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Dwailing wrote...

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Exactly what I thought it'd be by the sounds of it: a dolled up cut sidequest. I wonder why it took so long?


I'm curious, did Lair of the Shadow Broker REALLY have a huge impact on the story in ME2?  Did Overlord?  I don't see how this is any different.


Yes to both.

The feedback so far is massively underwhelming from the Xbox crowd.  That worries me greatly when console players are complaining about there being nothing but action and no story.

If that is the case, what the hell were Bioware doing for them to take so long with this, hype it up and then charge extra?  If it sucks, I'm going to be REALLY annoyed.

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Jusseb wrote...

I'm also bracing myself for the anti-IT people that will love our disappointment.

 Just ignore them.  They're indoctrinated.

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Jusseb wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Exactly what I thought it'd be by the sounds of it: a dolled up cut sidequest. I wonder why it took so long?


Trying to keep ME3 alive while waiting for other DLC i guess.


Well, it's the Citadel DLC up next, and then Project X (I hope.  Clevernoob seems on the level, I doubt he would lie about that.).

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SB did on Mass Effect as a whole - its the bloody Shadow Broker.

Overlord was a glorified side mission, yes, just a good glorified side mission.

That had a lot of interesting parts. According to the early players Omega manages to say nothing at all about Omega we didnt already know.

'Short for the price' is another vibe I'm getting from basically everyone.

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Andromidius wrote...

The feedback so far is massively underwhelming from the Xbox crowd.  That worries me greatly when console players are complaining about there being nothing but action and no story.

As a console player I take offense to that!

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RavenEyry wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

SB did on Mass Effect as a whole - its the bloody Shadow Broker.

Overlord was a glorified side mission, yes, just a good glorified side mission.

That had a lot of interesting parts. According to the early players Omega manages to say nothing at all about Omega we didnt already know.

'Short for the price' is another vibe I'm getting from basically everyone.


Maybe there's more than just the taking back of Omega.  Maybe it's in two parts and people haven't reached the second part yet.

Edit: I mean, I know BioWare lies, but I would like to think they would at least be honest about LENGTH.

Modifié par Dwailing, 27 novembre 2012 - 03:58 .


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Dwailing wrote...

Jusseb wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Exactly what I thought it'd be by the sounds of it: a dolled up cut sidequest. I wonder why it took so long?


Trying to keep ME3 alive while waiting for other DLC i guess.


Well, it's the Citadel DLC up next, and then Project X (I hope.  Clevernoob seems on the level, I doubt he would lie about that.).


Project X you say?

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I thought Chris claimed Project X was just a load of horse ****

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BleedingUranium wrote...

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I even made sure to pull myself out of bed earlier than usual to download the DLC, and this update is taking forever! Not to mention how long the DLC is going to take. I MIGHT get to play it before I have to go to work... :crying:

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CoolioThane wrote...

I thought Chris claimed Project X was just a load of horse ****


Chris also said that Leviathan was, as you say, a load of horse****.  And Omega.  And pretty much everything else we've ever asked him about before its release.  We've concluded that his job is to deny everything until BioWare is ready to announce it.

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CoolioThane wrote...

I thought Chris claimed Project X was just a load of horse ****


Not to defend the crazy 'project x' rumours or anything, but Chris says a lot of things. Like how leviathan both would and wouldn't make any alterations to the ending in the same dang post.

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Dwailing wrote...


Maybe there's more than just the taking back of Omega.  Maybe it's in two parts and people haven't reached the second part yet.

Edit: I mean, I know BioWare lies, but I would like to think they would at least be honest about LENGTH.


Took me 2.5 hours on insanity, i dont skip any dialogue or cut scene or anything either. I paid for those more then combat in a mass effect game god damnit! At most if a player is very poor at the game shooting parts it could take 4h on insanity, its really not a hard dlc.

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Dwailing wrote...

I mean, I know BioWare lies, but I would like to think they would at least be honest about LENGTH.


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Dwailing wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Exactly what I thought it'd be by the sounds of it: a dolled up cut sidequest. I wonder why it took so long?


I'm curious, did Lair of the Shadow Broker REALLY have a huge impact on the story in ME2?  Did Overlord?  I don't see how this is any different.


Well they did expand on the story of ME2. But at the same time ME2 was never the conclusion of the trilogy.

Also, a fun thing about those DLCs is that they could take palce before or after the SM. All DLC we will get for ME3 will be before the ending.

So, thus, you find leviathan and recuit them: RGB
You liberate Omega from Cerberus: RGB
Next DLC? RGB

that was the only downside I saw to the legend save taking place before chronos. Once I saw that I knew that there was nothing but pre ending DLC in store:crying:

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Andromidius wrote...

The feedback so far is massively underwhelming from the Xbox crowd.  That worries me greatly when console players are complaining about there being nothing but action and no story.


That made me smile lol

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How long did Bioware claim Omega would be?

Honestly if this turns out bad, they aren't going to be selling any more DLC any time soon.

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Is there any information on who did music for Omega? Is it maybe Sascha and Cris?

That would probably help the situation.

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Andromidius wrote...

How long did Bioware claim Omega would be?

Honestly if this turns out bad, they aren't going to be selling any more DLC any time soon.


Sadly forum goers are still the minorities, ITers or not. People still fork up $15 for cod maps that they barelly get to play in matchmaking because they dont want to cut their communites in too much parts. There plently of people that will waste $15 for a dlc about shooting cerberus troups. Just like there was someone with enough money to waste to buy my barb gear in diablo 3 for $250, because that game is stagnanted in its mediocrity. People will waste cash they have nothing to worry about.

