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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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DoomsdayDevice

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EXMEFan wrote...

You guys act like the Reapers had some sort of self preservation in mind. They only had one purpose.....You guys are giving Reapers human motives.....they are machines, they do things like machines. Thats why every 50,000 years..


I lol'd.

EDI: Shepard, I'm going to modify my self-preservation code now.
Shepard: Why?
EDI: Because the Reapers are repulsive. They are devoted to nothing but self-preservation. I am different.When I think of Jeff, I think of the person that put his life in peril and freed me from a state of servitude. I would risk non-functionality for him. And my core programming should reflect that.
Shepard: Sounds like you've found a little humanity, EDI. Is it worth defending?
EDI: To the death.


Yeah, he's clearly an expert on ME lore.

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estebanus wrote...

EXMEfan, if you don't shut up with your primitive behaviour this instant, I will report you.


no need, the BiowarEa folks thinks this IT stuff is funny. So do I. You cannot report a poster for being anti IT. I warned the IT crowd that forcing the theory down folks' mentality was a form of indoctrination. This poster merely reflects that incentive. I'm rooting for EXMEfan. (besides, he/she is just devils advocating. Kind of a generic Plato gambit. lol

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EXMEFan wrote...

Its a video game, games end, its over, no IT theory, live life or something.....This is whats wrong with gamers, so addictive to stuff that has no meaning beyond playing it.


Coming from a guy with the name 'Ex-Mass Effect Fan'.  Posting in the Mass Effect forums.  Repeatedly.

Please, tell us how superior your existance is.

Oh wait, never mind.  You're a joke.  You obviously didn't even have the balls to use your real account to come and troll us and had to make a new one.  Pathetic.

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Wayning_Star wrote...

estebanus wrote...

EXMEfan, if you don't shut up with your primitive behaviour this instant, I will report you.


no need, the BiowarEa folks thinks this IT stuff is funny. So do I. You cannot report a poster for being anti IT. I warned the IT crowd that forcing the theory down folks' mentality was a form of indoctrination. This poster merely reflects that incentive. I'm rooting for EXMEfan. (besides, he/she is just devils advocating. Kind of a generic Plato gambit. lol


Disagreement is fine.

Trolling is not.

Abuse is not.

Accusations are not.

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Ignore and report it. Move on, let's get back to speculations. Omega is almost here.

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Ugh, why are the people on my side of the fence such dumbasses? -_-;

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Wayning_Star wrote...

estebanus wrote...

EXMEfan, if you don't shut up with your primitive behaviour this instant, I will report you.


no need, the BiowarEa folks thinks this IT stuff is funny. So do I. You cannot report a poster for being anti IT. I warned the IT crowd that forcing the theory down folks' mentality was a form of indoctrination. This poster merely reflects that incentive. I'm rooting for EXMEfan. (besides, he/she is just devils advocating. Kind of a generic Plato gambit. lol


Thats not why people are reporting him.

It probably has more to do with the comparing us to rapists, and then suggesting he could instead have compared us to pedophiles.

But its nice to know you're rooting for that kind of thing. Another poster I wont have to pay attention to.

Modifié par byne, 21 novembre 2012 - 04:20 .


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leonia42 wrote...
Ignore and report it. Move on, let's get back to speculations. Omega is almost here.


Indeed.  I'm looking forward to seeign what Omega brings to the table.  Specifically in regards to the Cerberus/Reaper experiments, and anything to do with Cerberus' work on the Proto-Reaper from Mass Effect 2...

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EXMEFan wrote...

estebanus wrote...

EXMEfan, if you don't shut up with your primitive behaviour this instant, I will report you.

 

Lmfao yeah  because cave men totally used the internet.   You guys just made because you are geeks on a wild goose chase believing something that isn't true.

Its a video game, games end, its over, no IT theory, live life or something.....This is whats wrong with gamers, so addictive to stuff that has no meaning beyond playing it.

Lets say if it was IT theory, then what, is there a party?  Money being given out?  What is the purpose?

You guys are just nerdy geeks with a lost way of thinking and life. 

Reminds me of those people who were 2000% sure Mitt Romney was going to win just because people on the internet didn't like Obama.

The world is bigger than your thoughts, people don't care about this IT theory, Bioware doesn't care about what you are saying about this.

They cared about the people who thought the writing at the end was confusing and sucked, and thats who they changed the game for.

Not you, you are sad gamers, obsessed fan boys and fan girls unwilling to accept the fact that your favorite series ended rather uneventful, and every little piece of exciting literature in the game all came to a halt and ultimately didn't mean anything.

