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Any word on when Omega is released for the PC?

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Should be in 20 minutes.

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EXMEFan wrote...

*sillyness


Listen to yourself! You're indoctrinated!

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Also DLC never changed the ending of a game......that would be stupid, if a DLC changed the actual ending of the game, and gave you a TRUE ending

Lawsuits from hell would open up

That would mean that you have to buy DLC just to get the full game, and that wouldn't be fair.

Bioware doesn't want that on their record.

What gaming company would release vital END GAME information in optional paid DLC? Thats just stupid.

You guys need to just admit your ideas aren't true, and that Bioware is about making money, and they wouldn't dare release the ENDING DLC but then change the ending YET AGAIN....

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estebanus wrote...

Any word on when Omega is released for the PC?

Should be any minute now.
https://twitter.com/...475324648513536

Modifié par paxxton, 27 novembre 2012 - 05:42 .


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EXMEFan wrote...


A wise man once said... 

"A man can be destroyed but not defeated."

Guess he was right...

Modifié par GhostShadow115, 27 novembre 2012 - 05:43 .


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Look ... it's this one again ...

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EXMEFan wrote...

Also DLC never changed the ending of a game......that would be stupid, if a DLC changed the actual ending of the game, and gave you a TRUE ending

Lawsuits from hell would open up

That would mean that you have to buy DLC just to get the full game, and that wouldn't be fair.

Bioware doesn't want that on their record.

What gaming company would release vital END GAME information in optional paid DLC? Thats just stupid.

You guys need to just admit your ideas aren't true, and that Bioware is about making money, and they wouldn't dare release the ENDING DLC but then change the ending YET AGAIN....


...Really? Bethesda did it with Fallout 3. Capcom did it with Azura's Wrath. Ubisoft did it with Prince of Persia 2008.

Edit: One would think I would learn trying to rationalize with the irrational...

Modifié par MWMike2011, 27 novembre 2012 - 05:43 .


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EXMEFan wrote...

Also DLC never changed the ending of a game......that would be stupid, if a DLC changed the actual ending of the game, and gave you a TRUE ending

Lawsuits from hell would open up

That would mean that you have to buy DLC just to get the full game, and that wouldn't be fair.

Bioware doesn't want that on their record.

What gaming company would release vital END GAME information in optional paid DLC? Thats just stupid.

You guys need to just admit your ideas aren't true, and that Bioware is about making money, and they wouldn't dare release the ENDING DLC but then change the ending YET AGAIN....


Fallout 3.

Asura's Wrath.

At least know what you're talking about before posting.

Edit: :ph34r:

Modifié par byne, 27 novembre 2012 - 05:43 .


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byne wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Also DLC never changed the ending of a game......that would be stupid, if a DLC changed the actual ending of the game, and gave you a TRUE ending

Lawsuits from hell would open up

That would mean that you have to buy DLC just to get the full game, and that wouldn't be fair.

Bioware doesn't want that on their record.

What gaming company would release vital END GAME information in optional paid DLC? Thats just stupid.

You guys need to just admit your ideas aren't true, and that Bioware is about making money, and they wouldn't dare release the ENDING DLC but then change the ending YET AGAIN....


Fallout 3.

Asura's Wrath.

At least know what you're talking about before posting.

Edit: :ph34r:


Web-five for posting the same thing! :o

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EXMEFan wrote...

Also DLC never changed the ending of a game......that would be stupid, if a DLC changed the actual ending of the game, and gave you a TRUE ending

Lawsuits from hell would open up

That would mean that you have to buy DLC just to get the full game, and that wouldn't be fair.

Bioware doesn't want that on their record.

What gaming company would release vital END GAME information in optional paid DLC? Thats just stupid.

You guys need to just admit your ideas aren't true, and that Bioware is about making money, and they wouldn't dare release the ENDING DLC but then change the ending YET AGAIN....


EC added refuse
-expanded the endings
-changed the normandy stranded scene (EMS Dependant)

then there are the others mentioned :)

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Ithurael wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

*sillyness


Listen to yourself! You're indoctrinated!


I think you guys are the one indoctrinated, you really believe something that is really not true.

All the sudden you guys view on what DLC is different because the game had a very bad ending.  You guys trust EA and Bioware too much.

They dropped the ball, they did this in Dragon Age 2 also.

With EA involved, these games are made to make as much money as possible.  Bioware DLC since EA has always been standalone missions that could have happened without changing what happens at the end of the game, except for maybe adding a comment or responses to different events in the game if you have any added characters in your party, but nothing too different from what anybody else would have said.

