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[gunslinger_ruiz]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Big Brother The Reapers are watching us

You'd think they'd do something about that meddling Bioware company spoiling all their plans if that were the case.

No wait, their harvest is inevitable and unstoppable, they wouldn't care damn them!

[MWMike2011]

Ah, I certainly did miss a hell of a troll ride...

Still can't wait to see what Omega has to offer for IT. During that whole clusterf*** over those few pages, someone reposted Evil Chris mentioned about IT being a "valid interpretation," which, taken in conjunction with all of this "we do not comment on rumors and speculations" kinda fuels the fire that there is SOMETHING cooking that will have everything make that much more sense, even if it isn't IT.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

MWMike2011 wrote...

Ah, I certainly did miss a hell of a troll ride...

Still can't wait to see what Omega has to offer for IT. During that whole clusterf*** over those few pages, someone reposted Evil Chris mentioned about IT being a "valid interpretation," which, taken in conjunction with all of this "we do not comment on rumors and speculations" kinda fuels the fire that there is SOMETHING cooking that will have everything make that much more sense, even if it isn't IT.

I've been saying that for more than eight months now.

Somthing is coming, IT or not, Bioware is up to Something.

[ElSuperGecko]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...
Ah, I certainly did miss a hell of a troll ride...

Still can't wait to see what Omega has to offer for IT. During that whole clusterf*** over those few pages, someone reposted Evil Chris mentioned about IT being a "valid interpretation," which, taken in conjunction with all of this "we do not comment on rumors and speculations" kinda fuels the fire that there is SOMETHING cooking that will have everything make that much more sense, even if it isn't IT.

I've been saying that for more than eight months now.

Somthing is coming, IT or not, Bioware is up to Something.

Without a shadow of a doubt.  ME3's story isn't over yet, and I imagine they've got some pretty epic revelations in store for us prior to ME4 coming out.  As sure as I am that we've uncovered some of the pieces of their puzzle, I'm also sure there's a lot we still have to figure out.

But one thing's for sure... when they finally reveal their hand, minds will be blown.

[Jadebaby]

Just thought I'd drop off some thoughts..

I'm currently doing my certificate III in non-emergency patient transport and this entire week we've been looking at brain function and deterioration. Mostly to do with Alzhiemer's and Dementia.

What I found most interesting is that Brain Neuro patterns look amazingly similiar to this...



And, in fact.. Act to work together by "synthesizing" with each other to gain logical throught processes and movements. Now, this is the first dream sequence...

Now, notice the second dream sequence.




They are significantly blurred and distorted...

Now look at what happens with proper brain function..




And now with a dementia affected neurological Pathway




Some "circuits" are greyed out as the dementia deteriorates the brain function. Now compare this to the "trees" from the dream sequences....


Now, lastly, in the 3rd dream sequence it starts off with the kid and no trees. Which could only stand to reason (according to this theory) that the "indoctrinated" part of the brain has totally taken over and started burning holes in Shepard's actual brain... Evidenced by this...




Oh and, for the record, this is what the "synthesis" refers to between neurological co-operation.



Which you can also see occuring in the previous picture of normal brain function also.

[MWMike2011]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...
Ah, I certainly did miss a hell of a troll ride...

Still can't wait to see what Omega has to offer for IT. During that whole clusterf*** over those few pages, someone reposted Evil Chris mentioned about IT being a "valid interpretation," which, taken in conjunction with all of this "we do not comment on rumors and speculations" kinda fuels the fire that there is SOMETHING cooking that will have everything make that much more sense, even if it isn't IT.

I've been saying that for more than eight months now.

Somthing is coming, IT or not, Bioware is up to Something.

Without a shadow of a doubt.  ME3's story isn't over yet, and I imagine they've got some pretty epic revelations in store for us prior to ME4 coming out.  As sure as I am that we've uncovered some of the pieces of their puzzle, I'm also sure there's a lot we still have to figure out.

But one thing's for sure... when they finally reveal their hand, minds will be blown.

I agree wholeheartedly with both of you (didn't wanna double post, as i'm prone to do...lol). I get the VERY strong impression that whatever they are going to do, the massive, final DLC that is released will have some huge revelation that will play directly into the events of ME4. And as I've said before in this forum, I don't give a damn if it is IT anymore or not. I just want to KNOW. I know it is going to be epic, after everything else thatw e have gotten to play before now. This "hurry up and wait" is killing me, and it has gotten worse since I rejoined the conversation in the forums. lol

[Rifneno]

paxxton wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

can i have one of those while i work on my control theory to add to my synthesis theory?

ftw.

Control Theory? Now that's something I'd like to read.

How about... Control: Unilateral & Nefarious Theory?

