umadcommander wrote...
byne wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
Are you telling me that people actually expected this "movie" to be good?
I expected it to get at least basic things like the location of the Citadel correct, yes.
and the fact sovereign is in sevral thousand pieces
demersel wrote...
It could be citadel over earth after destroy finale of ME3.... or am i missing some context here?
spotlessvoid wrote...
This is absolutely piling on, but wtf? Is that seriously supposed to be Sovereign?
What are you talking about?spotlessvoid wrote...
This is absolutely piling on, but wtf? Is that seriously supposed to be Sovereign?
byne wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
Are you telling me that people actually expected this "movie" to be good?
I expected it to get at least basic things like the location of the Citadel correct, yes.
byne wrote...
demersel wrote...
It could be citadel over earth after destroy finale of ME3.... or am i missing some context here?
The clip in which that is shown takes place before ME3 even starts.spotlessvoid wrote...
This is absolutely piling on, but wtf? Is that seriously supposed to be Sovereign?
Yes.
paxxton wrote...
What are you talking about?spotlessvoid wrote...
This is absolutely piling on, but wtf? Is that seriously supposed to be Sovereign?
Either something suspicious is going on with James 'What's that hum' Vega or bad third party animation is bad.Arashi08 wrote...
If Vega knew Liara, why did he point his gun at her on Mars?
No, it's just a retrospective scene.masster blaster wrote...
paxxton wrote...
What are you talking about?spotlessvoid wrote...
This is absolutely piling on, but wtf? Is that seriously supposed to be Sovereign?
HE is in Paragon lost, but he is not all over the Citadel. He is whole. And to top it off Cerberus ships, or Alliance ships are towing Nazara away.
Possible last cycle flashback? Either that film is going to be the worst thing ever or the best thing ever.byne wrote...
That clip... I dont even...
Hey, remember that time the Citadel went to some random planet, turned off all its lights, and towed a totally intact Sovereign somewhere?
ME NEITHER!
I'm just saying that the Catalyst may be a collective construct combining memories and experiences of thousands upon thousands of individuals.spotlessvoid wrote...
Paxxton
Now you're okay with just influencing the catalyst? What happens if he says "ok, seeen enough. This isn't working. Harbinger! Begin the harvest!"
paxxton wrote...
I'm just saying that the Catalyst may be a collective construct combining memories and experiences of thousands upon thousands of individuals.spotlessvoid wrote...
Paxxton
Now you're okay with just influencing the catalyst? What happens if he says "ok, seeen enough. This isn't working. Harbinger! Begin the harvest!"
RavenEyry wrote...
Possible last cycle flashback? Either that film is going to be the worst thing ever or the best thing ever.byne wrote...
That clip... I dont even...
Hey, remember that time the Citadel went to some random planet, turned off all its lights, and towed a totally intact Sovereign somewhere?
ME NEITHER!
masster blaster wrote...
Here are some particularly notable quotes I found in Arrival and my analysis of them. Considering Mac Walters wrote Arrival along with the beginning and ending of ME3, I think the connections are especially worth discussion.
"Scientist: I woke up this morning in a cold sweat. The nightmare was back, the one with the enormous starship crawling through the Citadel and all my friends turning to dust. Even now I can see it in my mind. Why won't this stop?"
I'm sure I don't need to tell you this connects to Shepard's recurring dreams in ME3. Both dreams imply helplessness on the part of the dreamer by showing them unable to help someone they care about. The scientist also says "the nightmare was back," meaning that the dreams are infrequent, like Shepard's
"Guard: When it's silent, when there's no one else around, I can hear it. Whispers in the back of my mind, and I can't tell what they're saying."
He can hear the Reapers communicating with him, but he can't make out what they are actually saying. This reminded me of that Reaper sound effect that sounds similar to "serve us" or "save us."
"Guard: Kenson's acting strang lately. Like she doesn't care about the Project anymore. And I know I'm not the only one having those dreams. 'The Reapers are coming,' she says. But I'm not sure if I'm hearing far or hope in her voice."
This quote shows that the dreams are not a unique occurrence.
"Dr. Kenson: The longer we're here, the more I'm convinced that the Project must be stopped. We simply don't know enough about what the Reapers want. It's foolish to assume that the Reapers mean doom for the galaxy. Legends say they've come through before, and yet life continues, doesn't it?"
So the most clearly indoctrinated person on the Project staff started to sympathize with the Reapers and wanted to learn more about their motives.
"Dr. Kenson: I will die never having seen the Reapers' blessings. And you will just die."
This quote struck me as odd. It may just be structured awkwardly, but it could also imply that Shepard will see the "Reapers' blessings" before dying.
"Harbinger: This seems a victory to you. A star system sacrificed. But even now, your greatest civilizations are doomed to fall. Your leaders will beg to serve us."
The last sentence implies that the Reapers will let the leaders live long enough to have an opportunity to beg. This shows from Harbinger's own mouth(?) that the Reapers DO intend to indoctrinate galactic leaders instead of just kililng them. Note that Shepard could easily be considered one of those leaders in ME3.
"Harbinger: Know this as you die in vain: Your time will come. Your species will fall."
Harbinger's language takes a strange turn here. The entire game he says that the Reapers will bring human species "ascension" or "evolution" or "salvation through destruction" or they will be "brought into harmony with our own." All of a sudden, Harbinger says that our species will fall, the exact opposite of ascension. I haven't made any conclusions yet from this change in language, but I think it deserves note.
Because English doesn't have plural second-person pronouns (grrrrrr...), it's also unclear whether he means "Your (species') time will come," or "Your (Shepard's) time will come.
- Hrothdane
Modifié par masster blaster, 25 novembre 2012 - 09:05 .
MaximizedAction wrote...
I feel slightly reminded of the ME3 ending protest regarding lore breaking. I'm gonna go with us not having enough information yet to assume lore breaking.
The planet has a blue atmosphere, so could be Earth. We shall see and assemble the mob afterwards if necessary.
paxxton wrote...
I'm just saying that the Catalyst may be a collective construct combining memories and experiences of thousands upon thousands of individuals.spotlessvoid wrote...
Paxxton
Now you're okay with just influencing the catalyst? What happens if he says "ok, seeen enough. This isn't working. Harbinger! Begin the harvest!"
byne wrote...
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That clip... I dont even...
Hey, remember that time the Citadel went to some random planet, turned off all its lights, and towed a totally intact Sovereign somewhere?
ME NEITHER!
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