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[paxxton]

Shameless repost.

paxxton wrote...

I'm reposting this because it's the bridge between IT and the Literal Interpretation of Control.

paxxton wrote...

I just rewatched the Control ending linked in my sig. A thought occurred to me. The new Catalyst says that only now he understands the full extent of Shepard's sacrifice. That means he didn't understand it before and that implies he'd existed before Shepard chose Control. Taken even further, it might mean that Shepard was absorbed and incorporated into the OLD Catalyst's cognitive processes. But it also means he exerted great influence on the Catalyst. An influence that made the Reapers stop the harvest and embrace the notion that they, Organics and Synthetics can coexist..

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

dorktainian wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I do like Leviathans achievements. Conspiracy theorists. You know from that point Bioware created leviathan for IT. I mean Conspiracy theorists alone is just enough that it was for IT people. Bioware just wanted to call us that because the literalist/trolls call us Conspiracy theorists, so they went along with it as an achievement.

Jut finished my first playthrough of leviathan.  Dunno whether it confirms IT or not to be fair.  If anything it backs up star brat imo.  Whatever happened to the slick gaming that was Mass Effect 1 & 2?

Nah.  It backs up the idea of a rogue AI slaughtering its masters, who then stole the abilities of its former masters.

Which totally backs up IT, and discredits Starbinger's motives and assertions even more.

 actually....yeah.  all this 'there is no war...only the harvest' rubbish.  The reapers were intelligent enough to function without some lame ass non-strategy.  

''Harbinger talks of you''.  The reaper on rannoch.  Now if all the reapers were doing was some pre-ordained harvesting why would they communicate with each other?  They would just follow their programming.  An Intelligence would not go about slaughtering billions of sentient creatures for a trumped up excuse of a reason.  They were AI's.  Each a nation.  Intelligence beyond our understanding.  

And Legions comments regarding Nazara, how it was similar to the Geth itself supports the Reaper beeing full fledged AI.

[CmdrShep80]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

demersel wrote...

byne wrote...

demersel wrote...

Ok, so i watched the clip, and i can tell you all that we can relax - it is not techically part of the cartoon - it is a placeholder, previsualisation - that part isn't ready yet.

Right, because the clip they decided to release to promote the movie was one that they didnt finish yet. That makes sense.

It is a very common practice, really. 

Kinda like some of the stuff seen in the first Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess trailer never made it into the actual game?

I know, I hope it doesn't happen again with the Wii U tech demo

[BansheeOwnage]

Krimzie wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Right, I think it went like this:
Shepard: "I have a better solution"
or
Kid: "I am prepared to hear your solution"

I really want to know what it was!

Voilà

And he's gone, lol. 

Oh good lord, the Catalyst has such a hard-on for Synthesis in these lines!

Destroy: I know you've thought about destroying us.... But we will not be the only ones who are destroyed.
Control: It is not the solution I would choose either. But I will accept it.
Synthesis: You must choose it. For all of us.

No wonder they changed them. 

But what's up with that "Have you not come to provide your own solution?" line? Is it common practice for members of the harvested cycles to barter with the construct? Heh.

Yeah there are some really interesting ones. From what I can tell, it seems like they keep modifying the lines to sound less obvious. They do the same thing with other things too.

"And they became the first to be harvested. Though they fought us... it was the only solution."

They changed "fought" right?

[demersel]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Kinda like some of the stuff seen in the first Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess trailer never made it into the actual game?

Trailers and promotional materials for movies and cartoon often demonstrate things that do not make the final cut, and special effects in them are very often unfinished, or even not present at all - since it is the most expensive thing to do, the most time consuming, and it is the last thing to be finished before product goes into print or on air. 

Modifié par demersel, 25 novembre 2012 - 09:36 .

[Arashi08]

RavenEyry wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...
If Vega knew Liara, why did he point his gun at her on Mars?

Either something suspicious is going on with James 'What's that hum' Vega or bad third party animation is bad.

I'll go with the latter...

[BansheeOwnage]

What's happening?

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

What's happening?

Check out my awesome post.

[Arashi08]

I normally love anime, but this one always looked terrible and didn't have many VOs from the game and kind of felt like something they only made because they thought people would watch it and make money off of it. Well when I write my articles on anime as an art form, I doubt this movie will be among them...

Maybe watching Princess Mononoke will help me feel better...

[estebanus]

So, has anything new regarding the IT actually been found? Or still wating for Omega?

[masster blaster]

Nazara is in Paragon lost. He looks fine, and Vega knew Liara.

Modifié par masster blaster, 25 novembre 2012 - 09:42 .

[BansheeOwnage]

paxxton wrote...

Shameless repost.

paxxton wrote...

I'm reposting this because it's the bridge between IT and the Literal Interpretation of Control.

paxxton wrote...

I just rewatched the Control ending linked in my sig. A thought occurred to me. The new Catalyst says that only now he understands the full extent of Shepard's sacrifice. That means he didn't understand it before and that implies he'd existed before Shepard chose Control. Taken even further, it might mean that Shepard was absorbed and incorporated into the OLD Catalyst's cognitive processes. But it also means he exerted great influence on the Catalyst. An influence that made the Reapers stop the harvest and embrace the notion that they, Organics and Synthetics can coexist..

Who knows man. Who knows.

[paxxton]

Arashi08 wrote...

I normally love anime, but this one always looked terrible and didn't have many VOs from the game and kind of felt like something they only made because they thought people would watch it and make money off of it. Well when I write my articles on anime as an art form, I doubt this movie will be among them...

