Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!
#52976
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:19
#52977
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:22
RavenEyry wrote...
DLC and expansion packs are the same thing these days. It's just you can get away with really small expansion packs.
Exactly. They used to be just expansion packs because internet speeds were too ridiculous to require them be downloadable only, so they released all the extra content they had worked on under a newer name and one whole disc. The only reason they would release a separate disc now is if they compile all the DLC on one disc, like Fallout 3 and Borderlands did, or because the size is far too big for DLC.
#52978
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:22
#52979
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:22
#52980
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:25
#52981
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:28
Dwailing wrote...
You know, if EA is really as money hungry as people claim, then IT would actually make a lot of sense. If the reveal costs money and people buy it, then they make even MORE money than they would with no reveal.
(Ok here is another post without insults, and a serious discussion of the game)
No it won't because then people would feel like their choice didn't matter because you are TELLING them that they didn't freely make that choice.
Also they would have revealed it in the game, and or by now if it existed.
People always have their reasons to keep paying for DLC, you guys just have a very weird one.
And don't forget, most people who played the game don't like the ending, and think it was bad writing.....we don't care about indoctrination, because even with that, the ending is made even worst.
We thought we were going to have that feeling you had when you beat Mass Effect 1, with the cool credit music and everything.
This game gave no sense of fulfillment....no epic ending, no epic boss fight at the end, no interaction with the Reapers.
A lot of ppl remember Soveriegn, who is the best character is the whole series to most of us.
Some of Soveriegn's words: "You cannot grasp the nature of our existence" "We are each a nation, independant"
Soveriegn made the Reapers seem like this mystical race, so far removed from human understanding that it made them even more of a villian race. He chastised organic comprehension of what they do, he made it seem that the Reapers were of a God's mentality, and that even their foolishness trumps organic wisdom.
Yet the Star Child explaination of what happen was very simple and takes only a 10 year old human's comprehension. The star child and the choices at the end contradicts what a lot of people thought the series was about.
I don't see how can you guys be TRUE Mass Effect fans, and not hold Bioware accountable. First Dragon Age 2, and then Mass Effect 3 after it.
It is obvious that the story CHANGED the writing CHANGE, the purpose of the Reapers were CHANGE, maybe because they couldn't decide how to follow through with a race of God-like beings, or that the technological dedicated for making unique Reapers and unique Boss Fights were just too much of a task.
But the story is broken, its not the same Mass Effect as it was in Mass Effect 1, the best in the series story wise.
#52982
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:29
CoolioThane wrote...
Yeah, EXME, Broken steel is content which you download. I think it's called Downloadable content. Pretty challenging concept lol
I downloaded Mass Effect 3 retail, does that mean its DLC?
#52983
Guest_SwobyJ_*
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:29
Guest_SwobyJ_*
*Adjunct pops in through the window*
Aria: "Nyreen, wake up!"
#52984
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:30
CoolioThane wrote...
Yeah, EXME, Broken steel is content which you download. I think it's called Downloadable content. Pretty challenging concept lol
Also Broken Steel, which I played on Xbox, came in a disc with four other expansions. And they were referred to as expansion packs. Because they extended the game past the ending...
#52985
Guest_SwobyJ_*
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:30
Guest_SwobyJ_*
szkasypcze wrote...
byne wrote...
EXMEFan wrote...
And now to see you guys slowly give up hope, it makes me feel good inside. lmfao...Bioware is screwing you guys out of more and more money.
Ignoring the fact that I dont see anyone slowly giving up hope, the idea that you like watching someone lose hope and it actually makes you feel pleasure is an extremely disturbing statement about what kind of person you are.
Yeah byne, but you have to admit that Omega is more wasted than used advantage to make ME3 better. As for me I still believe in IT but with time it's more wanting to believe than believing itself. What the other guy said is sick, but maybe he was one of the most believing ones, then turned out psycho while being disappointed.
I loved ME since the very beginning, but it being the biggest failure in gaming history is closing fast. What's disguisting is that the whole situation is caused by little detail like the ending. Way to go Bioware....so far.....
"There's gonna be a lot of angry orphans out there once this war is over" -Garrus
#52986
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:30
#52987
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:31
SwobyJ wrote...
*Nyreen talking about helping everyone (civilians)*
*Adjunct pops in through the window*
Aria: "Nyreen, wake up!"
Has nothing to do with Shepard
#52988
Guest_SwobyJ_*
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:31
Guest_SwobyJ_*
MWMike2011 wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
You know, if EA is really as money hungry as people claim, then IT would actually make a lot of sense. If the reveal costs money and people buy it, then they make even MORE money than they would with no reveal.
It's all starting to fall together now, isn't it? They saw how people were pissed off with Fallout 3 and saw that everyone was more than happy to fork over the money to buy the better ending and figured, we need to do that with this shiny new, beloved series we just picked up. Granted, they weren't going to do it in ME2, that would show their hand too soon. Do it with ME3, the supposed "end" of the series, and they will make gold because they KNOW people would buy it. Even if they pissed of a minority of their fanbase in the process, they will make bank on this thing. Throw in multiplayer to keep the masses busy while they slowly pull the curtain back...
Most devs and even publishers (yes even EA) aren't THIS evil, but yes, if this was the plan then that sort of thing would probably be on their minds imo
#52989
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:32
EXMEFan wrote...
CoolioThane wrote...