...  What?  Why are you looking at me like that?

[gunslinger_ruiz]

@Jade8aby88

Had discussed and compared images of neurons to the dream trees previously in thread, but good to see it compared to other parts of the brain.

Good post, thanks for images.

[ElSuperGecko]

MWMike2011 wrote...
I get the VERY strong impression that whatever they are going to do, the massive, final DLC that is released will have some huge revelation that will play directly into the events of ME4...

My thoughts exactly.  We're being told that ME3 is the end of Shepard's story, but also that the ME franchise will continue.  ME4 will likely be launched on the next generation of consoles, but Bioware will use the ongoing stories from ME3's DLC to build up to it and generate hype for it.  That could be another 12-18 months plus, at least.

We could be in for a long wait before we finally see the full picture... but let's hope we at least get a few hints from Omega!

[Fur28]

Do you think that, probably been mentioned before, the upcoming DLCs will have something to do with themes and subplots mentioned only in ME1?, reason trilogy released in PS3.
Or just things better explained in the first game like Keepers, even indoctrination wasn´t really mentioned that much in ME2

[ElSuperGecko]

Fur28 wrote...
..even indoctrination wasn´t really mentioned that much in ME2

Really?    the Derelict Reaper?  Arrival?  Harbinger's control over the Collectors?

edit:  However, back on your point, yeah, I'd imagine we see future DLC revisting certain story arcs from previous games.  Omega seems almost certain to.  The Keepers/Citadel is a possibility, maybe even Noveria/Gianna Parsini and Cerberus' research into the Thorian's enslavement...

Modifié par ElSuperGecko, 22 novembre 2012 - 12:34 .

[hukbum]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
..even indoctrination wasn´t really mentioned that much in ME2

Really?    the Derelict Reaper?  Arrival?  Harbinger's control over the Collectors?

Yeah, sometimes I really wonder if I played a completly diffrent game ...
Did they sell a copy without indoctrination?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
..even indoctrination wasn´t really mentioned that much in ME2

Really?    the Derelict Reaper?  Arrival?  Harbinger's control over the Collectors?

The Heretic Geth.

The sidequest where you find a Reaper Artifact in a mine which has turned the miners into husks.

[Fur28]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
..even indoctrination wasn´t really mentioned that much in ME2

Really?    the Derelict Reaper?  Arrival?  Harbinger's control over the Collectors?

The Heretic Geth.

The sidequest where you find a Reaper Artifact in a mine which has turned the miners into husks.

Fine fine i get it, the more i remember about 2 was the squadmates, and only remember the plot as stop the collectors. 
IMO the characters were more important than the plot in the secon game, thats why i remember them more

Modifié par Fur28, 22 novembre 2012 - 12:50 .

[Fur28]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
..even indoctrination wasn´t really mentioned that much in ME2

Really?    the Derelict Reaper?  Arrival?  Harbinger's control over the Collectors?

edit:  However, back on your point, yeah, I'd imagine we see future DLC revisting certain story arcs from previous games.  Omega seems almost certain to.  The Keepers/Citadel is a possibility, maybe even Noveria/Gianna Parsini and Cerberus' research into the Thorian's enslavement...

Yeah there must be a reason the Thorian was mentioned in Leviathan, i think they may use Puzzle theory a little, also i want to use the think that the keepers used to use to open the door to dark space

[BleedingUranium]

Fur28 wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
..even indoctrination wasn´t really mentioned that much in ME2

Really?    the Derelict Reaper?  Arrival?  Harbinger's control over the Collectors?

edit:  However, back on your point, yeah, I'd imagine we see future DLC revisting certain story arcs from previous games.  Omega seems almost certain to.  The Keepers/Citadel is a possibility, maybe even Noveria/Gianna Parsini and Cerberus' research into the Thorian's enslavement...

Yeah there must be a reason the Thorian was mentioned in Leviathan, i think they may use Puzzle theory a little, also i want to use the think that the keepers used to use to open the door to dark space

The Rachni were mentioned too. That's interesting, as the two most commonly thought of people to help Shepard break indoc would be the Rachni Queen or Shiala and the Feros colonists.

Another possible point in favour or the Keeper DLC being true: Leviathan isn't related to past games, so it's an ME3 story, while Omega is clearly an ME2-related DLC, so it would make a lot of sense to have an ME1-related next. Also, scanning the Keepers might turn out to be useful.


@Jade Those brain pics are very interesting, thanks!

[Fur28]

BleedingUranium wrote...


The Rachni were mentioned too. That's interesting, as the two most commonly thought of people to help Shepard break indoc would be the Rachni Queen or Shiala and the Feros colonists.

