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[estebanus]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

So, has anything new regarding the IT actually been found? Or still wating for Omega?

 

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Does 'From Ashes' completely foreshadow the return of Shepard and the continuation of the war?

Do the 'From Ashes' Datapads reveal Bioware's entire plan for IT?

Does EDI foreshadow what actually happens to Shepard in the destroy ending?

@Banshee! Did you see my most recent thing on From Ashes? Top link.

I see. 

Also, I've heard that the entire ME3 writing crew will be part of the next DLC. Is this true? Can someone provide me with a link?

[N7L4D]

^eh only watching paragon lost for Laura bailey

[Arashi08]

Grubas wrote...

nothing regarding me3 has changed to me but i have to ask.
i just watched twillight and do you think this is how me should have ended? no spoiler, beside i wouldnt pay for 'this'

Well considering Twilight was a terrible series to begin with I wouldn't compare it to ME.

[spotlessvoid]

Paxxton, no

And if so then bad writing. What did Bill say?

Something like " yo dawg, the illusive man couldn't control us because we were controlling him. But you can control us even though he was controlling you when we were controlling him"

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Grubas wrote...

nothing regarding me3 has changed to me but i have to ask.
i just watched twillight and do you think this is how me should have ended? no spoiler, beside i wouldnt pay for 'this'

No, it is not how we want it to end (and before I continue I only know of the ending to the latest Twilight movie because I watched Doug Walker talk about it and laughed my ass of at how stupid it was).

Unlike what is shown in twilight Indoctrination is a big part of the Mass Effect series and fully capable of creatingw hat we see following Shepard beeing knocked down during the beam charge. It would undo the stupid choices which imo are more like the Twilight ending, but it would not just be "it is all a dream" because your choice decides Shepards fate and ultimately probably the outcome of the entire war through Shepard either defeating or succumbing to Indoctrination.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 25 novembre 2012 - 09:55 .

[Rifneno]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Paxxton, no

And if so then bad writing. What did Bill say?

Something like " yo dawg, the illusive man couldn't control us because we were controlling him. But you can control us even though he was controlling you when we were controlling him"

Someone that's not as lazy as I am needs to meme that.

[paxxton]

Dlive wrote...

Good Point Doomsday,i can not believe i forgot that line at the hospital. The game is full of "interesting " quotes.

Could you explain for those IT-challenged?

[byne]

Arashi08 wrote...

Grubas wrote...

nothing regarding me3 has changed to me but i have to ask.
i just watched twillight and do you think this is how me should have ended? no spoiler, beside i wouldnt pay for 'this'

Well considering Twilight was a terrible series to begin with I wouldn't compare it to ME.

Apparently from what I gathered by watching Doug Walker's review, the end of the movie turns into a gigantic kickass fight scene where like everyone dies, but then it was all a dream, or some ****.

I dont know anything about Twilight, so I cant say if such bull**** dreams are an established thing in the universe, but indoctrination certainly is an established thing, so its somewhat different.

[BansheeOwnage]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

So, has anything new regarding the IT actually been found? Or still wating for Omega?

 

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Does 'From Ashes' completely foreshadow the return of Shepard and the continuation of the war?

Do the 'From Ashes' Datapads reveal Bioware's entire plan for IT?

Does EDI foreshadow what actually happens to Shepard in the destroy ending?

@Banshee! Did you see my most recent thing on From Ashes? Top link.

Missed it but, wow awesome! Avatar of vengeance!

[401 Kill]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Paxxton, no

And if so then bad writing. What did Bill say?

Something like " yo dawg, the illusive man couldn't control us because we were controlling him. But you can control us even though he was controlling you when we were controlling him"

My version of that:

Shepard: "So, The Illusive Man was right after all."

Child: "Correct, but he could have never taken control, because we already controlled him."

Shepard cannot control the Reapers because just before that TIM was controlling Shepard and made Shepard shoot Anderson. If TIM controlled Shepard, and the Reapers controlled TIM than effectively, the Reapers controlled Shepard. (Or they are at least trying to but Shepard is resisting) Now, knowing this can there be any logical reason as to how Shepard can now control the Reapers. And it sure as hell better not be "Because the Catalyst aka the creator and leader of the Reapers said so". It is not possible, you cannot control the Reapers.