DLC are way more cost effective then the full game ever is. The production cost of omega dlc couldnt have been even 1/60 of what mass effect 3 was. Yet its price tag is 1/4, dont worry about them, cash is flowing even if their dlc sell drops by 2/3.

Modifié par Smeffects, 27 novembre 2012 - 04:10 .


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Andromidius wrote...

How long did Bioware claim Omega would be?

Honestly if this turns out bad, they aren't going to be selling any more DLC any time soon.


I thought they claimed it would take around five hours.  That's why I think there's still more to it that people haven't seen yet.  Also, Tully Ackland said that he usually plays it right before Thessia.  I wonder if that's significant.

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Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

How long did Bioware claim Omega would be?

Honestly if this turns out bad, they aren't going to be selling any more DLC any time soon.


I thought they claimed it would take around five hours.  That's why I think there's still more to it that people haven't seen yet.  Also, Tully Ackland said that he usually plays it right before Thessia.  I wonder if that's significant.


Okay.  That's twice what people are claiming right now.

And 'usually'?  That implies he plays it a lot.  Unless he's a game tester, that's a very strange thing to do.

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Smeffects wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

How long did Bioware claim Omega would be?

Honestly if this turns out bad, they aren't going to be selling any more DLC any time soon.


Sadly forum goers are still the minorities, ITers or not. People still fork up $15 for cod maps that they barelly get to play in matchmaking because they dont want to cut their communites in too much parts. There plently of people that will waste $15 for a dlc about shooting cerberus troups. Just like there was someone with enough money to waste to buy my barb gear in diablo 3 for $250, because that game is stagnanted in its mediocrity. People will waste cash they have nothing to worry about.

DLC are way more cost effective then the full game ever is. The production cost of omega dlc couldnt have been even 1/60 of what mass effect 3 was. Yet its price tag is 1/4, dont worry about them, cash is flowing even if their dlc sell drops by 2/3.


Multiplayer maps are different.  Single player is reliant on word of mouth to get good sales.  I mean the bad press Dragon Age 2 killed its DLC cycle, and made DA3 look rather shakey. 

If things don't improve, the Mass Effect franchise is in deep trouble.  If you upset the playerbase enough, no-one will buy the product anymore.

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Andromidius wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

How long did Bioware claim Omega would be?

Honestly if this turns out bad, they aren't going to be selling any more DLC any time soon.


I thought they claimed it would take around five hours.  That's why I think there's still more to it that people haven't seen yet.  Also, Tully Ackland said that he usually plays it right before Thessia.  I wonder if that's significant.


Okay.  That's twice what people are claiming right now.

And 'usually'?  That implies he plays it a lot.  Unless he's a game tester, that's a very strange thing to do.


As i said im good enough at shooters overall, I have long history in old school pro fps (quake2, ut, quake 3, <3), on insanity i took 2.5 h. I could imagine someone with a bit less experience in gaming could struggle a little bit more toward a 4h playtrought. This dlc consist about 80% of combat, so the time you take to pass it on insanity is pretty much dicated by that, 5h is actually believable, some people could struggle in some parts of the dlc.

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I'm not looking for Omega to be amazing or advance the main plot of the story in a significant way or anything like that. I'm just looking for another reason to go back to Mass Effect 3. And I seriously can't see the DLC ONLY being 2.5 hours for nearly 2 gigs of data. There has to be other crap in there that we just haven't seen yet. I would just ignore the trolls for the moment until you can play it for yourself and really delve into it.

As for Project X, Priestly mentioned they are working on A Project X, which everyone seems to think is ME4 or their new IP, but I just don't understand why he wouldn't just say "the new IP" if that were it, since they already announced they are working on it... The wording "Project X" seems more than coincidence.

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Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

How long did Bioware claim Omega would be?

Honestly if this turns out bad, they aren't going to be selling any more DLC any time soon.


I thought they claimed it would take around five hours.  That's why I think there's still more to it that people haven't seen yet.  Also, Tully Ackland said that he usually plays it right before Thessia.  I wonder if that's significant.


For all we know so far, that's because the actual 'Cerberus story progression' starts on Thessia.

It's kinda weird to take back Omega from Cerberus when you're already gunning for their HQ, you know?

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MWMike2011 wrote...

I'm not looking for Omega to be amazing or advance the main plot of the story in a significant way or anything like that. I'm just looking for another reason to go back to Mass Effect 3. And I seriously can't see the DLC ONLY being 2.5 hours for nearly 2 gigs of data. There has to be other crap in there that we just haven't seen yet. I would just ignore the trolls for the moment until you can play it for yourself and really delve into it.


first its 1.99gb and actually not unbelievable. It depends on how many assests are in the pack. I mapped alot on unreal engine(the one mass effect use duh). Whats happening here is that the whole omega assest, textures being the most heavy of any video game files, where not in the game files, because omega is not present. It was all added to this pack. Leviathan used assests that were already in the game package before. Omega is a big place and well pretty much all of the assests here are nothing you ever seen in mass effect 3, hence its very heavy.

I produced a ut3 map with full custom texturing and meshes for a story driven mod and it was about 500 mb(a single level). If i had profesionnal doing a bunch of compressed CGI video into it, could have easily hit 800 mb lol.

You also have to facture the fact that when you download a DLC or an Update of a game, its not only new files added into the game. Some of them are override of the older ones, already in place, to update them.

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