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[MWMike2011]

Davik Kang wrote...

ok so i am visiting this forum with a blindfold on, not gonna read any posts on here til I've DL'd Omega and played it cos I know it will get spoiled otherwise, but wasiritewasiritewasirite? there was new info on citadel and or crucible yesyesyes? if not you're not looking hard enough

anyway i gotta go. i saw last poster name so i know y'all got troll feeding to do. feed away folks.

will be back within a week hopefully. xbl fl requests sent. DO NOT spoil omega plz kthxbye

I really just started, so I don't know much more beyond what the trolls are ****ing about.

[MWMike2011]

EXMEFan wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...
That the game writer skillfully hints at indoctrination of Shepard, but at the same time the writer couldn't even keep the same meaning of Mass Effect from the first game. Things drastically changed for the Reapers. Not only are they not in control, they have NO REASON to want to be preserved, since they do not have Independence, they are controlled by an AI. And at worst they go back into the darkness of space and just sit there until commanded.

You do realise that IT means those retcons about the reapers aren't really there?

Yeah but that insults the intelligence of those who bought the game, complained about the ending, and they changed it for free.

If they then further say none of that stuff happens, and that apparently none of your choices matter, that whole time you are talking to the Star Child was just a waste of time so we can dick you out of your money with DLC, well that would be even more of a bad business decision, and bad writing.

A good game writer would have revealed that in game.  And again, even in the game itself, you have no real interaction with the Reapers, they are kind of the side story.  It takes them a very long time to destory earth, with no interference while you go out and gather the troops, and build something that would be in their best interest that you never built.  But yet you are telling me that they are tricking you to pick the right way to make them useless?

It makes no sense, would have been best if you never build the crucible.  

And if what the star child said was false, why did the Reapers leave once you pick anything other than destory?  Wouldn't they still destroy you anyways, because if you are saying the star child lied, then why would they do all this, and just up and leave?

It makes no sense.  

I get what you are saying, but the endings as is is insulting to intelligence, period, and EC was insulting to the rest of us. Seems as though they only made to throw a bone at people, and really just muddied everything up further.

And as for the reasoning behind building the Crucible, it's simple: hope. There was no other way to defeat the Reapers, and Jevik mentioned they started working on it during their cycle, so everyone assumes if it was good enough for the Protheans, it's good enough for us. No one realizes it's really just a trap set by the Reaper-worshipping forces that think if they can amass everyone into one central location, their Reaper overlords will make them invincible, or something to that effect. And we all know, making a deal with the Devils ALWAYS works all the time.

IT makes a lot more sense if you go into it with an open mind...

Modifié par MWMike2011, 27 novembre 2012 - 07:01 .

[Bill Casey]

EXMEFan wrote...

If they then further say none of that stuff happens, and that apparently none of your choices matter, that whole time you are talking to the Star Child was just a waste of time so we can dick you out of your money with DLC, well that would be even more of a bad business decision, and bad writing.

But your choice does matter...

[EXMEFan]

How am I trolling when I am trying to tell you guys to stop this wild goose chase. My first comment was met with you guys acting like what I was saying came from the moon.

As if this IT is so fool proof that anybody who think its junk is a fool.

Thats why I am taking the tone I am. Everytime I make a very valid point, you guys never direct respond, you call me a troll and try to find one or two things I said that can be debated, but none of the points you guys try to debate is the meat of what I am saying.

[Bill Casey]

You don't make valid points...

[RavenEyry]

EXMEFan wrote...

How am I trolling when I am trying to tell you guys to stop this wild goose chase. My first comment was met with you guys acting like what I was saying came from the moon.

You thinking it's a wild goose chase doesn't give you the right to demand we stop following it.

[EXMEFan]

Bill Casey wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

If they then further say none of that stuff happens, and that apparently none of your choices matter, that whole time you are talking to the Star Child was just a waste of time so we can dick you out of your money with DLC, well that would be even more of a bad business decision, and bad writing.

But your choice does matter...

It doesn't because the game would be saying you made this choice because you were controlled.  

It a different between being tricked, and being indoctrinated.  Shepard walked into a lot of set ups during his adventures, so does that mean he was mind controlled?  No, his predictable responses just were plotted for in advanced.

What I am saying is that if the way I played the WHOLE GAME was that of a guy who wouldnt want to control the Reapers, my reason for picking CONTROL is because I am picking the type of choice I have always picked in Mass Effect.

Basically control was Renegade, Synthesis was in the middle, and Destroy was Paragon.....

It was as simple as that.   The choices reflected the three types of choices you could always picked in Mass Effect, and they try to present those for the different type of players.

It has nothing to do with mind control, you were just going to pick the type of choice you always picked in the series.  You don't need mind control to make somebody do what they were going to do anyways.

[CoolioThane]

Is it hard being you, Exme?

[RavenEyry]

Noooo... the goal of all Shepards was to destroy the reapers. It was mentioned once or twice.

[EXMEFan]

Bill Casey wrote...

You don't make valid points...

You guys don't make sense. 

If my Shepard chosed to keep the Collector's base, then he doesn't need to be mind controlled to want to control the Reapers, he is already that type of character

[MWMike2011]

EXMEFan wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

If they then further say none of that stuff happens, and that apparently none of your choices matter, that whole time you are talking to the Star Child was just a waste of time so we can dick you out of your money with DLC, well that would be even more of a bad business decision, and bad writing.

But your choice does matter...

It doesn't because the game would be saying you made this choice because you were controlled.  

It a different between being tricked, and being indoctrinated.  Shepard walked into a lot of set ups during his adventures, so does that mean he was mind controlled?  No, his predictable responses just were plotted for in advanced.

What I am saying is that if the way I played the WHOLE GAME was that of a guy who wouldnt want to control the Reapers, my reason for picking CONTROL is because I am picking the type of choice I have always picked in Mass Effect.

