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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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This cracks me up.

In another thread, Seival:

"Destroying the Reapers is murder."

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byne wrote...

Yknow, I was thinking about the whole 'No Collectors in Omega' thing.

If, at some point in the DLC, we went through the Omega 4 Relay, and fought Collectors there, they wouldnt technically be in Omega, would they?


I was thinking along those lines when they said: "The short answer is no."

I was like: so the long answer is yes? xD

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BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

Yknow, I was thinking about the whole 'No Collectors in Omega' thing.

If, at some point in the DLC, we went through the Omega 4 Relay, and fought Collectors there, they wouldnt technically be in Omega, would they?

Yeah, but I thought Omega was moved to the galaxy core to collect the remnants of the base or the base itself.

Omega is huge... I can understand the Citadel moving since it's basically a huge Relay, but Omega?

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Restrider wrote...

byne wrote...

Yknow, I was thinking about the whole 'No Collectors in Omega' thing.

If, at some point in the DLC, we went through the Omega 4 Relay, and fought Collectors there, they wouldnt technically be in Omega, would they?

Yep, that's what I was thinking, too. It's just not clear if they meant Omega DLC or Omega as location in the galaxy...
Edit: Top

Regardless, I wouldn't hold my breath, though. I guess Omega is more the Lair of the Shadow Broker of ME3. It'll be fun to play, but will not contribute that much to the themes of the endings (not as much as Overlord, Arrival or Leviathan). On the other hand, who knows...


I don't think Omega will do much at all to push forward the themes of indoctrination in the endings.

But I do think it may elaborate on Cerberus, their plans (and how it might, again, not jive with the 'TIM' we see on the 'Citadel'), and the Crucible's history.

Ideally.

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Or guys the Collectors will come in on a side N7 mission. I can see that. Shepard get's a report that an Alliance base stoped responding 7 days ago, and they need Shepard to check it out. Shepard finds the dead Alliance team, and boom a black arc appers from the sky.

Then we fight Collectors, and Normandy takes, or wound the Collector ship.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

This cracks me up.

In another thread, Seival:

"Destroying the Reapers is murder."

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byne wrote...

Yknow, I was thinking about the whole 'No Collectors in Omega' thing.

If, at some point in the DLC, we went through the Omega 4 Relay, and fought Collectors there, they wouldnt technically be in Omega, would they?


I was thinking along those lines when they said: "The short answer is no."

I was like: so the long answer is yes? xD


lol that was my response to them too.

As for Seival, she's been 'murdering' hundreds of geth, husks, and more, by this point, from her logic.

Perhaps the term she's looking for is 'executing'. Becuase these Reapers have killed *many trillions* of sapiants at this point.

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I wish I was on twitter, then I would definitely send Bioware a message.

"Hey guys, I found those datapads on Eden Prime. I'm totally on to you now. xD"

It would probably get ignored though. =P

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

This cracks me up.

In another thread, Seival:

"Destroying the Reapers is murder."

*snip*


Killing the very first geth drone you encounter on Eden Prime is also murder. Seival clearly shouldnt have made it off Eden Prime.

Edit: :ph34r:

Modifié par byne, 23 novembre 2012 - 10:15 .


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I wish I was on twitter, then I would definitely send Bioware a message.

"Hey guys, I found those datapads on Eden Prime. I'm totally on to you now. xD"

It would probably get ignored though. =P


Of course they'll ignore it.
But I tweet them sometimes. Let em know they're appreciated.

I also want to work for them, especially if IT is true. Heh.

Maybe I should ask my boyfriend's friend how to do it... but then again, its probably nothing I don't know. Lots move from one company to another, and that's exactly what he did.

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Wait DD, so killing the Reapers is murder?????? WTF! Honest why would people think that Killing Reapers is murder, and people shouldn't do it. Just god Bioware please let IT be what you intended because you did it. You got a good portion of your fans to side with the Reapers and become Indoctrinated.


On that note I just killed the Dark spawn leader even if he said they won't attack this and who, but I remebered on how they are born/ created, so I killed him. Broodmothers are woman that are changed into the female Darkspawn and creates more of them, so if they want more woman they just have to capture them, and make them eat man flesh, Dwarfn flesh, or elven flesh.

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masster blaster wrote...

Wait DD, so killing the Reapers is murder?????? WTF! Honest why would people think that Killing Reapers is murder, and people shouldn't do it. Just god Bioware please let IT be what you intended because you did it. You got a good portion of your fans to side with the Reapers and become Indoctrinated.


I know right? :lol:

GOOD JOB BIOWARE

Also, did you see my finds on the Eden Prime datapads and the (possible) EDI destroy analogy?

