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So...I don't know how I'm going to catch up to about 35 pages. So I guess I can go, what happened in the last 35 pages? I know about the Omega not having a trailer, I did say I bet they won't have it till the day of or the day after


About that...


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This is probably a bit late but....I'M GONNA LOVE OMEGA! Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

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Guys, I'm still catching up to the thread.

Just popping in to say this.

Swoby, that was really kind of you, really, but I'm not looking for people to 'help me out' on my thread. It's okay, I'm not even really debating with these guys, just trying to provoke some thought, it's not a problem.

If you genuinely feel like posting in there for whatever reason, cool, but I don't need (and don't mean) for this to become some kind of heated debate. I expected nothing but ridicule and so far it's not even that bad. lol

It's all good. Nobody needs to bother with the thread on my behalf.


Please read my later post. I was joking and I guess it was taken much too seriously by BSNers :pinched:

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TJBartlemus wrote...

byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

So...I don't know how I'm going to catch up to about 35 pages. So I guess I can go, what happened in the last 35 pages? I know about the Omega not having a trailer, I did say I bet they won't have it till the day of or the day after


About that...


That trailer was awesome. The music and cinematics was on par with what I expect from BioWare. Let's hope the content is worth that 15$. (Still holding by my prediction that Omega is a Reaper factory. Used for cloning collectors though...possible.) 


That's what I'm sticking to as well. It's not like we have a better idea Posted Image

Also that Shepard will be going to Avernus Station, and that he'll be going alone.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:48 .


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byne wrote...

DA:O and DA2 have the dumbest system for characters ever.

"Lets put a limit on how many characters you can make, but lets not actually include the option to delete files in the game! Lets make people go and manually delete the save files from the xbox settings!"

I still can't believe they didn't fix that...and even returned it in DA2, as thought they thought "You know what players LOVE doing?  being forced to leave the game and manually delete every save from the storage device just so they can make a new character!  S'brilliant!"

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So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.

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byne wrote...

So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.


Good luck to ya. Sorta bored myself. Going to do something productive...see ya.

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byne wrote...

So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.


Well sure.  What would the Chantry be without hypocrite support?  If they didn't have a bunch of rapists and murderers sworn to "protect the public", the templar order would be like Thrask and...  just Thrask I guess.

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Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.


Well sure.  What would the Chantry be without hypocrite support?  If they didn't have a bunch of rapists and murderers sworn to "protect the public", the templar order would be like Thrask and...  just Thrask I guess.


I knew that kind of character would annoy you. ;)

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So I had asked EA about permissions to use copyright materials in a walkthrough video.  This was the response I had gotten back.  Granted I didn't ask specifically for blanket permission but my request might have been taken that way.

"Unfortunately, EA is not able to provide a blanket permission to use our copyrighted game footage. We have previously advised YouTube that EA generally does not object to fair uses of video footage or screen shots from publicly released versions of our copyrighted games, including on YouTube channels which are commercialized, but that we reserve rights to address inappropriate use of our copyrighted content. We will continue to advise YouTube directly of that position."

So this likely means I can't do a whole walkthrough of all 3 games if I understood what their meaning is.  But I can create videos based on fair use.  Can someone who's done a lot of YouTube videos on games help clarify this?


By walkthrough do you mean like a Let's Play? Because I'm pretty sure you're allowed to do that.


How do you define "Let's play?"

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I think the reason some people aren't getting the Overlord = Synthesis thing is because they're having trouble with themes and things that are metaphors and symbolic. Megumi's refusal to see the Stargazer scene as an out of narrative message to the players and insistence on using very strict definitions of words fit this. Estebanus seems to be having this problem a bit too.


Even my boyfriend has not nearly as much of an issue with that - and he's a super concrete thinker for the sake of (in a way) his sanity (thought based OCD).

I might take a break and play Omega when its out, THEN come back in a while. This thread feels weird now.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

So I had asked EA about permissions to use copyright materials in a walkthrough video.  This was the response I had gotten back.  Granted I didn't ask specifically for blanket permission but my request might have been taken that way.

"Unfortunately, EA is not able to provide a blanket permission to use our copyrighted game footage. We have previously advised YouTube that EA generally does not object to fair uses of video footage or screen shots from publicly released versions of our copyrighted games, including on YouTube channels which are commercialized, but that we reserve rights to address inappropriate use of our copyrighted content. We will continue to advise YouTube directly of that position."

So this likely means I can't do a whole walkthrough of all 3 games if I understood what their meaning is.  But I can create videos based on fair use.  Can someone who's done a lot of YouTube videos on games help clarify this?


By walkthrough do you mean like a Let's Play? Because I'm pretty sure you're allowed to do that.


How do you define "Let's play?"


You record yourself playing the game and comment on it.

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Did we learn anything from the Omega trailer besides confirmed Collector weapons? Not that that isn't interesting, mind you...

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Did we learn anything from the Omega trailer besides confirmed Collector weapons? Not that that isn't interesting, mind you...


We saw Shepard and Aria about to kiss.

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.


Well sure.  What would the Chantry be without hypocrite support?  If they didn't have a bunch of rapists and murderers sworn to "protect the public", the templar order would be like Thrask and...  just Thrask I guess.


I knew that kind of character would annoy you. ;)


It doesn't really. Because it's no different than every other Chantry supporter. I just wanted to rant about the Chantry.

