80611 réponses à ce sujet

[Rifneno]

Oh yeah, and how about the one where they said there'd be a Reapers win ending... and then "clarified" that they meant the critical mission failure screen?

[titusrsoooooo1337]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

*continues playthrough*

Got another.

Javik: "Your species thought the Protheans built the mass relays. The Reapers are cunning in their deceptiveness. Letting us flourish for centuries and centuries, believing ourselves to be masters of the cosmos. Then the truth becomes known. There are monsters out there in the darkness, preying on us."

Replace Reapers with Bioware and this explains that they're deceiving us by letting us think we won and are masters of the cosmos (endings), and they make us wait forever, believing that. Then eventually they will reveal the Reapers are still out there, and it's not over.

The sad truth is, I actually beleive you're right. After all the lying we've seen Bioware do, I wouldn't doubt for a second that they are actually just going to continue the story. Just look what happened to Halo..

Not saying it would be a bad thing, because I'd love to play another Mass Effect

[ajk_Jack]

byne wrote...

So many of the quotes from people are so off from the game we got that I wonder if any of them actually played the version that got released, or if they have some special version that doesnt suck.

Mass Effect 3: Super Special Better-Than-What-You-Got Edition

Modifié par ajk_Jack, 25 novembre 2012 - 07:23 .

[Andromidius]

http://social.biowar.../index/15025403

How can a thread about Multiplayer banners attract IT bashing? Seriously. Come on now.

[masster blaster]

Morning guys. TSA Archer, and Starbuck8 are together, massive dlc coming after Omega. Maybe the Citadel dlc. DD's new found theory,arguments with eachother/with literalist/semi trolls, and I at so much pie on thanksgiving.

[DoomsdayDevice]

Reposting, got caught on bottom of the page:

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

*continues playthrough*

Got another.

Javik: "Your species thought the Protheans built the mass relays. The Reapers are cunning in their deceptiveness. Letting us flourish for centuries and centuries, believing ourselves to be masters of the cosmos. Then the truth becomes known. There are monsters out there in the darkness, preying on us."

Replace Reapers with Bioware and this explains that they're deceiving us by letting us think we won and are masters of the cosmos (endings), and they make us wait forever, believing that. Then eventually they will reveal the Reapers are still out there, and it's not over.

This quote nicely supplements this:

Garrus (after Grissom Academy) : "If they're lucky, they grew up thinking the galaxy is basically a decent place.Some rough spots here and there, but for the most part, life makes sense. Now they find out it was all a lie.They wake up to see these things in the dark that just want to destroy everyone they ever cared about.If they survive, there'll be a lot of angry orphans out there looking for answers."

#icalledIT

From Ashes is the DLC that foreshadows the return of Shepard, who (like Javik), will rise from ashes, as an avatar of vengeance.

Hence the name of the DLC (it has a double meaning, like everything in the DLC) and all the revelations and hints in the From Ashes content, the Eden Prime datapads, to Shepard's return and the war not being over.

Mind = blown?

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 25 novembre 2012 - 07:38 .

[RavenEyry]

Andromidius wrote...

How can a thread about Multiplayer banners attract IT bashing? Seriously. Come on now.

Because people don't know when something stops being funny.

[CmdrShep80]

byne wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

just like they said me3 would give you many different endings..........

And the Rahcni would have a huge impact on the ending, always loved that one

I always liked the people who, even after the game came out, insisted there were actually 16 different endings.

there are according to the strategy guide, 16 different events based on EMS. Guess you must like me now lol

[Rifneno]

RavenEyry wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

How can a thread about Multiplayer banners attract IT bashing? Seriously. Come on now.

Because people don't know when something stops being funny.

"I used to have a functional sense of humor but then I took an arrow to the knee lulz im so original"

[RavenEyry]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

there are according to the strategy guide, 16 different events based on EMS. Guess you must like me now lol

Raven already mentioned the guide!

And he's me!

[masster blaster]

So now people bash IT on the MP forums. So they can't come into this thread and bash IT, but they will bash peopls banners in mp, that have IT banners. Oh come on. You don't see us bashing the Controls, and Synthesisers banners. I would like to, but there no point. They are just banners. It's not like they really do anything.

[MaximizedAction]

byne wrote...

So many of the quotes from people are so off from the game we got that I wonder if any of them actually played the version that got released, or if they have some special version that doesnt suck.

My exact thoughts on the day after I finished my first playthrough.

[ajk_Jack]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Reposting, got caught on bottom of the page:

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

*continues playthrough*

Got another.

