you REFUSE TO MAKE A CHOICE, the Reapers end up destroyed.

If they wanted to indoctrinate somebody, it would have been Liara, since she was the only person capable helping future Galaxies, there was really nothing Shepard could do without the catalyst.

The star child even said they didn't think the catalyst weapon would even be built, and they underestimated the civilizations this time, thats why he gave Shepard the conversation in the first place.

Did you guys even playing the EC DLC?  AT all?

[EXMEFan]

Andromidius wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...
You guys have no torn anything to shreds

If I go into a room with people who rape women, and I'm the only one against it, OF COURSE IN THEIR COLLECTIVE GROUP THEY WILL VALIDATE WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THINK THEY ARE MAKING A POINT.

You're sick in the head.  Go seek help.  Quickly.  You're comparing us to rapists now, you have a problem.

I am proving the fact that any group joined together against one person who doesn't believe what that group believes would look WRONG to that group, doesn't mean they are wrong.

We have 1,000 religions, only one of them or none of them are right....but people make their cases pretty good, even when it don't make sense.   Even rapist, even pedophiles.

Thats what you guys are doing, grouping up, and making something rediculous look valid, when its obviously not.  And then ignoring facts when they are presented to you.

[The Heretic of Time]

EXMEFan, are you trolling or are you serious? Please just stop this madness.

I'm on your side when it comes to "IT v.s literalist". I too am a so-called "literalist". But honestly, I feel ashamed to be on the same side as you. Your behavior is unacceptable. Can't you act normal for a change? You should try it.

[Humakt83]

Report & ignore trolls. They'll get their bans soon.

Andromidius wrote...

Restrider wrote...
Then I assume that you did not like Illium?

Indeed.  Its the worst hub to use in ME2 as well, there's a lot of unnecessary running around to get to each shop or character.

Plus Illium has slavers.  I don't like slavers.

Indentured servitude.

I think Illium was just fine as a hubworld.

Modifié par Humakt83, 21 novembre 2012 - 04:04 .

[ElSuperGecko]

Andromidius wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...
Love it.  Looking back at the trilogy as a whole gives you so much more perspective for the end decision...

Indeed.  It makes The Consort seem like a much more important character then she seemed to be in ME1 as well.  Though I'm not sad she didn't appear again, too many Asari in the game already.

Plenty of Asari in the first two; not so many in ME3.

I'd actually like to revisit some of the characters and locations from ME1.

Say the ExoGeni researchers at Zhu's Hope finds a cache of Prothean data connected to the Crucible, and we have to evac their scientist teams before the Reapers hit.  Reunion with Shiala... and a chance to see the Thorian-influenced colonist hive-mind fighting in action!

And Port Hanshan.  You'd think the military research facility may have something useful for the war... plus Gianna Parsini owes me a beer.  My Shepard ALWAYS collects on his debts.

Seeing Javik's reaction to the graveyard of Ilos would be interesting as well.

As for Illium..  It would have been awe-inspiring to arrive there hours before the Reapers hit.  Mass panic, desperate struggles to evacuate... to see Illium before, during and after the Reaper invasion hits.

Let's have a DLC that includes the lot of 'em.  Interconnected missions to all four worlds.  While being pursued by Harbinger and the Collector's Black Arks.  TAKE MY MONEY BIOWARE!

[EXMEFan]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Methink this EXMEFan fellow doth protest too much. Almost as if it's trying to convince itself...

I think you should apply that to yourself and this group

You waiting for DLC hoping for something that will never come 

"Oh I hope they say Shepard was indoctrinated ths time"

LMFAO its funny, you guys are basically buying the DLC for a wild goose chase...when the purpose of the DLC is to introduce a filler arc to give you a reason to keep playing the game.

[EXMEFan]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

EXMEFan, are you trolling or are you serious? Please just stop this madness.

I'm on your side when it comes to "IT v.s literalist". I too am a so-called "literalist". But honestly, I feel ashamed to be on the same side as you. Your behavior is unacceptable. Can't you act normal for a change? You should try it.

I'm not a literalist or a IT, I'm a psychology major, and I like seeing how people cling on to things that are obviously not true. 

Behavior has nothing to do with facts.  My behavior doesn't dictate whether I'm right or wrong.  Its words on a webpage, grow some balls....

[EXMEFan]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

EXMEFan, are you trolling or are you serious? Please just stop this madness.

I'm on your side when it comes to "IT v.s literalist". I too am a so-called "literalist". But honestly, I feel ashamed to be on the same side as you. Your behavior is unacceptable. Can't you act normal for a change? You should try it.

And what is normal?  Typical white guy with gel in his hair, and a polo shirt with Khakis? **** you

[estebanus]

EXMEfan, if you don't shut up with your primitive behaviour this instant, I will report you.

[The Heretic of Time]

dorktainian wrote...

magnetite wrote...

Observe the texture on the Human Reaper:



Now the same (or similar texture) on the Joker's arm:

remember Harbinger saying 'We will find another way'?