Anders supports destroy. Anders FTW. <3 

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Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.


Well sure.  What would the Chantry be without hypocrite support?  If they didn't have a bunch of rapists and murderers sworn to "protect the public", the templar order would be like Thrask and...  just Thrask I guess.


I knew that kind of character would annoy you. ;)


It doesn't really. Because it's no different than every other Chantry supporter. I just wanted to rant about the Chantry.

Anders supports destroy. Anders FTW. <3 


Oh, dont worry about Anders. I plan to have him support me when I put down the mages at the end.

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.


Well sure.  What would the Chantry be without hypocrite support?  If they didn't have a bunch of rapists and murderers sworn to "protect the public", the templar order would be like Thrask and...  just Thrask I guess.


I knew that kind of character would annoy you. ;)


It doesn't really. Because it's no different than every other Chantry supporter. I just wanted to rant about the Chantry.

Anders supports destroy. Anders FTW. <3 


Oh, dont worry about Anders. I plan to have him support me when I put down the mages at the end.


I miss when it was "bugged" and he refused to do that.  Anders helping annul the Circle is incredibly stupid even by DA2 standards.  And that's saying a lot.

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Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.


Well sure.  What would the Chantry be without hypocrite support?  If they didn't have a bunch of rapists and murderers sworn to "protect the public", the templar order would be like Thrask and...  just Thrask I guess.


I knew that kind of character would annoy you. ;)


It doesn't really. Because it's no different than every other Chantry supporter. I just wanted to rant about the Chantry.

Anders supports destroy. Anders FTW. <3 


Oh, dont worry about Anders. I plan to have him support me when I put down the mages at the end.


I miss when it was "bugged" and he refused to do that.  Anders helping annul the Circle is incredibly stupid even by DA2 standards.  And that's saying a lot.


Well, he only does it when he has high rivalry and is concerned he's losing himself to Justice, right?

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.


Well sure.  What would the Chantry be without hypocrite support?  If they didn't have a bunch of rapists and murderers sworn to "protect the public", the templar order would be like Thrask and...  just Thrask I guess.


I knew that kind of character would annoy you. ;)


It doesn't really. Because it's no different than every other Chantry supporter. I just wanted to rant about the Chantry.

Anders supports destroy. Anders FTW. <3 


Oh, dont worry about Anders. I plan to have him support me when I put down the mages at the end.


I miss when it was "bugged" and he refused to do that.  Anders helping annul the Circle is incredibly stupid even by DA2 standards.  And that's saying a lot.


Well, he only does it when he has high rivalry and is concerned he's losing himself to Justice, right?


Yo dawg, I heard you want to save the mages from being murdered.  So let's go murder the mages to save the mages before they get murdered.

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Rifneno wrote...

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Well, he only does it when he has high rivalry and is concerned he's losing himself to Justice, right?


Yo dawg, I heard you want to save the mages from being murdered.  So let's go murder the mages to save the mages before they get murdered.


Dont get me wrong, I didnt say it made sense. Nothing about the ending does. Especially Orsino's actions.

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Did we learn anything from the Omega trailer besides confirmed Collector weapons? Not that that isn't interesting, mind you...


We saw Shepard and Aria about to kiss.

Also Adjutants.

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byne wrote...

So I'm bored and going to create the dumbest possible DA2 character I can: A blood mage who hates mages and supports the chantry and templars in all matters. Should be fun.


hmm...*reads* OMG what an awesome character! Posted Image

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Gwyphon wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Did we learn anything from the Omega trailer besides confirmed Collector weapons? Not that that isn't interesting, mind you...


We saw Shepard and Aria about to kiss.

Also Adjutants.


but more importantly, Shepard and Aria *gasp* what will Ashley say? (my LI)

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byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

So I had asked EA about permissions to use copyright materials in a walkthrough video.  This was the response I had gotten back.  Granted I didn't ask specifically for blanket permission but my request might have been taken that way.

"Unfortunately, EA is not able to provide a blanket permission to use our copyrighted game footage. We have previously advised YouTube that EA generally does not object to fair uses of video footage or screen shots from publicly released versions of our copyrighted games, including on YouTube channels which are commercialized, but that we reserve rights to address inappropriate use of our copyrighted content. We will continue to advise YouTube directly of that position."

So this likely means I can't do a whole walkthrough of all 3 games if I understood what their meaning is.  But I can create videos based on fair use.  Can someone who's done a lot of YouTube videos on games help clarify this?


By walkthrough do you mean like a Let's Play? Because I'm pretty sure you're allowed to do that.


How do you define "Let's play?"


You record yourself playing the game and comment on it.


Hmm...I wonder how EA defines "Let's Play?"

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Did we learn anything from the Omega trailer besides confirmed Collector weapons? Not that that isn't interesting, mind you...


We saw Shepard and Aria about to kiss.

Also Adjutants.


but more importantly, Shepard and Aria *gasp* what will Ashley say? (my LI)


What happens on Omega stays on Omega.

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IIRC, Anders will only help you to annul the circle if he's convinced that he himself is a dangerous abomination, that he cannot trust his own moral compass, and that this is the only way to stop the conflict from growing any further. And he wants Hawke to kill him afterward. In short, he has a complete mental breakdown and finds himself completely at odds with Vengeance (IIRC he admits that Justice has become a demon at this point).