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[BleedingUranium]

Night Byne

[masster blaster]

Night byne.

[IronSabbath88]

Hey guys..

So I recently bought Leviathan tonight since it was on sale and that was the only way I was buying it, anyway, I finished it up and afterwards when I was done I decided to check out what my war assets look like for the hell of it... needless to say, I turned up some pretty startling stuff..

First, I've seen a thread made here about noises heard on the Normandy. I heard these noises.. I thought it was just me but there was definiely faint chatter in the background of the room where you can view war assets... I DISTINCTLY heard someone say "reinforcements are enroute", some coughing, and I swear I heard a female voice who sounded like FemShep say "You got it"

Has this ever been investigated futher or explained? Because.. what the hell.. I don't want to jump to conclusions if someone has explained this in the past, but if you're not aware of this you should try it.

It should be noted that I don't have EC installed if that has anything to do with it... but I just noticed this now after all the time I've spent playing the game.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Hey guys..

So I recently bought Leviathan tonight since it was on sale and that was the only way I was buying it, anyway, I finished it up and afterwards when I was done I decided to check out what my war assets look like for the hell of it... needless to say, I turned up some pretty startling stuff..

First, I've seen a thread made here about noises heard on the Normandy. I heard these noises.. I thought it was just me but there was definiely faint chatter in the background of the room where you can view war assets... I DISTINCTLY heard someone say "reinforcements are enroute", some coughing, and I swear I heard a female voice who sounded like FemShep say "You got it"

Has this ever been investigated futher or explained? Because.. what the hell.. I don't want to jump to conclusions if someone has explained this in the past, but if you're not aware of this you should try it.

It should be noted that I don't have EC installed if that has anything to do with it... but I just noticed this now after all the time I've spent playing the game.

It is not the first time someone has brought up hearing voices in that room, but I dont think it has ever been investigated.

[Gwyphon]

I remember some one tried to isolate it a while back. Most people dismiss it as just usual background noise on a busy ship.
I don't really want to jump on board that... ship until some one actually isolates it.

[IronSabbath88]

I know I heard someone definitely say reinforcements are enroute. I will guarantee that one.

[Davik Kang]

 Random thought, I'll srop it here to likely get swallowed up in the currents of time...

Sovereign says "you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding" or some such

In Synthesis, EDI says "Where once they threatened us with extinction...they know bring us the collective knowledge of the cultures that came before" 

Perhaps our newly synthesised minds are capable of understanding now... given that we are likely united with our minds no longer separate, but conjoined as a new Reaper entity... and so joined to all other Reapers and their 'collective knowledge' of the previous cultures they've consumed...

[Davik Kang]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I know I heard someone definitely say reinforcements are enroute. I will guarantee that one.

The things you've quoted do seem like quite reasonable things for people to say when analysing information in a war room.  Was there something in particular about them that made you suspicious?

[Gwyphon]

Does synthesis give us the ability to understand, or force us to? Honestly I don't feel as if I can comment on the details of synthesis until Bioware give us a little more understanding.

[masster blaster]

King no no no. Synthesis is false. It's bad to the core, but I really don't follow to be honest. I say Synthesis is bs, and nothing more.

Also I founded something that just is so good of an argument against Synthesis, even they can't deni it, I didn't come up with it, but someone else did. It's from a very comic that Grayson is in.

[masster blaster]

401 Kill wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Not a quote so much as a excerpt from Mass Effect: Retribution. "He was being transformed. Re purposed. The implants had spread throughout his body. The self replicating Reaper technology had woven itself into his muscles, sinews, and nerves, transforming him into a monstrous hybrid of organic and synthetic life. His flesh had become stretched and semi translucent. Beneath it he could see thin flexible tubes winding along his limbs. Flickers of light pulsed along the tubes, the illumination bright enough to be visible through his opaque skin." -Chapter Nine Mass Effect Retribution., Paul Grayson being re purposed, aka "synthesized" by the Reapers.

Ah, that doesn't sound familiar at all. -Insert Synthesis ending pic-

well said Bravo0543211

A clear example of how synthesis is... Well... This. Great piece!

How's that leap of faith looking now?

The year was 2027

[Hanako Ikezawa]

masster blaster wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Not a quote so much as a excerpt from Mass Effect: Retribution. "He was being transformed. Re purposed. The implants had spread throughout his body. The self replicating Reaper technology had woven itself into his muscles, sinews, and nerves, transforming him into a monstrous hybrid of organic and synthetic life. His flesh had become stretched and semi translucent. Beneath it he could see thin flexible tubes winding along his limbs. Flickers of light pulsed along the tubes, the illumination bright enough to be visible through his opaque skin." -Chapter Nine Mass Effect Retribution., Paul Grayson being re purposed, aka "synthesized" by the Reapers.

