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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

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Yeah, Greagoir is a great guy.  Remember that time he beat up a pregnant woman because she wouldn't tell him who the father was?  Real charmer, that one.


I actually dont remember that. When did that happen?


One of the comics. She was a mage, naturally. He wanted to find out who the other one was so he could properly punish them both for the crime of being two consenting adults. She wouldn't talk so he beat her. I don't remember how it worked out. 50-50 chance she just didn't want to rat on the templar that raped her. Have I mentioned lately that the only thing a templar is good for is target practice?


Thats a shame. I actually liked Greagoir.


Even without the comics, it's quite apparent Greagoir is scum.  If you rat out Jowan to Irving, Irving will tell you to go along with it so he can trap Jowan.  At the end, Greagoir still sentences the PC to die even with Irving there pleading that you did nothing wrong and were only following his instructions.

I also like how he promises to help with the darkspawn if you clean up his mess in the tower, then he doesn't hold up his end of the bargain if you managed to save a few mages.

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masster blaster

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I am the leader of an army
I try to make peace between Organics, and Synthetics.
My forces are fighting all over the galaxy
I betrayed the people that gave me life because I though it was right.
I am the final key to my enemys Destruction.

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Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Yeah, Greagoir is a great guy.  Remember that time he beat up a pregnant woman because she wouldn't tell him who the father was?  Real charmer, that one.


I actually dont remember that. When did that happen?


One of the comics. She was a mage, naturally. He wanted to find out who the other one was so he could properly punish them both for the crime of being two consenting adults. She wouldn't talk so he beat her. I don't remember how it worked out. 50-50 chance she just didn't want to rat on the templar that raped her. Have I mentioned lately that the only thing a templar is good for is target practice?


Sure makes me wanna kill Templars now...

Now I can hope the rumors aren't trua about the player being a Templar (Or something similar if they are the leader of the Inquisition or something) in DA3.  Tho I likely won't be in a rush to buy it either.

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Omega Trailers screen where it says November 27 - is very interesting - it is not a typical ME3's trailer closing screen where you see sparks rising from bottom (which is interesting in itself, in regards of IT - those are the same sparks that are on each ME3 related art that has earth rubble in it, and they are in every ME3 trailer since Arrival's trailer) - but this time, besides the sparks - you can see the general shape of Omega + black oily shadowy smokey things floating across the screen.
(in the trailer for leviathan for example - there is nothing like that)

Modifié par demersel, 27 novembre 2012 - 06:20 .


#52730
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masster blaster wrote...

I am the leader of an army
I try to make peace between Organics, and Synthetics.
My forces are fighting all over the galaxy
I betrayed the people that gave me life because I though it was right.
I am the final key to my enemys Destruction.




Space Hamster, of course.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Do people like hearing people read off the codex entries?

Depends on the person Posted Image

For reference, I like the codex guy reading them. I also wouldn't mind Sovereign, Harbinger, Shepards, Liara, Garrus, EDI, Traynor, Kelly, or Legion.

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demersel wrote...

Omega Trailers screen where it says November 27 - is very interesting - it is not a typical ME3's trailer closing screen where you see sparks rising from bottom (which is interesting in itself, in regards of IT - those are the same sparks that are on each ME3 related art that has earth rubble in it, and they are in every ME3 trailer since Arrival's trailer) - but this time, besides the sparks - you can see the general shape of Omega + black oily shadowy smokey things floating across the screen.
(in the trailer for leviathan for example - there is nothing like that - only the sparks are more prominent and appearent than in other trailers, except the one for Arrival)


*creates sparks* Posted ImagePosted Image

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masster blaster wrote...

I am the leader of an army
I try to make peace between Organics, and Synthetics.
My forces are fighting all over the galaxy
I betrayed the people that gave me life because I though it was right.
I am the final key to my enemys Destruction.



Catalyst, quite obviously.

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masster blaster wrote...

I am the leader of an army
I try to make peace between Organics, and Synthetics.
My forces are fighting all over the galaxy
I betrayed the people that gave me life because I though it was right.
I am the final key to my enemys Destruction.




Godchild. I figure you're trying to also get people to say Shepard, but anyone who did would be wrong.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

demersel wrote...

Omega Trailers screen where it says November 27 - is very interesting - it is not a typical ME3's trailer closing screen where you see sparks rising from bottom (which is interesting in itself, in regards of IT - those are the same sparks that are on each ME3 related art that has earth rubble in it, and they are in every ME3 trailer since Arrival's trailer) - but this time, besides the sparks - you can see the general shape of Omega + black oily shadowy smokey things floating across the screen.
(in the trailer for leviathan for example - there is nothing like that - only the sparks are more prominent and appearent than in other trailers, except the one for Arrival)


*creates sparks* Posted ImagePosted Image


Those are the sparks that are featured explusivle in all "Rise from the rubble" concept art and promotional materals for ME3 - which is very relevant to IT. Those sparks would be the first thing you'd see when waking up from a hallucination coma in rubble in london. 

#52736
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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I am the leader of an army
I try to make peace between Organics, and Synthetics.
My forces are fighting all over the galaxy
I betrayed the people that gave me life because I though it was right.
I am the final key to my enemys Destruction.




