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[ThisOneIsPunny]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Oh btw a little headsup on the Talons for the ones of you who didn't read the books and have no idea what they are:
It's a Turian merc gang (who would have known by that name )
They are basically the rivals of Aria, they started out small, but their presence on Omega grew so big they are basically the only thread Aria has to worry about from a rival to take over Omega.
They are the only gang on Omega independent of Aria.
Because of that they there frequently used by Cerberus to rent docking bays and housing so it didn't fell under Arias radar.

Wow, so they really do have a stake in retaking Omega. I'm particularly interested in that last part and how everything went to butts later.

The how is explained in the Invasion comic.

Even the Talon part? I never see anything talking about them when I try to look for more information on Invasion.

[masster blaster]

Morning guys. So do you think that Omega trailer will come out a day before the release, to make sure people arr excited to get Omega, and buy it.

[masster blaster]

Also get ready for mark 4 by next week.

[ajk_Jack]

masster blaster wrote...

Morning guys. So do you think that Omega trailer will come out a day before the release, to make sure people arr excited to get Omega, and buy it.

Yeah, I'm guessing a Monday release on that trailer Gamble was talking about. 

[paxxton]

masster blaster wrote...

Morning guys. So do you think that Omega trailer will come out a day before the release, to make sure people arr excited to get Omega, and buy it.

I don't think they are going to release it during the weekend, so the only day that's left is Monday. To release it on Tuesday would be ludicrous.

Modifié par paxxton, 24 novembre 2012 - 04:50 .

[IronSabbath88]

I swore not to buy any ME3 DLC until the ending had some sense added to it at least or it went on sale.

Wouldn't you know it, Leviathan was half price yesterday.

It was good for 400.. glad I didn't pay full price though.

[masster blaster]

So Omega comes out next week. Man I wonder if TIM or Harbinger will be in this dlc? Also I wonder what assets we will get. For some reason we got more assets in Leviathan, and I am wondering why Bioware keeps adding war assets. I see no point, unless they are planing something.

[IronSabbath88]

masster blaster wrote...

So Omega comes out next week. Man I wonder if TIM or Harbinger will be in this dlc? Also I wonder what assets we will get. For some reason we got more assets in Leviathan, and I am wondering why Bioware keeps adding war assets. I see no point, unless they are planing something.

Not to mention they lowered the amount of war assets needed to get the "best" endings, so they definitely want more people to be able to easily get the better outcomes for some reason.

[spotlessvoid]

I don't agree with Megumi about IT in it's most popular form being disproved, but she does make a point I've brought up several times. There's a difference between showing all the foreshadowing against control and synthesis, showing starchild is lying, showing the ending is filled with intentional oddities, and outright proving the end was entirely a hallucination. Like most of you, I have my reasons for thinking the end being a hallucination is the most logical possibility, but that is far from a given. As Megumi also points out, there is the possibility that it's intentionally open ended and that there is no right answer. Personally, I think taking into account all the statements made in the weeks immediately before launch, and given my interpretation of what occurs during the end, that there is more to it and that additional content should be coming. Again though, this position isn't nearly as strong as our dismantling of the control and synthesis options. Still think IT is the only theory that makes sense of some otherwise massive plot holes, but I'm willing to concede that maybe Bioware did make some pretty big mistakes. Time will tell.

[masster blaster]

What I find funny is that for some reason the breath scene was about 4000- 5000 war assets. Yes Synthesis was about 2754 or 2758. So I say why have the breath scene at such a high level, if Synthesis is the best ending? I know they lowered the breath scene to about 3296- 3958 because people complained about not having enough war assets because they didn't know how to make the right chocies, or even promote some characters from MP into SP. Yes I know some people complained about not haveing the breath scene because some players don't have internet connection and their galactic readiness is 50 percent.

[IronSabbath88]

To be honest, I'd be way more agitated if they intentionally left the ending open. I'd rather them tell us that "yes, take it literal" then say "Oh, it COULD be literal.. or it could be IT! It's up to you!"

Because that would just anger me. Give the trilogy a damned ending. Sure I WOULD prefer the "everything is not as it seems" ending and I certainly hope more is coming (hell at this point I'm pretty sure something more IS coming, but time will tell)

But if you're going to pull this b/s "it is what you want it to be" card, I am done. That to me is a whole lot worse than a definitive ending. Especially since most fans have shown they want a sequel, you're not going to be able to do a sequel set in the future with that kind of non answer. We need a definitive yes or no as to what the ending is and I REALLY wish BioWare would just up and tell us already.

The fact that they haven't said otherwise makes me definitely think there's more to come more than any other clues, they just REFUSE to talk about the ending in any capacity now. Hopefully this changes in the future when all DLC is finally out.

[munnellyladt]

masster blaster wrote...