Ah, that doesn't sound familiar at all. -Insert Synthesis ending pic-

well said Bravo0543211

A clear example of how synthesis is... Well... This. Great piece!

How's that leap of faith looking now?

The year was 2027

to answer 401 Kill's question; it looks very shiny and green.

[IronSabbath88]

Davik, the last thing I want to do is sound foolish but yeah, I thought at first "must be just the crewmates talking amongst themselves.."

Until I turned music and dialogue both to 0 and kept only the SFX up and I could STILL hear it. Clear as crystal, not to mention that sounded very distant, not close by.

[Davik Kang]

Hahahhaha I wasn't saying Synthesis is a good thing. Omg no. Afaik synthesis is just as bad whether it happens as we see it or it's a figurative imagining concealing the true horror. Imo it actually makes little difference.

I was just drawing the parallel with what Sovereign said and what EDI says. It might be another suggestion that Synthesis puts us in touch with the Reapers... a little closer than anyone would have ever imagined in their worst nightmares...

[Davik Kang]

IronSabbath88 wrote...
Davik, the last thing I want to do is sound foolish but yeah, I thought at first "must be just the crewmates talking amongst themselves.."

Until I turned music and dialogue both to 0 and kept only the SFX up and I could STILL hear it. Clear as crystal, not to mention that sounded very distant, not close by.

Ah ok.

It definitely has that kind of 'dream ambience' to it.  I can only think of 2 things for now:

1 - it's another example of things not really being what they seem - we're hearing whispers, conversations, ideas that aren't really happening in our present situation; or

2 - it was a way of making the Normandy feel more alive by recording a more ambient type of sound for the more populated areas of the ship.  It's on the SFX channel because dialogue is reserved for spoken lines from characters over specific channels for each character in a given conversation.

Either could be the case.  The beautiful and frustrating thing about a game like this, with clues as to the true nature of the story, is that we risk reading too much into random stuff, and we also risk missing out on stuff because we worry about reading too much into stuff 

[IronSabbath88]

I hear what you're saying, I just wanted to see if anyone else heard what I did.. odd.

[Krimzie]

Re: the war room ambiance, I wonder if they use the junk tracks from VO sessions to fill the atmosphere. Then you very well might have heard Jen Hale saying "you got it," or other jibberish and laughing.

That ambiance of walking sounds because of the model walking outside of the ship is creepy though.

Oh, and is anyone else having issues with Origin deciding to redownload certain ME2 DLCs every time you log on? It might be doing it for ME3 for me too, but I haven't let it run its course long enough because I'm an impatient little bastard. But I'm trying to let it resume re-downloading Arrival and LotSB and those two specifically keep giving me alerts that "Sorry, Origin is currently using this folder and such and such." But... but I have no games running. AND when I paused the DL to play ME2, I did LotSB. Wah.

I am so confused. My sleep-deprived excitable brain is like PUZZLE THEORY! but it's probably just stupid Origin cloud stuff eating my gaming time ragerageRAGE

Modifié par Krimzie, 24 novembre 2012 - 08:14 .

[BleedingUranium]

Davik Kang wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...
Davik, the last thing I want to do is sound foolish but yeah, I thought at first "must be just the crewmates talking amongst themselves.."

Until I turned music and dialogue both to 0 and kept only the SFX up and I could STILL hear it. Clear as crystal, not to mention that sounded very distant, not close by.

Ah ok.

It definitely has that kind of 'dream ambience' to it.  I can only think of 2 things for now:

1 - it's another example of things not really being what they seem - we're hearing whispers, conversations, ideas that aren't really happening in our present situation; or

2 - it was a way of making the Normandy feel more alive by recording a more ambient type of sound for the more populated areas of the ship.  It's on the SFX channel because dialogue is reserved for spoken lines from characters over specific channels for each character in a given conversation.

Either could be the case.  The beautiful and frustrating thing about a game like this, with clues as to the true nature of the story, is that we risk reading too much into random stuff, and we also risk missing out on stuff because we worry about reading too much into stuff 

If someone can figure out the dialogue, then we'll know which of those it most likely is.

[IronSabbath88]

It all sounded very surreal and really creeped me out.. dare I say it sounded like a fight was still going on.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Gwyphon wrote...