Modifié par 401 Kill, 25 novembre 2012 - 09:58 .

[Big_Boss9]

Arashi08 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

I normally love anime, but this one always looked terrible and didn't have many VOs from the game and kind of felt like something they only made because they thought people would watch it and make money off of it. Well when I write my articles on anime as an art form, I doubt this movie will be among them...

Maybe watching Princess Mononoke will help me feel better...

You have to see past the superficial and embrace the story. 

The story is the main reason I enjoy naime, but if you can't be consistent in the world of your story then you probably shouldn't tell it. It's like being violently jerked out of the story and getting whiplash from it.

Yes, especially since in that clip, the Citadel is referred to as "the Alliance's jugular." Just lol

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 25 novembre 2012 - 09:58 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

paxxton wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

How did we never pick up on all these hints before?

Nurse in the hospital: "He can't remember his own name without the VI in his head telling him what it is. Trust me, in this place, we know dead."

What does it have to do with hinting at IT?

It's a discussion between the hospital receptionist and a visitor. receptionist claims that Huerta is dead, the visitor says he isn't.

Hospital Visitor: "It's completely tasteless to call this place Huerta Memorial."

Hospital Receptionist: "President Huerta died of a stroke two years ago, ma'am."

Hospital Visitor: "I think you meant to say 'the man was dead for an hour and a half, and his political enemies piled on enough propaganda to get the name of the hospital changed.'"

Hospital Receptionist: "He can't remember his own name without the VI in his head telling him what it is. Trust me, in this building, we know dead."

Hospital Visitor: "The supreme court says he is alive."

Hospital Receptionist: "Five Justices say he is alive, two of which appointed by him. The name is what it is."

This could foreshadow the events after ME3, where people think Shepard is dead, but Shepard isn't. Completely consistent with my recent finds.

Is this my confirmation bias at work, or am I on to something here?

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 25 novembre 2012 - 10:08 .

[ThisOneIsPunny]

byne wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

Grubas wrote...

nothing regarding me3 has changed to me but i have to ask.
i just watched twillight and do you think this is how me should have ended? no spoiler, beside i wouldnt pay for 'this'

Well considering Twilight was a terrible series to begin with I wouldn't compare it to ME.

Apparently from what I gathered by watching Doug Walker's review, the end of the movie turns into a gigantic kickass fight scene where like everyone dies, but then it was all a dream, or some ****.

I dont know anything about Twilight, so I cant say if such bull**** dreams are an established thing in the universe, but indoctrination certainly is an established thing, so its somewhat different.

Being able to look into the forseeable and possible future by touching a person IF that's your sparkly vampire power is an established thing. Or something like that.
Basically, Grubas needs to go back to analogy school because said twilight movie only had that scene to "spice up" an otherwise really boring and stupid adaption of the equally boring and stupid book. Twilight isn't even remotely related to science fiction, what is you beef Grubas what even.

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...

My version of that:
*snip*

Here's mine.

[BansheeOwnage]

With each passing cycle, the plan has no doubt evolved.

Those who passed it on were very careful to hide it from us. We almost eradicated the concept four cycles ago, but failed.

I am prepared to hear your solution.

Have you not come to provide your own solution?

What does everyone make of the bolded parts?

[DoomsdayDevice]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

How did we never pick up on all these hints before?

Nurse in the hospital: "He can't remember his own name without the VI in his head telling him what it is. Trust me, in this place, we know dead."

What does it have to do with hinting at IT?

It's a discussion between the hospital receptionist and a visitor. receptionist claims that Huerta is dead, the visitor says he isn't.

Hospital Visitor: "It's completely tasteless to call this place Huerta Memorial."

Hospital Receptionist: "President Huerta died of a stroke two years ago, ma'am."

Hospital Visitor: "I think you meant to say 'the man was dead for an hour and a half, and his political enemies piled on enough propaganda to get the name of the hospital changed.'"

Hospital Receptionist: "He can't remember his own name without the VI in his head telling him what it is. Trust me, in this building, we know dead."

Hospital Visitor: "The supreme court says he is alive."

Hospital Receptionist: "Five Justices say he is alive, two of which appointed by him. The name is what it is."