You guys are confusing DLC with Expansion Packs

If there was a mistery to the ending, it wouldn't be explained in a DLC, it would be a planned expansion pack.

DLC are just extra missions, with the perk of expanding the story of previously unfleshed out situations, in this case, Aria.

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*SPOILERS kinda*


"You hear any creepy whispering, you take your friends and run."

Interesting wording.

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EXMEFan wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

*sillyness


Listen to yourself! You're indoctrinated!


I think you guys are the one indoctrinated, you really believe something that is really not true.

All the sudden you guys view on what DLC is different because the game had a very bad ending.  You guys trust EA and Bioware too much.

They dropped the ball, they did this in Dragon Age 2 also.

With EA involved, these games are made to make as much money as possible.  Bioware DLC since EA has always been standalone missions that could have happened without changing what happens at the end of the game, except for maybe adding a comment or responses to different events in the game if you have any added characters in your party, but nothing too different from what anybody else would have said.

You guys are confusing DLC with Expansion Packs

If there was a mistery to the ending, it wouldn't be explained in a DLC, it would be a planned expansion pack.

DLC are just extra missions, with the perk of expanding the story of previously unfleshed out situations, in this case, Aria.




Ah, good, you are only here to cause trouble, not actually contribute anything of value, seeing as how three posts IN A ROW already shot you down. Gtfo

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EXMEFan wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

*sillyness


Listen to yourself! You're indoctrinated!


I think you guys are the one indoctrinated, you really believe something that is really not true.

All the sudden you guys view on what DLC is different because the game had a very bad ending.  You guys trust EA and Bioware too much.

They dropped the ball, they did this in Dragon Age 2 also.

With EA involved, these games are made to make as much money as possible.  Bioware DLC since EA has always been standalone missions that could have happened without changing what happens at the end of the game, except for maybe adding a comment or responses to different events in the game if you have any added characters in your party, but nothing too different from what anybody else would have said.

You guys are confusing DLC with Expansion Packs

If there was a mistery to the ending, it wouldn't be explained in a DLC, it would be a planned expansion pack.

DLC are just extra missions, with the perk of expanding the story of previously unfleshed out situations, in this case, Aria.




Well aside from the insults you've been throwing around, I agree with this one post.

Answers themselves, if there is IT or any other related mystery idea they're holding back on, would not come with DLC, but instead a more lengthy and exclusive expansion, like DA: Awakening.

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MWMike2011 wrote...

Ah, good, you are only here to cause trouble, not actually contribute anything of value, seeing as how three posts IN A ROW already shot you down. Gtfo


The last time he was here he specifically stated that he was gonna come here and troll when Omega came out. Why were you taking him seriously at all?

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SwobyJ wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

*sillyness


Listen to yourself! You're indoctrinated!


I think you guys are the one indoctrinated, you really believe something that is really not true.

All the sudden you guys view on what DLC is different because the game had a very bad ending.  You guys trust EA and Bioware too much.

They dropped the ball, they did this in Dragon Age 2 also.

With EA involved, these games are made to make as much money as possible.  Bioware DLC since EA has always been standalone missions that could have happened without changing what happens at the end of the game, except for maybe adding a comment or responses to different events in the game if you have any added characters in your party, but nothing too different from what anybody else would have said.

You guys are confusing DLC with Expansion Packs

If there was a mistery to the ending, it wouldn't be explained in a DLC, it would be a planned expansion pack.

DLC are just extra missions, with the perk of expanding the story of previously unfleshed out situations, in this case, Aria.




Well aside from the insults you've been throwing around, I agree with this one post.

Answers themselves, if there is IT or any other related mystery idea they're holding back on, would not come with DLC, but instead a more lengthy and exclusive expansion, like DA: Awakening.


This is exactly what I kind of think they will do. It might not be released until closer to when ME4 is released, but I get the strong impression they are working on expansion-sized DLC that will give us all the answers we are looking for, something that required all the writers to return, and at the same time will bridge the events of ME3 and ME4.

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Just finished Omega....

...massive disappointment.

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So the big Aria speech scene is full of animation glitches. Come on Bioware, you have months for this.

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byne wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Ah, good, you are only here to cause trouble, not actually contribute anything of value, seeing as how three posts IN A ROW already shot you down. Gtfo


The last time he was here he specifically stated that he was gonna come here and troll when Omega came out. Why were you taking him seriously at all?


Because I'm still somewhat of an internet noob and am constantly surprised by the appearance of a troll, though I alway regret said surprise. And plus, I wind up taking long sojourns away from BSN and end up missing somewhere around 100 pages of this thread. lol

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CoolioThane wrote...