Yeah, EXME, Broken steel is content which you download. I think it's called Downloadable content. Pretty challenging concept lol
Also Broken Steel, which I played on Xbox, came in a disc with four other expansions. And they were referred to as expansion packs. Because they extended the game past the ending...
Only Broken Steel extends the game past the ending. You're really just arguing semantics here.
#52990
Guest_SwobyJ_*
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:33
Guest_SwobyJ_*
EDIT: K, I'm starting to love this DLC's music now that Reaper creatures are on the scene.
Modifié par SwobyJ, 27 novembre 2012 - 06:35 .
#52991
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:36
DLC = Downloadable content = expansions/addons/whatever that you can DOWNLOADEXMEFan wrote...
Also Broken Steel, which I played on Xbox, came in a disc with four other expansions. And they were referred to as expansion packs. Because they extended the game past the ending...CoolioThane wrote...
Yeah, EXME, Broken steel is content which you download. I think it's called Downloadable content. Pretty challenging concept lol
Buddy - for someone who trys so hard to make jokes of other people you're a really slow one ...
#52992
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:37
#52993
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:41
Don't tell me what I played or didn't play. Mass Effect 1 was the best story in gaming other than the Metal Gear Solid series. ME2 was passable but you could see them trying to add elements that weren't in the previous game, just to have a reason to make two more games. But ME2 didn't mess up the lore of the Reapers, but we never really faced any reapers.
And Mass Effect 3 comes, all the reapers look like squids, you never have a real conversation with one, you have one half ass on rails boss fight with one, you fight another that abstractly as he is used as an environmental hazard more than anything else, and you get to the end and all the sudden these guys were puppets of some AI in the form of some child that died at the beginning of the game.
You guys are trusting Bioware to have had made some secret clever design in the game. That the game writer skillfully hints at indoctrination of Shepard, but at the same time the writer couldn't even keep the same meaning of Mass Effect from the first game. Things drastically changed for the Reapers. Not only are they not in control, they have NO REASON to want to be preserved, since they do not have Independence, they are controlled by an AI. And at worst they go back into the darkness of space and just sit there until commanded.
#52994
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:43
Mr.lmfao get out bro
you are a terrible troll
Now, to the rest of the people here; what do you think about the team that made omega being the same team that is in charge of mass effect 4?
#52995
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:44
You do realise that IT means those retcons about the reapers aren't really there?EXMEFan wrote...
That the game writer skillfully hints at indoctrination of Shepard, but at the same time the writer couldn't even keep the same meaning of Mass Effect from the first game. Things drastically changed for the Reapers. Not only are they not in control, they have NO REASON to want to be preserved, since they do not have Independence, they are controlled by an AI. And at worst they go back into the darkness of space and just sit there until commanded.
#52996
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:44
byne wrote...
EXMEFan wrote...
CoolioThane wrote...
Yeah, EXME, Broken steel is content which you download. I think it's called Downloadable content. Pretty challenging concept lol
Also Broken Steel, which I played on Xbox, came in a disc with four other expansions. And they were referred to as expansion packs. Because they extended the game past the ending...
Only Broken Steel extends the game past the ending. You're really just arguing semantics here.
Well you guys just said Broken Steel wasn't an expansion pack, it is....now you guys are saying DLC and expansion packs are the same....you guys are the one arguing the sematics.
There is also a reason why Broken Steel changed the ending, it was an open world game, and people wanted to finish missions after they beat the game. It was for gameplay purposes the ending was change.
You guys think games are just stories, there is gameplay, and money involved in every move a company makes.
Bioware isn't the same Bioware......you guys have this naive faith in them.
#52997
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:45
anyway i gotta go. i saw last poster name so i know y'all got troll feeding to do. feed away folks.
will be back within a week hopefully. xbl fl requests sent. DO NOT spoil omega plz kthxbye
#52998
Guest_SwobyJ_*
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:47
Guest_SwobyJ_*
And I'm on essentially the 3rdish mission of the DLC and nothing yet, and there probably won't be anything.
Some interesting lines and similarities between certain things, but nothing explicit and nothing about the Crucible.
Add me on xblive SwobyJ if you want.
#52999
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:50
RavenEyry wrote...
You do realise that IT means those retcons about the reapers aren't really there?EXMEFan wrote...
That the game writer skillfully hints at indoctrination of Shepard, but at the same time the writer couldn't even keep the same meaning of Mass Effect from the first game. Things drastically changed for the Reapers. Not only are they not in control, they have NO REASON to want to be preserved, since they do not have Independence, they are controlled by an AI. And at worst they go back into the darkness of space and just sit there until commanded.
Yeah but that insults the intelligence of those who bought the game, complained about the ending, and they changed it for free.
If they then further say none of that stuff happens, and that apparently none of your choices matter, that whole time you are talking to the Star Child was just a waste of time so we can dick you out of your money with DLC, well that would be even more of a bad business decision, and bad writing.
A good game writer would have revealed that in game. And again, even in the game itself, you have no real interaction with the Reapers, they are kind of the side story. It takes them a very long time to destory earth, with no interference while you go out and gather the troops, and build something that would be in their best interest that you never built. But yet you are telling me that they are tricking you to pick the right way to make them useless?
It makes no sense, would have been best if you never build the crucible.
And if what the star child said was false, why did the Reapers leave once you pick anything other than destory? Wouldn't they still destroy you anyways, because if you are saying the star child lied, then why would they do all this, and just up and leave?
It makes no sense.
#53000
Posté 27 novembre 2012 - 06:53




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