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[RavenEyry]

Andromidius wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Instead its better to call it mutation.  Which doesn't sound as pretty, hense why that word isn't used.

Mutation is a vital part of evolution. Artifical alteration is the closest I can think of.

It doesn't work the same way though.  A person cannot evolve, only a species via reproduction.

Good point. They can mutate over a lifetime though, usually through radiation, so you were probably right the first time.

[masster blaster]

So omega trailer... Ya it looks cool, but it may or may not change the endings. Who knows , and you have to think IF Bioware adds on anything that could change the endings, or add on to them, then they wouldn't put it in a trailer.

[RavenEyry]

I wouldn't expect it to. It might have some interesting parts but it's mostly a filler side story.

[demersel]

Once again. since people ignore it for some reason - in the trailer at 1.32 you can clearly see collector assault rifle on the back of Shepard - Collector weapons are in omega -> collectors are featured in the DLC. Collectors -> Harbinger, Harbinger -> IT!

Modifié par demersel, 26 novembre 2012 - 05:32 .

[IronSabbath88]

I didn't expect Omega to add anything ending wise, imo

And you know what? That's not a bad thing. Omega was scheduled intially to be part of the actual game and if they couldn't fit it in, no big deal, they're getting it out now.

That said, there's still some more DLC's to go (one at least of which we know of) plus we got all this Extended Cut dialogue that wasn't used, showing there IS going to be more added sometime or another.

Another thought I had while coming home on the bus today, if you needed any more evidence that the Crucible is a worthless pile of crap.

Hackett: "something's happening, the Crucible's not firing. It's got to be something on your end.."

and then we have Shepard saying he can't, he's not sure how to.

It's useless. End of story. The kid can tell you they "thought they eradicated" the plans long ago all he wants but considering the plans were just on Mars waiting to be found I highly doubt that. It's a resource waster that the Reapers have used every cycle.

[RavenEyry]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

It's useless. End of story. The kid can tell you they "thought they eradicated" the plans long ago all he wants but considering the plans were just on Mars waiting to be found I highly doubt that. It's a resource waster that the Reapers have used every cycle.

'I thought we'd eradicated the plans for the device that could finally realise my goals by burying it in surface caves every cycle! Curse my lack of an efficient shovel!"

[HiddenInWar]

SwobyJ wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So omega trailer... Ya it looks cool, but it may or may not change the endings. Who knows , and you have to think IF Bioware adds on anything that could change the endings, or add on to them, then they wouldn't put it in a trailer.

I don't think Omega will change the endings really.

It's a field trip. We can only hope here that it has pitstops in the IT gas station.

Hopefully we get some MP maps based off it as well.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I didn't expect Omega to add anything ending wise, imo

And you know what? That's not a bad thing. Omega was scheduled intially to be part of the actual game and if they couldn't fit it in, no big deal, they're getting it out now.

That said, there's still some more DLC's to go (one at least of which we know of) plus we got all this Extended Cut dialogue that wasn't used, showing there IS going to be more added sometime or another.

Another thought I had while coming home on the bus today, if you needed any more evidence that the Crucible is a worthless pile of crap.

Hackett: "something's happening, the Crucible's not firing. It's got to be something on your end.."

and then we have Shepard saying he can't, he's not sure how to.

It's useless. End of story. The kid can tell you they "thought they eradicated" the plans long ago all he wants but considering the plans were just on Mars waiting to be found I highly doubt that. It's a resource waster that the Reapers have used every cycle.

I agree, though i had an interesting thought regarding it.

There is a large number of upgrades for the Crucible, but has anyone noticed it is all the Organic races optimizing, improving or adding on to the Crucible´s base design?

Even if it is for the sake of improving the Crucible's base functionality those upgrades might very well be part of what saves us in the end. Just as we have adapted our own tehcnology to improve the Crucible so might we very well have to adapt the Crucible to a different purpose, something which might help us.

[estebanus]

demersel wrote...

Once again. since people ignore it for some reason - in the trailer at 1.32 you can clearly see collector assault rifle on the back of Shepard - Collector weapons are in omega -> collectors are featured in the DLC. Collectors -> Harbinger, Harbinger -> IT!

Haven't we already been through this once, Demersel? There are several other possible reasons for the collector rifle to be there. 
Cerberus could for example have mass-produced the assault rifle series after replicating its technology from the remains of the base. Another reason could be that that simply is a salvaged one from the collector base.

[Davik Kang]

RavenEyry wrote...

Everything that exists conclusively disproves IT to some people. It's like the 'ruined forever' page on the transformers wiki.

The page that introduced me to tvtropes.  I will never get those 1000s of hours of my life back... or the 1000s more that I'll probably spend there in future...

[DoomsdayDevice]

demersel wrote...

Once again. since people ignore it for some reason - in the trailer at 1.32 you can clearly see collector assault rifle on the back of Shepard - Collector weapons are in omega -> collectors are featured in the DLC. Collectors -> Harbinger, Harbinger -> IT!