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Check out the videos in the OP (I especially recommend the Avacoyos "there is only one choice" video [100% sure I mispelled it]) and the IT Top Ten list in my signature for further information. And then I recommend you to play the trilogy or ME3 with IT in mind. It will give you a new perspective and may turn the disastrous feelings you had while playing ME3 knowing the literal endings into fridge brilliance.


Oh I've seen parts of almost every vid in the OP... And believe me I've wanted to believe in the IT but, unless Bioware outright confirms it in an epilogue DLC, I can only count IT as just a piece of fan-fiction. Hell it's brilliant and lore-friendly, but ultimately, for me to accept it as fact I need to hear it from Bioware as official. 

That, and we then need to get the REAL ending that will conclude the ME trillogy. So yeah, it's been 8 long months and nothing so far... I'm not optimistic and as far as I'm concerened the ending to ME3 is still a disaster and by the way things are looking, it's going to stay that way =/

And if IT is true then the ending is more like fridge horror because we then realize that the series hasn't concluded... we didn't take back Earth, the Reapers are still reaping, and all that "closure" we were given in the EC amounts to nothing. And if bioware refuses expand on the endings, but admits to the IT as being true, then I'll honestly be more devestated than I already am XD

So yeah, part of me still clings to the hope that something will pop up before or at the end of ME3 DLC cycle that will give us the definative resolution that we were promised (IT or not). But I'm not holding my breath =/

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Andromidius wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Was Dark Energy a major part of the plot? We don't know...
Was Dark Energy never part of the plot/game? No, see above...
Case closed...


Twitter links posted earlier suggest that they were originally going to play a part.  And they are the proof demanded, from Drew himself.

https://twitter.com/...282864288960512


Except that he didn't say that.  But feel free to keep spreading that ridiculous rumor.

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Oh wow 20 pages! Omega's coming hehe. So I'm getting better at soloing bronze. Just finished my 3rd. Though can only solo with just Cerberus so far

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byne wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

This cracks me up.

In another thread, Seival:

"Destroying the Reapers is murder."

*snip*


Killing the very first geth drone you encounter on Eden Prime is also murder. Seival clearly shouldnt have made it off Eden Prime.

Edit: :ph34r:

Your post made me think of this.

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Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Was Dark Energy a major part of the plot? We don't know...
Was Dark Energy never part of the plot/game? No, see above...
Case closed...


Twitter links posted earlier suggest that they were originally going to play a part.  And they are the proof demanded, from Drew himself.

https://twitter.com/...282864288960512


Except that he didn't say that.  But feel free to keep spreading that ridiculous rumor.



Hmmm yeah. "On the table" does not = "original ending"

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Yes DD I did.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I wish I was on twitter, then I would definitely send Bioware a message.

"Hey guys, I found those datapads on Eden Prime. I'm totally on to you now. xD"

It would probably get ignored though. =P


just send one of the mods a message from the BSN. Or better yet create a thread about it so they will see it 

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Restrider wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

Yknow, I was thinking about the whole 'No Collectors in Omega' thing.

If, at some point in the DLC, we went through the Omega 4 Relay, and fought Collectors there, they wouldnt technically be in Omega, would they?

Yeah, but I thought Omega was moved to the galaxy core to collect the remnants of the base or the base itself.

Omega is huge... I can understand the Citadel moving since it's basically a huge Relay, but Omega?



i don't remember that. Guess I will on the 27th lol

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Killing Reapers is murder? Then what the hell have the Reapers been doing all this time?

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Andromidius wrote...

Killing Reapers is murder? Then what the hell have the Reapers been doing all this time?

You silly fool! Reapers preserve and ascend life. They are our salvation!

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Rifneno wrote...

Except that he didn't say that.  But feel free to keep spreading that ridiculous rumor.


So I link his damn twitter feed, and you still deny it?  Holy ****ing hell...

Fine, be that way.  Pray do tell us mere mortals what he actually ****ing said then, please.  Or better yet suck up your damn pride and admit you were wrong for a change.

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SwobyJ wrote...

Hmmm yeah. "On the table" does not = "original ending"


But the whole point was that Dark Energy was considered at one point, then changed.  Which is exactly what is being said.

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Restrider wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Killing Reapers is murder? Then what the hell have the Reapers been doing all this time?

You silly fool! Reapers preserve and ascend life. They are our salvation!


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To add to the DE debate:
We do not imply that the DE plot would've been better. Personally I think it would've been worse and I still think that what DD said earlier holds a lot of truth - namely that the DE plot should've been used to make your Shepard jump into the Synthesis beam.
But it is asinine to still state that the DE plot was never considered!

Modifié par Restrider, 23 novembre 2012 - 10:39 .


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Also finished black ops 2 yesterday and it was actually very good. The story was funny, sad, and epic all in one, and I like they give you choices to see what the over all out come will be.