Just finished Omega....

...massive disappointment.


I wasnt ever expecting much out of Omega in the first place, and didnt think it'd really relate to IT in any way, so I dont think I'll be as disappointed as some people.

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just finished Omega (atleast I think I did) and it was about 4 hours on Insanity for me. still managed to miss stuff but it was severely underwhelming plotwise so far unless a part 2 shows up,

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byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Just finished Omega....

...massive disappointment.


I wasnt ever expecting much out of Omega in the first place, and didnt think it'd really relate to IT in any way, so I dont think I'll be as disappointed as some people.


I'll admit, I'll just be happy to finally retake Omega and kill some Cerberus goons.  Plus, I get the feeling that datamining this son of a gun is going to be rewarding.  Once others do it, since I don't know how.

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MWMike2011 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

*sillyness


Listen to yourself! You're indoctrinated!


I think you guys are the one indoctrinated, you really believe something that is really not true.

All the sudden you guys view on what DLC is different because the game had a very bad ending.  You guys trust EA and Bioware too much.

They dropped the ball, they did this in Dragon Age 2 also.

With EA involved, these games are made to make as much money as possible.  Bioware DLC since EA has always been standalone missions that could have happened without changing what happens at the end of the game, except for maybe adding a comment or responses to different events in the game if you have any added characters in your party, but nothing too different from what anybody else would have said.

You guys are confusing DLC with Expansion Packs

If there was a mistery to the ending, it wouldn't be explained in a DLC, it would be a planned expansion pack.

DLC are just extra missions, with the perk of expanding the story of previously unfleshed out situations, in this case, Aria.




Well aside from the insults you've been throwing around, I agree with this one post.

Answers themselves, if there is IT or any other related mystery idea they're holding back on, would not come with DLC, but instead a more lengthy and exclusive expansion, like DA: Awakening.


This is exactly what I kind of think they will do. It might not be released until closer to when ME4 is released, but I get the strong impression they are working on expansion-sized DLC that will give us all the answers we are looking for, something that required all the writers to return, and at the same time will bridge the events of ME3 and ME4.


Not expansion sized DLC< unless they get some special permission from Microsoft.

But an actual expansion, with a disk and big separate story, minimum dozen or so hours long.

Remember that Awakening allowed the player to either carry on the previous main character, or be a new Grey Warden, and the story would reflect that.

That DLC involving all the writers just may be the near-reveal of it, but any DLC that takes place prior to Cerberus Base won't reveal squat - just give tidbits of story hints (Leviathan, Ashes), and thematic messages (EC, Omega).

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MWMike2011 wrote...

byne wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Also DLC never changed the ending of a game......that would be stupid, if a DLC changed the actual ending of the game, and gave you a TRUE ending

Lawsuits from hell would open up

That would mean that you have to buy DLC just to get the full game, and that wouldn't be fair.

Bioware doesn't want that on their record.

What gaming company would release vital END GAME information in optional paid DLC? Thats just stupid.

You guys need to just admit your ideas aren't true, and that Bioware is about making money, and they wouldn't dare release the ENDING DLC but then change the ending YET AGAIN....


Fallout 3.

Asura's Wrath.

At least know what you're talking about before posting.

Edit: :ph34r:


Web-five for posting the same thing! :o


Broken Steel is an expansion pack, not DLC...learn the difference, you guys are looking very foolish.  

And then you named a Capcom title, and Capcom is in deep shyt, and financial trouble for how it handles DLC.  I never played Azura's Wrath. 

And Mass Effect 3 didn't charge you for the ending change, and the fact it already change its ending even further proves this dumb IT wrong.

You guys are wrong, you guys are just grasping for straws, being gullible.  You guys think Bioware hears you, I guy think bioware is on your side on this.

The fact is, Bioware would have never changed the ending if it had a perfect reason why the ending didn't make sense.  

Guess what, they CHANGED it, they fleshed it out, made things be explained more, and guess what you IT people were saying before they released the EC patch?

You thought they were going to reveal indoctrination, guess what, they didn't.

Now you guys are still on here, 9 months later, hoping and praying that they reveal it.

The fact is they didn't reveal it in the MAIN GAME, they revealed everything they possible could, the best bet was for them to say YOU WERE INDOCTRINATED, and then you play the DLC to see the hints of how that actually happened. 

It would have gave more people reason to pay for DLC, to see how the twist could have happened.  Other than that, some guy on youtube says Indoctrination Theory, only a few dumb asses believe, Bioware never vouch for that, DLC comes out that are stories on their own, and you people are still grasping for straws.