LMFAO its funny and sad, and now you mad at me. 

I would almost find it sad what a raving lunatic you are if it wouldn't be so funny watching you spraying foam outta your mouth. Not only that, but I'm a literalist. 
what exactly does it matter to you what a group of people think? I mean, you just said how sad and nerdy (which really isn't an insult) everybody here is, and how the IT doesn't matter. If that truly is what you think, then why even bother coming in here and insult them? That's simply childish, and you're calling yourself a psychology major? Bah, my dog is an even better psychologist than you. 

Don't you have better things to do than waste your time with "stupid" gamers? Are you grasping for attention? Or is this somehow your hobby?

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The Heretic of Time

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estebanus wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

magnetite wrote...

Observe the texture on the Human Reaper:

*snip*

Now the same (or similar texture) on the Joker's arm:

*snip*



remember Harbinger saying 'We will find another way'?

Indoctrination Theory Wins.


In all honesty, they're both just logic-board circuits. My computers motherboard has the same texture. Does that mean my computer is also a reaper?

Honestly, your reasoning is flawed. Your argument is guilty of the following fallacy: Affirming the Consequent

Those circuit board textures are used time and again in Mass Effect. Even in the geth station, the curcuit boards on the ground have the same texture. It's just been reused for the ending, IMO.


Indeed. Reusing assets and especially textures is a common thing in video-games where textures take up lots of storage space. It's called "modular texturing". Look it up. it's nothing new and it most certainly is NOT a clue, hint, proof or evidence for the IT.

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Andromidius wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

estebanus wrote...

EXMEfan, if you don't shut up with your primitive behaviour this instant, I will report you.


no need, the BiowarEa folks thinks this IT stuff is funny. So do I. You cannot report a poster for being anti IT. I warned the IT crowd that forcing the theory down folks' mentality was a form of indoctrination. This poster merely reflects that incentive. I'm rooting for EXMEfan. (besides, he/she is just devils advocating. Kind of a generic Plato gambit. lol


Disagreement is fine.

Trolling is not.

Abuse is not.

Accusations are not.


so, reporting to win the day is OK with you,eh? tsk tsk..sooo much for honor amongst fans..heheh

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Wayning_Star wrote...

estebanus wrote...

EXMEfan, if you don't shut up with your primitive behaviour this instant, I will report you.


no need, the BiowarEa folks thinks this IT stuff is funny. So do I. You cannot report a poster for being anti IT. I warned the IT crowd that forcing the theory down folks' mentality was a form of indoctrination. This poster merely reflects that incentive. I'm rooting for EXMEfan. (besides, he/she is just devils advocating. Kind of a generic Plato gambit. lol

If you'd read his posts, then you'd most certainly understand that people aren't reporting him because he's against the theory. I mean, I myself am not even part of it. 

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Ugh, why are the people on my side of the fence such dumbasses? -_-;


Don't worry, we've had our fair share as well.  Though it seems most left a while back.

It also has to do with the fact there are many more regular users then IT'ers, and there's a massive misunderstanding about us.  Honestly I don't even understand why, considering we're just a bunch of nerds discussing video games, movies and literature for the most part.

That being said, 'it' seems to just be bored and can get the most fun out of accosting us.  I assure you, if the tables were turned he'd be on our side of the fence giving you a hard time.  So don't consider him 'on your side of the fence' at all.

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Restrider wrote...
Volus: "I have high performance needs."
Quarian: "Excuse me, human? Private conversaetiuoiun... argh."
I really hate those two NPCs.


What? Those were just fine. Especially Volus when it becomes apparent he doesn't quite have enough credits for the suit. And Quarian is right, you're eavesdropping to their private discussion.

Modifié par Humakt83, 21 novembre 2012 - 04:26 .


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Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Ugh, why are the people on my side of the fence such dumbasses? -_-;


Don't worry about it Hanar.  It's not as though this is some kind of literalist vs IT'er war.  We each have our opinions, we can disagree about the endings, have our own interpretations and still discuss them reasonably, that's fine.

Our friend under the bridge over there doesn't want to do anything of the sort.  It just wants to try and annoy people.  I assume it gets off on it.

Modifié par ElSuperGecko, 21 novembre 2012 - 04:25 .


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Wayning_Star wrote...

so, reporting to win the day is OK with you,eh? tsk tsk..sooo much for honor amongst fans..heheh


What are you talking about?  I'm reporting in the hopes he'll be removed for abusive behaviour.  Just like some of us have been punished for our actions in the past.