Javik: "Your species thought the Protheans built the mass relays. The Reapers are cunning in their deceptiveness. Letting us flourish for centuries and centuries, believing ourselves to be masters of the cosmos. Then the truth becomes known. There are monsters out there in the darkness, preying on us."

Replace Reapers with Bioware and this explains that they're deceiving us by letting us think we won and are masters of the cosmos (endings), and they make us wait forever, believing that. Then eventually they will reveal the Reapers are still out there, and it's not over.

This quote nicely supplements this:

Garrus (after Grissom Academy) : "If they're lucky, they grew up thinking the galaxy is basically a decent place.Some rough spots here and there, but for the most part, life makes sense. Now they find out it was all a lie.They wake up to see these things in the dark that just want to destroy everyone they ever cared about.If they survive, there'll be a lot of angry orphans out there looking for answers."

#icalledIT

From Ashes is the DLC that foreshadows the return of Shepard, who (like Javik), will rise from ashes, as an avatar of vengeance.

Hence the name of the DLC (it has a double meaning, like everything in the DLC) and all the revelations and hints in the From Ashes content to Shepard's return and the war not being over.

Mind = blown?

It's a possibility, and could very well be correct. Taking From Ashes at face value is kinda hard to do. It was short, and gave you a Prothean squadmate. You would think being able to talk to a living, breathing Prothean would be a bigger deal than it was in the game. Nevertheless, comparing Javik and Shepard, and saying that From Ashes is foreshadowing, could indeed have been the intention of the DLC in the first place. By making it DLC instead of a built-in mission, it gets you prepared (perhaps unconsiously) for later DLC and what could be BioWare's overall plan for the DLC lifecycle. 

[masster blaster]

Hey guys Liara is in Paragon lost.

[Andromidius]

SwobyJ wrote...
It's frustrating explaining this to people who don't care to even begin to think about foreshadowing

Or don't understand what foreshadowing even is, and refuse to learn.

[Andromidius]

ajk_Jack wrote...
It's a possibility, and could very well be correct. Taking From Ashes at face value is kinda hard to do. It was short, and gave you a Prothean squadmate. You would think being able to talk to a living, breathing Prothean would be a bigger deal than it was in the game. Nevertheless, comparing Javik and Shepard, and saying that From Ashes is foreshadowing, could indeed have been the intention of the DLC in the first place. By making it DLC instead of a built-in mission, it gets you prepared (perhaps unconsiously) for later DLC and what could be BioWare's overall plan for the DLC lifecycle. 

Makes me wonder why no-one really made a big deal about Javik.  Even when he was on the Citadel, only THREE people approached him to ask if he really was a Prothean.

[RavenEyry]

Andromidius wrote...

Makes me wonder why no-one really made a big deal about Javik.  Even when he was on the Citadel, only THREE people approached him to ask if he really was a Prothean.

Prothean appearance is probably not common knowledge, and he does have that thing with Liara.

To me the oddest thing about him is the living breathing prothean being DLC.

[byne]

Andromidius wrote...

ajk_Jack wrote...
It's a possibility, and could very well be correct. Taking From Ashes at face value is kinda hard to do. It was short, and gave you a Prothean squadmate. You would think being able to talk to a living, breathing Prothean would be a bigger deal than it was in the game. Nevertheless, comparing Javik and Shepard, and saying that From Ashes is foreshadowing, could indeed have been the intention of the DLC in the first place. By making it DLC instead of a built-in mission, it gets you prepared (perhaps unconsiously) for later DLC and what could be BioWare's overall plan for the DLC lifecycle. 

Makes me wonder why no-one really made a big deal about Javik.  Even when he was on the Citadel, only THREE people approached him to ask if he really was a Prothean.

To be fair, I dont think anyone actually knows what a prothean looks like. Remember when you first find out the Collectors are protheans in ME2 and the Cerberus crew on the Normandy says they always imagined protheans would have looked different?

[GethPrimeMKII]

Andromidius wrote...

ajk_Jack wrote...
It's a possibility, and could very well be correct. Taking From Ashes at face value is kinda hard to do. It was short, and gave you a Prothean squadmate. You would think being able to talk to a living, breathing Prothean would be a bigger deal than it was in the game. Nevertheless, comparing Javik and Shepard, and saying that From Ashes is foreshadowing, could indeed have been the intention of the DLC in the first place. By making it DLC instead of a built-in mission, it gets you prepared (perhaps unconsiously) for later DLC and what could be BioWare's overall plan for the DLC lifecycle. 

Makes me wonder why no-one really made a big deal about Javik.  Even when he was on the Citadel, only THREE people approached him to ask if he really was a Prothean.