What I find funny is that for some reason the breath scene was about 4000- 5000 war assets. Yes Synthesis was about 2754 or 2758. So I say why have the breath scene at such a high level, if Synthesis is the best ending? I know they lowered the breath scene to about 3296- 3958 because people complained about not having enough war assets because they didn't know how to make the right chocies, or even promote some characters from MP into SP. Yes I know some people complained about not haveing the breath scene because some players don't have internet connection and their galactic readiness is 50 percent.

I was thinking that myself,how synthesis is the so called "best ending"but yet the breath scene can only be got if you get a certain amount of assets.
I find it strange....
Stranger than the ending in general.

[MaximizedAction]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I don't agree with Megumi about IT in it's most popular form being disproved, but she does make a point I've brought up several times. There's a difference between showing all the foreshadowing against control and synthesis, showing starchild is lying, showing the ending is filled with intentional oddities, and outright proving the end was entirely a hallucination. Like most of you, I have my reasons for thinking the end being a hallucination is the most logical possibility, but that is far from a given. As Megumi also points out, there is the possibility that it's intentionally open ended and that there is no right answer. Personally, I think taking into account all the statements made in the weeks immediately before launch, and given my interpretation of what occurs during the end, that there is more to it and that additional content should be coming. Again though, this position isn't nearly as strong as our dismantling of the control and synthesis options. Still think IT is the only theory that makes sense of some otherwise massive plot holes, but I'm willing to concede that maybe Bioware did make some pretty big mistakes. Time will tell.

And I too think that IT, as in Shepard/we didn't see things as they are in reality (assuming the story isn't a 2deep4u it's only a metaphor for blahblahblah but allows being interpretated literally). And I wouldn't expect it any differently from the Reapers. The only question is and will remain until Bioware helps us out is: Was there any outcome of our choice? And if so, what was the outcome? Because, frankly speaking, the player/audience cannot be expected to see something as legit and real, just seconds ago, you were talking to a Reaper representative.

So my ultimate standpoint remains:
Shepard was being indoctrinated: yea! Was the outcome legit or not: hm...

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 24 novembre 2012 - 05:18 .

[masster blaster]

Ladt what is also funny is that for the 4000 war assets it was to save Anderson, well not literaly, but enough for you and him to have a chat. Which unlocks the breath scene. Then there was the 5000 war assets, and it'f for if Anderson dies your Shepard can still live without the chat with Anderson. Why is it such a big deal for just to have a small chat with Anderson, or need war assets to even unlock it?

[FifthBeatle]

Hey everybody, happy (belated) thanksgiving.

I was re-reading Liara's homeworld comic when I caught that there are three ancient Prothean archives - Mars, one that was deleted from the records (presumably Thessia), and one unknown. I assume that the unknown one has to be Omega, right?

[masster blaster]

What I also find funny is that Bioware makes sure in ME3, we don't forget about Harrbinger.

There is a codex on Harbinger.
He is attacking Earth/leading the Reapers on Earth.
The Destroy Reaper. Tells us that,Harbinger speaks about Shepard to the Reapers.
Leviathan confirms that Harbinger is the first true Reaper, but it's holding some info back about the Crucible/ Harbinger.
We have an option to ask the Catalyst about Harbinger, but it's very brief. I guess it doesn't want to talk about Harbinger.
Harbinger is going down to Earth to stop Shepard from reaching the Conduit.

So in a sense Harbinger is not being forgotten, but people have to realize why Harbinger does not talk in ME3.

If Harbinger is the Leader of the Reapers, then he has to plan where to Harvest/ strike, send Reaper to where, and when, plan to Indoctrinate Shepard in his/her dreams, tell Cerberus what to do, set the traps for Shepard to find as he/she gathers assets for the Crucible, and plan the grand event for Shepard, to finalize the Indoctrination that is now strong enough for Harbinger to create the ultimate illusion.

[munnellyladt]

masster blaster wrote...

Ladt what is also funny is that for the 4000 war assets it was to save Anderson, well not literaly, but enough for you and him to have a chat. Which unlocks the breath scene. Then there was the 5000 war assets, and it'f for if Anderson dies your Shepard can still live without the chat with Anderson. Why is it such a big deal for just to have a small chat with Anderson, or need war assets to even unlock it?

I hope it's because Anderson is the good(or his normal) side,and that if both parts of shepard are killed then he dies him/herself.
And I prefer to be called munnelly.

[Davik Kang]

Krimzie wrote...
So yeah. I totally agree with you that synth has to change how people think -- but I'm gonna go one step further and say that it creates a new framework made ONLY out of thinking. No true corporeality. Every being is a platform with one kind of programming. Bam. Consensus. Bam. End of evolution. 