Godchild. I figure you're trying to also get people to say Shepard, but anyone who did would be wrong.

Shepard fits all except the 4th one.

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Okay I need to go to bed, but I will leave you all with this.

I was choosen to become a specter.
I was born on Earth.
I help lead humanity
I am not the first person to be offered to become a Specter.
My name is in the Codex, but who is it I am.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...
]Shepard fits all except the 4th one.


Ohwrly?   Who gave life to Shepard, that we know of for sure? Cerberus. )))

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demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
]Shepard fits all except the 4th one.


Ohwrly?   Who gave life to Shepard, that we know of for sure? Cerberus. )))

Good point actually. See you later people! Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
]Shepard fits all except the 4th one.


Ohwrly?   Who gave life to Shepard, that we know of for sure? Cerberus. )))

Good point actually. See you later people! Posted Image


At no point has Shepard led an army. She has gathered forces, but Hackett commands the fleets.

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demersel wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

demersel wrote...

Omega Trailers screen where it says November 27 - is very interesting - it is not a typical ME3's trailer closing screen where you see sparks rising from bottom (which is interesting in itself, in regards of IT - those are the same sparks that are on each ME3 related art that has earth rubble in it, and they are in every ME3 trailer since Arrival's trailer) - but this time, besides the sparks - you can see the general shape of Omega + black oily shadowy smokey things floating across the screen.
(in the trailer for leviathan for example - there is nothing like that - only the sparks are more prominent and appearent than in other trailers, except the one for Arrival)


*creates sparks* Posted ImagePosted Image


Those are the sparks that are featured explusivle in all "Rise from the rubble" concept art and promotional materals for ME3 - which is very relevant to IT. Those sparks would be the first thing you'd see when waking up from a hallucination coma in rubble in london. 


You know what this trailer has that I missed? And probably the DLC itself? It has nothing to do with indoctrination and it's trivial but... warm freakin' colors, man. The sterile ice blue of ME3 made things so much sadder than I was ready for. I mean, my Shep's a redhead and you wouldn't know her hair from black based on the lighting of almost all ME3. 

I feel a sense of oorah just because of the Mass Effect getting a nice streak of fire through it. Aw yeah. Charge. ("That was mean. But damn funny.")

#52742
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@Krimzie, Colors have everything to do with indoctrination.

#52743
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People are still going on about how the Geth being good guys is a stupid retcon after ME1, because they were our enemies, and in ME3 they were retconned more because they're painted as innocent and victimized. Really people? Posted Image

If people fail to grasp concepts as simple as the Geth being alive or the Quarians being wrong, then it's no wonder they can't grasp the ending Posted Image

Ugh, people are so goddamn dumb.

#52744
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masster blaster wrote...

Okay I need to go to bed, but I will leave you all with this.

I was choosen to become a specter.
I was born on Earth.
I help lead humanity
I am not the first person to be offered to become a Specter.
My name is in the Codex, but who is it I am.


No one fits every one of these criteria.

I figure you're going between Kaidan and Shepard, but the majority of Shepards werent born on Earth, and at no point has Kaidan ever helped lead humanity.

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byne wrote..
At no point has Shepard led an army. She has gathered forces, but Hackett commands the fleets.


That is not true actually - Shepard led an army back in ME1. 

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demersel wrote...

byne wrote..
At no point has Shepard led an army. She has gathered forces, but Hackett commands the fleets.


That is not true actually - Shepard led an army back in ME1. 


Which army was that? All she did was recommend what the fleet should do at the battle of the Citadel. At no point did she actually lead them.

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masster blaster wrote...

Okay I need to go to bed, but I will leave you all with this.

I was choosen to become a specter.
I was born on Earth.
I help lead humanity
I am not the first person to be offered to become a Specter.
My name is in the Codex, but who is it I am.


Anderson?

I just found out he was born in London.

#52748
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Which army was that? All she did was recommend what the fleet should do at the battle of the Citadel. At no point did she actually lead them.


Ok, whatever, i'd say a whole fleet doing what a man says is that man leading that fleet. 
anyway the point is moot. - oily shadows in omega trailer are much more interesting topic. 

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masster blaster wrote...

Okay I need to go to bed, but I will leave you all with this.

I was choosen to become a specter.
I was born on Earth.
I help lead humanity
I am not the first person to be offered to become a Specter.
My name is in the Codex, but who is it I am.


ok

I walked on the SR2 to become a legend
I witnessed a rogue who wasnt quite himself.
i became that rogue, foods not good
i escaped the collectors for what it was worth
i watched as the reapers took earth...
i am a free spirit... who am i?

.

#52750
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Krimzie wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay I need to go to bed, but I will leave you all with this.

I was choosen to become a specter.
I was born on Earth.
I help lead humanity
I am not the first person to be offered to become a Specter.
My name is in the Codex, but who is it I am.


Anderson?

I just found out he was born in London.


I'm just figuring by 'person offered to become a spectre' masster meant not the first human. Otherwise the line is just pointless, because no ****. There were tons of spectres before humans even made first contact.