Indoctrination Theory Wins.

In all honesty, they're both just logic-board circuits. My computers motherboard has the same texture. Does that mean my computer is also a reaper?

Honestly, your reasoning is flawed. Your argument is guilty of the following fallacy: Affirming the Consequent

[Restrider]

Humakt83 wrote...

Report & ignore trolls. They'll get their bans soon.

Andromidius wrote...

Restrider wrote...
Then I assume that you did not like Illium?

Indeed.  Its the worst hub to use in ME2 as well, there's a lot of unnecessary running around to get to each shop or character.

Plus Illium has slavers.  I don't like slavers.

Indentured servitude.

I think Illium was just fine as a hubworld.

I actually really liked Illium, one of my favourite hubs. Also the starting point of two of my favourite missions (LotSB and Thane recruitment). The only thing negative about Illium are a Volus and a Quarian.
Volus: "I have high performance needs."
Quarian: "Excuse me, human? Private conversaetiuoiun... argh."
I really hate those two NPCs.

[Davik Kang]

dorktainian wrote...
no it just failed to make sense.  Bad storywriting and structure is ........ bad.

http://www.dailywrit...ight-point-arc/

Doesn't make any points, quotes a post on how to write a story without any insight on how it applies.  Standard BSN crap.  Well done.

[ElSuperGecko]

EXMEFan wrote...
I'm not a literalist or a IT, I'm a psychology major, and I like seeing how people cling on to things that are obviously not true. 

If you're a psychology major, then that's a really sad indictment of modern education systems.  I hope you do more research when it comes to your education than you're displaying here.

[byne]

Restrider wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Report & ignore trolls. They'll get their bans soon.

Andromidius wrote...

Restrider wrote...
Then I assume that you did not like Illium?

Indeed.  Its the worst hub to use in ME2 as well, there's a lot of unnecessary running around to get to each shop or character.

Plus Illium has slavers.  I don't like slavers.

Indentured servitude.

I think Illium was just fine as a hubworld.

I actually really liked Illium, one of my favourite hubs. Also the starting point of two of my favourite missions (LotSB and Thane recruitment). The only thing negative about Illium are a Volus and a Quarian.
Volus: "I have high performance needs."
Quarian: "Excuse me, human? Private conversaetiuoiun... argh."
I really hate those two NPCs.

I still hope that Friend Zone Turian finally got together with that quarian woman.

[estebanus]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

magnetite wrote...

Observe the texture on the Human Reaper:



Now the same (or similar texture) on the Joker's arm:

remember Harbinger saying 'We will find another way'?

Indoctrination Theory Wins.

In all honesty, they're both just logic-board circuits. My computers motherboard has the same texture. Does that mean my computer is also a reaper?

Honestly, your reasoning is flawed. Your argument is guilty of the following fallacy: Affirming the Consequent

Those circuit board textures are used time and again in Mass Effect. Even in the geth station, the curcuit boards on the ground have the same texture. It's just been reused for the ending, IMO.

[EXMEFan]

estebanus wrote...

EXMEfan, if you don't shut up with your primitive behaviour this instant, I will report you.

 

Lmfao yeah  because cave men totally used the internet.   You guys just made because you are geeks on a wild goose chase believing something that isn't true.

Its a video game, games end, its over, no IT theory, live life or something.....This is whats wrong with gamers, so addictive to stuff that has no meaning beyond playing it.

Lets say if it was IT theory, then what, is there a party?  Money being given out?  What is the purpose?

You guys are just nerdy geeks with a lost way of thinking and life. 

Reminds me of those people who were 2000% sure Mitt Romney was going to win just because people on the internet didn't like Obama.

The world is bigger than your thoughts, people don't care about this IT theory, Bioware doesn't care about what you are saying about this.

They cared about the people who thought the writing at the end was confusing and sucked, and thats who they changed the game for.

Not you, you are sad gamers, obsessed fan boys and fan girls unwilling to accept the fact that your favorite series ended rather uneventful, and every little piece of exciting literature in the game all came to a halt and ultimately didn't mean anything.

LMFAO its funny and sad, and now you mad at me. 

[The Heretic of Time]

EXMEFan wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

EXMEFan, are you trolling or are you serious? Please just stop this madness.

I'm on your side when it comes to "IT v.s literalist". I too am a so-called "literalist". But honestly, I feel ashamed to be on the same side as you. Your behavior is unacceptable. Can't you act normal for a change? You should try it.

I'm not a literalist or a IT, I'm a psychology major, and I like seeing how people cling on to things that are obviously not true. 

Behavior has nothing to do with facts.  My behavior doesn't dictate whether I'm right or wrong.  Its words on a webpage, grow some balls....

Your behavior is more important than you think.

Your behavior dictates whether people will listen to you or not. By acting like a complete and total douchebag you make sure people are never going to listen to you. People will not read your comments, they'll stop taking you seriously and in the end your words will fall on deaf ears. You as a psychology major should know that. Or did you just make that shit up? I get the feeling you're not a psychology major at all...