Another possible point in favour or the Keeper DLC being true: Leviathan isn't related to past games, so it's an ME3 story, while Omega is clearly an ME2-related DLC, so it would make a lot of sense to have an ME1-related next. Also, scanning the Keepers might turn out to be useful.


@Jade Those brain pics are very interesting, thanks!

I want to see the salarian that asked you to do that quest, with simple scannigs he discovered the entire reaper plan or something like that i cant remember well, imagine what he can do with even more data.

Also i want so hear Happy Scannig, find that phrase cheesy but fun

[paxxton]

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

can i have one of those while i work on my control theory to add to my synthesis theory?

ftw.

Control Theory? Now that's something I'd like to read.

How about... Control: Unilateral & Nefarious Theory?

...  What?  Why are you looking at me like that?

Hey! The war is over and we've gotten a bonus.  Btw, if anything, Synthesis would be immoral, because it's done without consent from the affected individuals.

[MegumiAzusa]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Megumi is making the mistake many do when quoting buddhist concepts. The existence of things is not denied, only the accuracy of our perception of them. Mental constructs are inaccurate representations of reality. The lesson in that story is irrelevant to discussions on fiction. Fiction is the realm of the intellect, therefore a quote regarding the inherent fallacy of intellect (mind) is so far removed from the discussion that it's wisdom is meaningless. The teacher is reminding his students that enlightenment is reached by seeing beyond intellect. That quote mocks Megumi's very reason for being in the thread, but the irony escapes her.

Nope IF you had read my post I said they bend the concepts to their will as they say it's fiction. They cannot know the original intent for the things they see, so they make them up, which creates a problem as the story got rewrites and contains errors.
You made the mistake of interpreting the quote only on the level for the real world, but not for fiction. Their certainty is irrelevant as they create the fiction for themselves which only allows one pseudo reality, while the intention with the ending very well might have been to create both possibilities, and not excluding any. This is what people don't get. For them it's either x or y.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 22 novembre 2012 - 01:36 .

[Jusseb]

Everytime i see that synthesis ending my brain hurts.

The Mass Effect universe has a logical explanation for most of the things that happen. But that synthesis ending, i can't wrap my head around it. Some green 'wave' transforms all beings into terminators of some sort? That just lame, and totally doesn't fit in the ME universe.

The control ending, fine i can live with. But that synthesis ending, whoever designed that has to be 'taken care off'

I'm counting off till thursday 29th. I've got 3 playtroughs ready for Omega. That's also a test, if i only finish it with one playtrough it just means that the DLC failed to reach my expectations.

Modifié par Jusseb, 22 novembre 2012 - 01:25 .

[BleedingUranium]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Megumi is making the mistake many do when quoting buddhist concepts. The existence of things is not denied, only the accuracy of our perception of them. Mental constructs are inaccurate representations of reality. The lesson in that story is irrelevant to discussions on fiction. Fiction is the realm of the intellect, therefore a quote regarding the inherent fallacy of intellect (mind) is so far removed from the discussion that it's wisdom is meaningless. The teacher is reminding his students that enlightenment is reached by seeing beyond intellect. That quote mocks Megumi's very reason for being in the thread, but the irony escapes her.

Nope IF you had read my post I said they bend the concepts to their will as they say it's fiction. They cannot know the original intent for the things they see, so they make them up, which creates a problem as the story got rewrites and contains errors.
You made the mistake of interpreting the quote only on the level for the real world, but not for fiction. Their certainty is irrelevant as they create the fiction for themselves which only allows one pseudo reality, while the intention with the ending very well might have been to create both possibilities, and not excluding any. This is what people don't get. For them it's either x or y.

I understood that, and I disagree with it. As I said before, that's what I was thinking in the early days of IT, but we've moved on from there now.

[MegumiAzusa]

BleedingUranium wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

[...] This is what people don't get. For them it's either x or y.

I understood that, and I disagree with it. As I said before, that's what I was thinking in the early days of IT, but we've moved on from there now.

Which is a problem as the game still supports both views.
For example the stargazer scene. Why is it different in refuse but not for the 3 others? This would only make sense if they work the same way, which means Shepards demise and/or indoctrination is irrelevant in the end, but the choice to use the crucible is not. There is no way to "move on" but to ignore that.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 22 novembre 2012 - 01:51 .

[paxxton]

Has anyone noticed that this weekend's OP was announced on Wednesday, much earlier than usual?

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

Has anyone noticed that this weekend's OP was announced on Wednesday, much earlier than usual?

Also we got Victory packs again and a much bigger announcement.

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Has anyone noticed that this weekend's OP was announced on Wednesday, much earlier than usual?

Also we got Victory packs again and a much bigger announcement.

Yeah, the squad goal is a nice come-back after a few weeks of Commendation Pack exclusiveness.