This could foreshadow the events after ME3, where people think Shepard is dead, but Shepard isn't. Completely consistent with my recent finds.

Is this my confirmation bias at work, or am I on to something here?

Also, Avina says the donor who suggested the hospital name desired to remain anonymous.

So, if all of this is indeed foreshadowing, Shepard will be partly indoctrinated after the events of ME3. He'll be considered (brain)dead and there will be some kind of thing called after Shepard, as if (s)he died. The one who did this, is Shepard's political enemy.

The Illusive Man? The Reapers?

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 25 novembre 2012 - 10:20 .

[401 Kill]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

With each passing cycle, the plan has no doubt evolved.

Those who passed it on were very careful to hide it from us. We almost eradicated the concept four cycles ago, but failed.

I am prepared to hear your solution.

Have you not come to provide your own solution?

What does everyone make of the bolded parts?

Is that dialogue in the files that has not been used? Because I have never seen that before.

Maybe eventually, Shepard finds a solution not offered by the child?

[IronSabbath88]

... what is that pastebin thing? Because I noticed one of the lines perfectly co-exists with something I said

<data>You have sacrificed most of your resources just to reach this point.</data>
</string>

<data>If you do not use the Crucible, the Reapers will not be stopped. And the cycle will continue.</data>

This just SCREAMS trap to me now.

[DoomsdayDevice]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

With each passing cycle, the plan has no doubt evolved.

Those who passed it on were very careful to hide it from us. We almost eradicated the concept four cycles ago, but failed.

I am prepared to hear your solution.

Have you not come to provide your own solution?

What does everyone make of the bolded parts?

The 'your solution' bits are referring to the destroy option being something that is on Shepard's mind. It's what Shepard thought the crucible would do. The catalyst can't change that. The other two solutions are suggested by him. Completely in line with the EDI destroy analogy.

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

With each passing cycle, the plan has no doubt evolved.

Those who passed it on were very careful to hide it from us. We almost eradicated the concept four cycles ago, but failed.

I am prepared to hear your solution.

Have you not come to provide your own solution?

What does everyone make of the bolded parts?

Is that dialogue in the files that has not been used? Because I have never seen that before.

Maybe eventually, Shepard finds a solution not offered by the child?

From here. I believe it's the EC files.

Yeah, I thought that too. Then this popped into my head.

We destroy you, and live our lives in peace.

[IronSabbath88]

Oh wow, that stuff is from the actual EC files?

I KNEW there was some stuff hidden inside there still.

I love some of these Shepard lines

"I didn't fight this war so I could give up everything I had"

"I made it this far. I'll destroy you without setting it off"

Second one is a total renegade Shep response 

Modifié par IronSabbath88, 25 novembre 2012 - 10:28 .

[CmdrShep80]

159 pages before we pass Mark 2's 2222 pages and 223 pages before we pass Mark I's 2286 pages. Isn't this just exciting!?

[Arashi08]

byne wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

Grubas wrote...

nothing regarding me3 has changed to me but i have to ask.
i just watched twillight and do you think this is how me should have ended? no spoiler, beside i wouldnt pay for 'this'

Well considering Twilight was a terrible series to begin with I wouldn't compare it to ME.

Apparently from what I gathered by watching Doug Walker's review, the end of the movie turns into a gigantic kickass fight scene where like everyone dies, but then it was all a dream, or some ****.

I dont know anything about Twilight, so I cant say if such bull**** dreams are an established thing in the universe, but indoctrination certainly is an established thing, so its somewhat different.

The Bum Reviews of it was even funnier imo, especially the end with the improv of the cup thing he always does.

I can't even fathom comparing ME, which clearly stimulates critical thinking as evidenced in this thread, with sparkly junk food for the mind like Twilight...

[BansheeOwnage]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

159 pages before we pass Mark 2's 2222 pages and 223 pages before we pass Mark I's 2286 pages. Isn't this just exciting!?

I should probably PM Chris again right?

TOP!

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 25 novembre 2012 - 10:30 .

[401 Kill]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

159 pages before we pass Mark 2's 2222 pages and 223 pages before we pass Mark I's 2286 pages. Isn't this just exciting!?

to be honest, I think we will be shut down before Omega comes out. The last thing we need is to star speculating on Omega, and then have the thread locked right in the middle of it.