I'm not sure if Collector weapons means Collectors. I hope it's true, but I'm not counting on it. I don't want my dreams of hearing Harbinger speak shattered, so I'm just in 'wait and see' mode.

Like others, I don't believe this will have a lot of implications for IT. I'm sure there will be the occasional hint though.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 26 novembre 2012 - 05:43 .

[demersel]

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Once again. since people ignore it for some reason - in the trailer at 1.32 you can clearly see collector assault rifle on the back of Shepard - Collector weapons are in omega -> collectors are featured in the DLC. Collectors -> Harbinger, Harbinger -> IT!

Haven't we already been through this once, Demersel? There are several other possible reasons for the collector rifle to be there. 
Cerberus could for example have mass-produced the assault rifle series after replicating its technology from the remains of the base. Another reason could be that that simply is a salvaged one from the collector base.

Open MP. Do you see cerberus logo anywhere on collector's rifle? Those guys brand everything they get their hands on. 
I bet even Shepard's cells are branded with cerberus logo

Modifié par demersel, 26 novembre 2012 - 05:45 .

[RavenEyry]

Estebanus is being a little snippy, but seriously, wait til someones played the dang DLC before reaching conclusions.

[Davik Kang]

 I very much expect there to be an IT-supporting reveal.  The Citadel and Crucible are still the big unknowns and I think each DLC will help explain a little more what is really happening at the end.

Have faith people.  IT is the end, not a crackpot theory about what the end could've been.
However I also fully expect that, by the end, y'all will be forced to accept that the end wasn't a dream :devil::devil:

Modifié par Davik Kang, 26 novembre 2012 - 05:48 .

[demersel]

RavenEyry wrote...

Estebanus is being a little snippy, but seriously, wait til someones played the dang DLC before reaching conclusions.

What do I have to wait for to say "Hey guys, look the collector's weapons are in the launch trailer, as well as confirmed chakram launcher rifle! Could this mean that collectors are featured or at least mentioned story wise in the DLC at some point and ain't it cool?" 

[DextroDNA]

demersel wrote...

Once again. since people ignore it for some reason - in the trailer at 1.32 you can clearly see collector assault rifle on the back of Shepard - Collector weapons are in omega -> collectors are featured in the DLC. Collectors -> Harbinger, Harbinger -> IT!

Bioware confirmed the Collectors won't be in ME3 SP (at least not in this DLC).

The Collectors AR is in there as a port from MP, nothing more. The only new enemies in the DLC are the Cerberus Mechs, the Cerberus Dragoon and the Adjutants.

This doesn't rule out the possibility of Harbinger, but it's very unlikely he'll feature in the DLC.

Modifié par RussianZombeh, 26 novembre 2012 - 05:50 .

[paxxton]

SwobyJ wrote...

"I say turn back"

Wait, could that be taken in the context of him working WITH us?

You should pursue that lead. Seriously.

[Andromidius]

IronSabbath88 wrote...
Hackett: "something's happening, the Crucible's not firing. It's got to be something on your end.."

and then we have Shepard saying he can't, he's not sure how to.

The only thing I can think of, literally speaking of course, that could effect the ending with Omega is Shepard learning how to use the Crucible by finding plans on Omega.  And thus when Hackett calls saying the Crucible isn't working Shepard can activate it at that console without Starbinger calling the lift up.

Of course, we all know that won't happen.  And shouldn't.  But yeah, stretching my imagination a bit.

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...
Hackett: "something's happening, the Crucible's not firing. It's got to be something on your end.."

and then we have Shepard saying he can't, he's not sure how to.

The only thing I can think of, literally speaking of course, that could effect the ending with Omega is Shepard learning how to use the Crucible by finding plans on Omega.  And thus when Hackett calls saying the Crucible isn't working Shepard can activate it at that console without Starbinger calling the lift up.

Of course, we all know that won't happen.  And shouldn't.  But yeah, stretching my imagination a bit.

Or Shepard, knowing how the Crucible works, can tell the Catalyst to go **** himself. That totally proves IT, man!

[demersel]

SwobyJ wrote...

That doesn't mean that they are, at all.

No. It doesn't. 

But you have to agree, that the fact that there is a collector weapon in trailer (which there is) doesn't mean that they are 100% not even mentioned in the DLC either. 

[Leonia]

You can buy Collector armour already and there's no explanation for that either.

[demersel]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Bioware confirmed the Collectors won't be in ME3 SP (at least not in this DLC).

The Collectors AR is in there as a port from MP, nothing more. The only new enemies in the DLC are the Cerberus Mechs, the Cerberus Dragoon and the Adjutants.

This doesn't rule out the possibility of Harbinger, but it's very unlikely he'll feature in the DLC.

So how was that DLC, is it worth 1200 bw points? How long it took you to play through it?