Yeah that's extremely similar to what I think Syntesis represents too.  And the reason I don't think it actually makes that much difference if it's real or imaginary - if everything, even the leaves, comprise circuitry now, and we are all composed of the same DNA, then what physical processes remain?  It could mean we are one and the same as the galaxy itself, and the only thing to process is our thoughts.  Everything else becomes meaningless.  So Either way it would be like a huge "Geth concensus" type future.

MegumiAzusa wrote...
Note the difference in the first few, and last few frames
Virmire
It starts with Sovereign and ends with it. Also in the video you linked it's much more holographic/undefined [1] vs [2]

This got me thinking... I wonder if the vision we see in the beacon is Synthesis?  Synthetic and organic material twisted together... energy coming from the CItadel... humanoid creatures being spontaneously ... somethinged...

[IronSabbath88]

FifthBeatle wrote...

Hey everybody, happy (belated) thanksgiving.

I was re-reading Liara's homeworld comic when I caught that there are three ancient Prothean archives - Mars, one that was deleted from the records (presumably Thessia), and one unknown. I assume that the unknown one has to be Omega, right?

That could be a definite possibility.

Someone mentioned here that Omega does kind of look like a failed attempt at building the Crucible aswell. For all BioWare has shown us about Omega, it appears to just be fighting Cerberus and kicking them out of Omega but for 4 hours there HAS to be more to it. Plus they basically showed us a picture of Aria putting a chokehold on Petrovsky which you would ASSUME to be the ending, but it can't be because they wouldn't show you that.

There's definitely a hidden agenda here.

[masster blaster]

Wait a minute the Catalyst is also lying to Shepard again. In Javiks cycle the where building the crucible right, but the Catalyst says they destroyed the Crucible/ the blue prints seven cycles ago right, yet it's not really surpised that the Crucible is still around.

But it acted like it never actually exsisted for about 7 cycles, yet in the prothean cycle they were building the crucible so the brat should have knowne that the crucible was still around and should have taken care of it. we also know that the Reaper were on Mars during the Prothean cycle.

Remeber that Prothean object in ME1, that shows Shepard a human on Mars, and the Protheans we experimenting on, yet the Reapers came, and killed the Human. So They were on Mars before, so if the Crucible desgin was on Mars, and the Reapers Destroyed the Protheans on Mars, then wow.

[RavenEyry]

FifthBeatle wrote...

Hey everybody, happy (belated) thanksgiving.
 

And a belated happy perfectly normal thursday to you;)

[IronSabbath88]

Perhaps Omega IS the Prothean attempt at the Crucible?

Okay, now I'm stretching it. Where are those straws? xD

[RavenEyry]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Perhaps Omega IS the Prothean attempt at the Crucible?

Okay, now I'm stretching it. Where are those straws? xD

It's been considered before but omega was mostly built in this cycle. Doesn't mean it wasn't someone else's attempt at a crucible though.

[masster blaster]

Raven also it is sort of reveled that the Reapers built Omega. Now before people start bashing me hear me out. Let's say the people that built Omega were Indoctrinated, and they bult Omega for some reason. Now it's possible the Collectors helped build Omega, and maybe it's a cloning base for Collectors/ a capsal for Protheans to become Collectors.

It's just a thought, but maybe.

[Davik Kang]

masster blaster wrote...
What I also find funny is that Bioware makes sure in ME3, we don't forget about Harrbinger.

There is a codex on Harbinger.
He is attacking Earth/leading the Reapers on Earth.
The Destroy Reaper. Tells us that,Harbinger speaks about Shepard to the Reapers.
Leviathan confirms that Harbinger is the first true Reaper, but it's holding some info back about the Crucible/ Harbinger.
We have an option to ask the Catalyst about Harbinger, but it's very brief. I guess it doesn't want to talk about Harbinger.
Harbinger is going down to Earth to stop Shepard from reaching the Conduit.

So in a sense Harbinger is not being forgotten, but people have to realize why Harbinger does not talk in ME3.

This is a really good point.  It certainly suggests that Harbinger would be used for more than just a failed doorstop for the beam run.  You guys do make a very strong case for the Kid being Harbinger (or at least the product of his mind subversion attempt).

RavenEyry wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Perhaps Omega IS the Prothean attempt at the Crucible?

Okay, now I'm stretching it. Where are those straws? xD

It's been considered before but omega was mostly built in this cycle. Doesn't mean it wasn't someone else's attempt at a crucible though.

I think it was built upon in this cycle, but already existed (as an asteroid or something?)  Could be like Charon (the moon above Pluto that encased a hidden Relay).  I have said this before, I expect there's at least a 50% chance that Omega is a previous version of either the Citadel or the Crucible.

Modifié par Davik Kang, 24 novembre 2012 - 05:45 .