Maybe watching Princess Mononoke will help me feel better...

You have to see past the superficial and embrace the story. 

[ThisOneIsPunny]

BleedingUranium wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Avernus in the Aeneid is referred to as "The jaws of stinking Avernus", there was also a golden branch needed and all this bullhockey(I'm sorry, I mildly hate this story and love it due to latin) to actually get into the Underworld and THEN only Aeneas was permitted to go. His crew had to stay behind. So, Shepard going to Avernus station alone??

Also is the Elbrus actually the SSV Elbrus or is it just coincidence that the names are shared?

Oh no, not again

As for the ship, I don't think it's unlikely some Alliance soliders defected to Cerberus or that Cerberus stole the ship, so yeah, probably the same.


Also, remember that old screenshot of Omega, that was the Normandy approaching Omega beyond the Omega-4 relay? Yeah.

There may have been a sibyl that accompanied Aeneas a short way, I can't remember. Either way, Aeneas' journey into the underworld through Avernus was the Hero's Journey. So maybe there's a Hero's Journey to be had, gasp. Or another one? Yeesh, Shepard.

And yeah, I had similar thoughts about the Elbrus. I also haven't read any mass effect material outside of Revelation so I had no idea whether any distinctions were made or not.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

demersel wrote...

byne wrote...

demersel wrote...

Ok, so i watched the clip, and i can tell you all that we can relax - it is not techically part of the cartoon - it is a placeholder, previsualisation - that part isn't ready yet.

Right, because the clip they decided to release to promote the movie was one that they didnt finish yet. That makes sense.

It is a very common practice, really. 

Kinda like some of the stuff seen in the first Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess trailer never made it into the actual game?

I know, I hope it doesn't happen again with the Wii U tech demo

Dont get your hopes up then, from what i heard it was purely a Tech demo and not necesarily representive of any kind of in game graphics or events (though they neither denied it) In fact thtat they used Gohma and Link's design from Twilight Princess is pretty good indication it is not going to be in the next game as outside of the handheld games they dont seem to reuse design between the entries. Last time they did was Ocarian of Time to Majora's Mask.

Though good news is that they are aiming for a 2014 release of the next game and it has the biggest team Nintendo has ever assembled to work on single game.

[BansheeOwnage]

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

[...]

That clip... I dont even...



Hey, remember that time the Citadel went to some random planet, turned off all its lights, and towed a totally intact Sovereign somewhere?

ME NEITHER!

Wait... WHAT?

[DoomsdayDevice]

How did we never pick up on all these hints before?

Nurse in the hospital: "He can't remember his own name without the VI in his head telling him what it is. Trust me, in this place, we know dead."

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Shameless repost.

paxxton wrote...

I'm reposting this because it's the bridge between IT and the Literal Interpretation of Control.

paxxton wrote...

I just rewatched the Control ending linked in my sig. A thought occurred to me. The new Catalyst says that only now he understands the full extent of Shepard's sacrifice. That means he didn't understand it before and that implies he'd existed before Shepard chose Control. Taken even further, it might mean that Shepard was absorbed and incorporated into the OLD Catalyst's cognitive processes. But it also means he exerted great influence on the Catalyst. An influence that made the Reapers stop the harvest and embrace the notion that they, Organics and Synthetics can coexist..

Who knows man. Who knows.

Mac Walters, Casey Hudson and now all of us.

Modifié par paxxton, 25 novembre 2012 - 09:46 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Arashi08 wrote...

I normally love anime, but this one always looked terrible and didn't have many VOs from the game and kind of felt like something they only made because they thought people would watch it and make money off of it. Well when I write my articles on anime as an art form, I doubt this movie will be among them...

Maybe watching Princess Mononoke will help me feel better...

It always makes me feel better (favorite movie ever)

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

[...]

That clip... I dont even...



Hey, remember that time the Citadel went to some random planet, turned off all its lights, and towed a totally intact Sovereign somewhere?

ME NEITHER!

Wait... WHAT?

Oh dear lord... 

And here I was, actually thinking that this anime couldn't possibly be any worse than Deception. 

[DoomsdayDevice]

estebanus wrote...

So, has anything new regarding the IT actually been found? Or still wating for Omega?

 

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Does 'From Ashes' completely foreshadow the return of Shepard and the continuation of the war?

Do the 'From Ashes' Datapads reveal Bioware's entire plan for IT?

Does EDI foreshadow what actually happens to Shepard in the destroy ending?

@Banshee! Did you see my most recent thing on From Ashes? Top link.

[Grubas]

nothing regarding me3 has changed to me but i have to ask.
i just watched twillight and do you think this is how me should have ended? no spoiler, beside i wouldnt pay for 'this'

[paxxton]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

How did we never pick up on all these hints before?

Nurse in the hospital: "He can't remember his own name without the VI in his head telling him what it is. Trust me, in this place, we know dead."

What does it have to do with hinting at IT?

[Dlive]

Good Point Doomsday,i can not believe i forgot that line at the hospital. The game is full of "interesting " quotes.

[Arashi08]

paxxton wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

I normally love anime, but this one always looked terrible and didn't have many VOs from the game and kind of felt like something they only made because they thought people would watch it and make money off of it. Well when I write my articles on anime as an art form, I doubt this movie will be among them...

Maybe watching Princess Mononoke will help me feel better...

You have to see past the superficial and embrace the story. 

The story is the main reason I enjoy naime, but if you can't be consistent in the world of your story then you probably shouldn't tell it. It's like being violently jerked out of the story and getting whiplash from it.