Basically control was Renegade, Synthesis was in the middle, and Destroy was Paragon.....

It was as simple as that.   The choices reflected the three types of choices you could always picked in Mass Effect, and they try to present those for the different type of players.

It has nothing to do with mind control, you were just going to pick the type of choice you always picked in the series.  You don't need mind control to make somebody do what they were going to do anyways.

But, why would they want to tell you that before they were ready? Why not keep some mystery behind the true ending, keep everyone guessing and debating, even going so far as flatout denying everything, until they were ready?

[RavenEyry]

EXMEFan wrote...

You guys don't make sense. 

If my Shepard chosed to keep the Collector's base, then he doesn't need to be mind controlled to want to control the Reapers, he is already that type of character

Shepard saves the base because it might have valuable reaper fighting knowledge and technology.

TIM was the one who wanted to find a way to control the reapers.

Easy mistake to make, they look so similar.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Haha Hey guys It's been, what? A month or two? Probably a few hundred pages for you guys

Well I am back from my hiatus and would like an update on what's been going on, are we talking about Omega yet?

Oh I come back to trolls romping around

[masster blaster]

Sees what's happening walks out the thread. Okay so Omega was not what it was cracked up to be, but I don't think Bioware really had the heart to make Omega. many fans were saying " of if this happence in Omega I am done with ME3. And so on"

Also to be honest I don't think Omega was even really that big of a deal. Also most of them want to move on to the next dlc already, and ALL writers are on board, and are very happy to be working on it. Heck even Mike Gamble says he was playing the next dlc already for about 2 horus, and he is still going. He may be trying to market sell, but it looks prosmissing.

Modifié par masster blaster, 27 novembre 2012 - 07:18 .

[Dwailing]

EXMEFan wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

You don't make valid points...

You guys don't make sense. 

If my Shepard chosed to keep the Collector's base, then he doesn't need to be mind controlled to want to control the Reapers, he is already that type of character

I was always under the impression that Shepard saved the base in the hopes that it would yield some kind of Reaper weakness or some kind of technology that would help to destroy the Reapers.  Besides, listen to Shepard throughout the game.  He always says that controlling the Reapers is impossible and the only way to win this is to destroy the Reapers.  Why would a Shepard in his/her right mind suddenly accept that s/he could contol the Reapers just because their boss told him/her s/he could?

[MWMike2011]

masster blaster wrote...

Sees what's happening walks out the thread. Okay so Omega was not what it was cracked up to be, but I don't think Bioware really had the heart to make Omega. So many fans were saying " of if this happence in Omega I am done with ME3. And so on"

Also to be honest I don't think Omega was even really that big of a deal. Also most of them want to move on to the next dlc already, and ALL writers are on board, and are very happy to be working on it. Heck even Mike Gamble says he was playing the next dlc already for about 2 horus, and he is still going. He may be trying to market sell, but it looks prosmissing.

I'm with you there. If Omega never came out, I would not have missed it. So far, it's not bad. Granted, I've only put about 30 minutes into it. The best thing I can say about it this far is that it gave me another reason to play Mass Effect. Other than that...I wouldn't have missed Omega if I never had to go back there. lol

[RavenEyry]

Not a troll, just someone who's always right about everything and is horrified by those who think differently.

Don't call everyone who disagrees with us a troll, it makes us look bad.

[masster blaster]

Hey Neb it's good to see you again. Ya Omega for some reason is getting a bad reviews from the fans, but I haven't played it ye. And it would be funny that if you don't understand what Omega was really was about, other than taking back Omega, than how can you understand the endings.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

masster blaster wrote...

Sees what's happening walks out the thread. Okay so Omega was not what it was cracked up to be, but I don't think Bioware really had the heart to make Omega. So many fans were saying " of if this happence in Omega I am done with ME3. And so on"

Also to be honest I don't think Omega was even really that big of a deal. Also most of them want to move on to the next dlc already, and ALL writers are on board, and are very happy to be working on it. Heck even Mike Gamble says he was playing the next dlc already for about 2 horus, and he is still going. He may be trying to market sell, but it looks prosmissing.

Really? Any hints as to what that may be? Last I remember they were leaking pics of Omega and Gamble was teasing about playing that...

[Dwailing]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Haha Hey guys It's been, what? A month or two? Probably a few hundred pages for you guys

Well I am back from my hiatus and would like an update on what's been going on, are we talking about Omega yet?

Oh I come back to trolls romping around

You're back!  Long time no see.  Sorry about the state of the thread. 

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

masster blaster wrote...

Hey Neb it's good to see you again. Ya Omega for some reason is getting a bad reviews from the fans, but I haven't played it ye. And it would be funny that if you don't understand what Omega was really was about, other than taking back Omega, than how can you understand the endings.

Sup masster, good to see that some of the old faces are still here!

I haven't seen any reviews, other than what has been posted in this thead within the last 5 minutes, and I can't make my mind up on purchasing it or not...

Haha "what a twist"!

@Raven sorry, I understand what you are saying, it was just reflex.

Hey Dwailing!  It feels good to be back in this thread! I honestly can't remember why I stopped loggin in

Modifié par NebuchadnezzaRT, 27 novembre 2012 - 07:22 .

[masster blaster]

Neb we think it's the Citadel dlc, and the writers are really excited about the next dlc. So we have to wait, unless there is something in the Omega files.

[RavenEyry]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

@Raven sorry, I understand what you are saying, it was just reflex.

S'alright, it's just they use it as ammo in the 'ITers are anti-social recluses' gun.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Ohh, I remember the Citadel DLC bits that were mined from the other ones.. Hmmmmm.

And I thought BW stopped putting blatant leaks in their DLC?