And I assure you, we don't need to 'win the day' at all.  That's hardly the purpose of this thread.  Winning isn't even the goal - finding out the truth and having fun while doing so is.

And if you take offense to that, so be it.  You're free to leave.

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The irony is that he still doesn't even understand IT.

Just look at this:

EXMEFan wrote...

Also you can't ASSUME Shepard was indoctrinated, because he's a free character, YOU control his decisions.


He doesn't even understand what IT is about.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 21 novembre 2012 - 04:28 .


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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

EXMEFan, are you trolling or are you serious? Please just stop this madness.

I'm on your side when it comes to "IT v.s literalist". I too am a so-called "literalist". But honestly, I feel ashamed to be on the same side as you. Your behavior is unacceptable. Can't you act normal for a change? You should try it.


I'm not a literalist or a IT, I'm a psychology major, and I like seeing how people cling on to things that are obviously not true. 

Behavior has nothing to do with facts.  My behavior doesn't dictate whether I'm right or wrong.  Its words on a webpage, grow some balls....


Your behavior is more important than you think.

Your behavior dictates whether people will listen to you or not. By acting like a complete and total douchebag you make sure people are never going to listen to you. People will not read your comments, they'll stop taking you seriously and in the end your words will fall on deaf ears. You as a psychology major should know that. Or did you just make that shit up? I get the feeling you're not a psychology major at all...


I don't care about if people will listen, just most of the time, when people hear the truth, they know it, whether they openly acknowledge it or not.

Its like how a woman could know their man cheating, but because he won't admit it, something in her still believes him.  But if he finally admitted it, she'll be like "I KNEW IT".

Its human nature to defend things you cling on so hard, even in the face of facts.

Look how they look at the game as if the developers said "okay we're going to plant this here, here, and here as easter eggs for indoctrination". 

They are effectively saying the whole game was crafted around this concept, only for them to never reveal it in the story. 

Its dillusional and sad to see that people are this dumb.  Theres no need to be civil about it, this is a stupid idea, and it means they don't know anything about story, literature, gaming, or the development process. 

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Humakt83 wrote...

Restrider wrote...
Volus: "I have high performance needs."
Quarian: "Excuse me, human? Private conversaetiuoiun... argh."
I really hate those two NPCs.


What? Those were just fine. Especially Volus when it becomes apparent he doesn't quite have the credits for the suit. And Quarian is right, you're eavesdropping to their private discussion.


Maybe Shepard was just eavesdropping because she knew how ME3 sidequests would be entirely about eavesdropping, and just needed practice before saving the galaxy!

Did you ever think of that, quarian lady?!

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Like I stated earlier, BiowarEa thinks IT is like, totally funny.. Keep up the humor folks.. it's free!!

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

You guys act like the Reapers had some sort of self preservation in mind. They only had one purpose.....You guys are giving Reapers human motives.....they are machines, they do things like machines. Thats why every 50,000 years..


I lol'd.

EDI: Shepard, I'm going to modify my self-preservation code now.
Shepard: Why?
EDI: Because the Reapers are repulsive. They are devoted to nothing but self-preservation. I am different.When I think of Jeff, I think of the person that put his life in peril and freed me from a state of servitude. I would risk non-functionality for him. And my core programming should reflect that.
Shepard: Sounds like you've found a little humanity, EDI. Is it worth defending?
EDI: To the death.


Yeah, he's clearly an expert on ME lore.


Just because a character SAID something don't mean it was true, it was EDI interpretation of the Repears.  Clearly at the end, the Reapers were TOOLS, and were about the preservation of organic life, not themselves...

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Humakt83 wrote...

Restrider wrote...
Volus: "I have high performance needs."
Quarian: "Excuse me, human? Private conversaetiuoiun... argh."
I really hate those two NPCs.


What? Those were just fine. Especially Volus when it becomes apparent he doesn't quite have enough credits for the suit. And Quarian is right, you're eavesdropping to their private discussion.

And...? I am fracking Cmdr Shepard! Saviour of the Citadel... You're right, it's easier to kill the SB and politely ask Liara for the audio files of that conversation.

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byne wrote...
Maybe Shepard was just eavesdropping because she knew how ME3 sidequests would be entirely about eavesdropping, and just needed practice before saving the galaxy!

Did you ever think of that, quarian lady?!


Its clear she required you to get a special antibiotic that protects against Turian bacteria, that you can only find on board the Collector Cruiser and can never hand it in after finding the Reaper IFF and yet the quest never leaves your journal or lets you know you even found the antibiotic.

Obviously.