Does synthesis give us the ability to understand, or force us to? Honestly I don't feel as if I can comment on the details of synthesis until Bioware give us a little more understanding.

One thing is certain, Synthesis has to change how people think in at least some way because I doubt the entire Galaxy would just run with a forgive an forget mentality in regards to the Reapers who has already murdered millions in this cycle alone.

Ad the moment we assume such a change took place the quotes from the Heretic mission in ME2, especially Jack´s: "If you screwed with my head, made me nod and smile at eveyrthing...idd rather you just blew my head of. Let me die as me." become quite disturbing.

To put it this way, running with that quote the litteral Synthesis might be the biggest genocide of all.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 24 novembre 2012 - 08:41 .

[Krimzie]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

Does synthesis give us the ability to understand, or force us to? Honestly I don't feel as if I can comment on the details of synthesis until Bioware give us a little more understanding.

One thing is certain, Synthesis has to change how people think in at least some way because I doubt the entire Galaxy would just run with a forgive an forget mentality in regards to the Reapers who has already murdered millions in this cycle alone.

Pre-EC describes that synthesis puts energy of  Shep "into a new framework. A new... DNA." EC adds "Your organic energy, the essence of who and what you are, will be broken down and then dispersed. The energy of the Crucible, released in this way, will alter the matrix of all organic life in the galaxy." Integrating fully with synthetic technology... sounds a lot like forming a consensus. 

BUT ANYWAY, the thing I always noticed is that "..." before "DNA." To me, that pause makes it clear that synth has nothing to DO with DNA (which makes the fact that BW gives no consideration to the "science" of it totally acceptable), and the Catalyst was just phrasing it in a way familiar to Shep. Synth alters the "framework" and allows "integration" and alters the "matrix" of life. And one does not simply toss around the word "matrix" in a post-Matrix popular culture without intending the implications (to SOME extent, at least. Not saying that everyone's in a Matrix virutal reality, but... it's also what I AM saying).

So yeah. I totally agree with you that synth has to change how people think -- but I'm gonna go one step further and say that it creates a new framework made ONLY out of thinking. No true corporeality. Every being is a platform with one kind of programming. Bam. Consensus. Bam. End of evolution. 

Modifié par Krimzie, 24 novembre 2012 - 09:03 .

[Gwyphon]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

Does synthesis give us the ability to understand, or force us to? Honestly I don't feel as if I can comment on the details of synthesis until Bioware give us a little more understanding.

One thing is certain, Synthesis has to change how people think in at least some way because I doubt the entire Galaxy would just run with a forgive an forget mentality in regards to the Reapers who has already murdered millions in this cycle alone.

Ad the moment we assume such a change took place the quotes from the Heretic mission in ME2, especially Jack´s: "If you screwed with my head, made me nod and smile at eveyrthing...idd rather you just blew my head of. Let me die as me." become quite disturbing.

To put it this way, running with that quote the litteral Synthesis might be the biggest genocide of all.

Galaxy-wide indoctrination 

[paxxton]

magnetite wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Wikipedia to the rescue.
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Dark_energy

I guess so. Some TV shows tried to explain how a wormhole works using a "worm burrowing through an apple" (Stargate SG-1). I don't remember, but it was a pretty simple explanation without using some sort of elaborate math and physics equation.

Another useful visualization is to fold a piece of paper in half and then make a hole through it with a pencil. The piece of paper represents space and the hole is basically a wormhole.

Modifié par paxxton, 24 novembre 2012 - 09:17 .

[dorktainian]

can i throw in my ''test'' theory where actually the whole thing (from ME1 to ME3) is in fact a test of shepard? Anderson & Udina flag this right at the start of ME1.

Or am i Nuts?

[MWMike2011]

So...if I'm reading this correctly, it sounds like we are getting at LEAST three, POSSIBLY four more SP DLCs...

"Working on [redacted] instead of [redacted2] today, despite me thinking I'd get to [redacted2]. Ended up having to help out with [redacted3]"

Now, from what was mentioned over on the Twitter Thread, it might VERY WELL be that all three of these are, in fact, single player. I believe that Gamble even mentioned on Twitter that Hendriks is no longer working on MP DLC and only on SP. I'm getting the VERY distinct impression that Retaliation might have wound up being the last MP DLC and they are focusing solely on SP and ME4 at this point, with the occasional release of a new character or a new map, but not a whole new system or named MP DLC release. Here's hoping something BIG and IT related is being cooked up over there!