I always figured nobody in this cycle would know enough about protheans to immediately identify Javik as one. I suppose the people on the Citadel thought it safer to stay away from Javik rather than approach him.

[ajk_Jack]

Andromidius wrote...

Makes me wonder why no-one really made a big deal about Javik.  Even when he was on the Citadel, only THREE people approached him to ask if he really was a Prothean.

You would think it would at least have made the evening galactic news...
However, no one said that Shepard really told anyone he/she didn't trust that he was running around with a Prothean, and many people wouldn't know one if the they saw one.
But in any case, the foreshadowing of Javik's purpose as Shepard's parallel from another cycle is made clear. 

Modifié par ajk_Jack, 25 novembre 2012 - 07:54 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Andromidius wrote...

ajk_Jack wrote...
It's a possibility, and could very well be correct. Taking From Ashes at face value is kinda hard to do. It was short, and gave you a Prothean squadmate. You would think being able to talk to a living, breathing Prothean would be a bigger deal than it was in the game. Nevertheless, comparing Javik and Shepard, and saying that From Ashes is foreshadowing, could indeed have been the intention of the DLC in the first place. By making it DLC instead of a built-in mission, it gets you prepared (perhaps unconsiously) for later DLC and what could be BioWare's overall plan for the DLC lifecycle. 

Makes me wonder why no-one really made a big deal about Javik.  Even when he was on the Citadel, only THREE people approached him to ask if he really was a Prothean.

A combination of bigger things to worry about, awe and nervousness possibly. It is a Prothean, a real live Prothean and standing next to Commander Shepard. I would stare if I saw it, probably looking really stupid in the process, but I dont think i could gather the courage to actually address such a duo.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 25 novembre 2012 - 07:54 .

[Andromidius]

While true, a new species showing up alongside Commander Shepard should surely raise eyebrows and get people talking. And once word got out that he really is a Prothean... Well, imagine scenes resembling the one in Matrix Reloaded (god, this comparison again...) where Neo gets out of a lift in Zion and people are crowded around waiting so they can see or touch him.

[Eryri]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

What else could ME4 possibly be except a direct sequel? It'd be pretty hard to dream up an enemy more menacing than the reapers.

Also, the war in ME3 has gone on for at most 3-5 months. It'd be foolish to think that a galaxy less advanced, although more diverse, than the prothean cycle, would be able to defeat the reapers in less than a year.

The protheans fought for centuries against the reapers. We may have a completed crucible by the end of ME3, but its highly unlikely that this device will work as advertised, which is to say its very likely the crucible is a trap.

They wouldnt necesarily have to go with a more deadly enemy in a sequel. Sometimes I think it is okay to cut back and take a different approach.

Like a game focused on the aftermaths of the war, the war torn galaxy where the old mighty races have fallen from graze (the mighty Turian military is practically gone, the Asari are revealed to have been hoarding Prothean Tech and the Salarians have internal struggles as well as potentially not really doing much in the war) and new races (Krogan, Geth, Quarians and Rahcni) are rising to fill the void of power now open. Combine it with the Batarian systems pratcially wiped out and up for grabs and slavage of both Reaper and other races floating about in huge amounts even as the galaxy tries to find ist footing again.

Imagine playing a race of your choice and watching (and obviusly) helping the Galaxy rebuild, shaping its path as you do, helping determine who will rise to power.

I could see that beeing very interesting.

Re possible new big bads for ME 4 : I always wondered what it was that drove the synthetics created by the Leviathan's thralls to rebel?

Maybe there could be some other force in the universe that hates both organic and synthetic life, and periodically pits them against each other in the hope that they will wipe each other out? This force could have corrupted the Leviathan's Intelligence and spurred it on to create Harbinger. It then sat back for a few million years, content with the destruction the Reapers were wreaking on the galaxy. But now that its proxies have been defeated, it's decided to take a more "hands on" approach to universal destruction.

I've mentioned this before in the thread, but I once read a book by a sci-fi novelist called Steven Baxter, which featured a weird species of Dark Matter-based creatures, who were capable of passing unharmed through the cores of stars. They were deliberately aging them prematurely to accelerate the heat death of the universe, thereby eliminating all life made of normal matter. I wonder if that was what inspired them to write the Haestrom dying star subplot?

Modifié par Eryri, 25 novembre 2012 - 07:59 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

The exact quote is:

Javik: "It seems you believed Protheans built the mass relays. The Reapers are cunning in their deception. Allowing life to flourish, century upon century, letting us believe ourselves the masters of the cosmos. Then the truth becomes known. There are monsters in the dark spaces. And we are their prey."

The great thing about IT being true would be that, for once, the conspiracy theorists got it right!