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[masster blaster]

Okay guys I have to go back to class now. Will chat with you let Neb, and everyone, but school is very important to me. Plus in my next class we are watching Edwardscicorhands.

[masster blaster]

Neb it never hurts to look, okay really have to go bye.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

RavenEyry wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

@Raven sorry, I understand what you are saying, it was just reflex.

S'alright, it's just they use it as ammo in the 'ITers are anti-social recluses' gun.

And they definitely should'nt be getting any free ammo hand outs from me 
Just out of curiosity, what was he going on about?

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

masster blaster wrote...

Neb it never hurts to look, okay really have to go bye.

Adios, love that movie

[AresKeith]

The Omega DLC looks good just not worth $15

[RavenEyry]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
Just out of curiosity, what was he going on about?

"It's just bad writing! Stop saying otherwise, it's ruining my angst"

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

RavenEyry wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
Just out of curiosity, what was he going on about?

"It's just bad writing! Stop saying otherwise, it's ruining my angst"

Oh 

[EXMEFan]

MWMike2011 wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

If they then further say none of that stuff happens, and that apparently none of your choices matter, that whole time you are talking to the Star Child was just a waste of time so we can dick you out of your money with DLC, well that would be even more of a bad business decision, and bad writing.

But your choice does matter...

It doesn't because the game would be saying you made this choice because you were controlled.  

It a different between being tricked, and being indoctrinated.  Shepard walked into a lot of set ups during his adventures, so does that mean he was mind controlled?  No, his predictable responses just were plotted for in advanced.

What I am saying is that if the way I played the WHOLE GAME was that of a guy who wouldnt want to control the Reapers, my reason for picking CONTROL is because I am picking the type of choice I have always picked in Mass Effect.

Basically control was Renegade, Synthesis was in the middle, and Destroy was Paragon.....

It was as simple as that.   The choices reflected the three types of choices you could always picked in Mass Effect, and they try to present those for the different type of players.

It has nothing to do with mind control, you were just going to pick the type of choice you always picked in the series.  You don't need mind control to make somebody do what they were going to do anyways.

But, why would they want to tell you that before they were ready? Why not keep some mystery behind the true ending, keep everyone guessing and debating, even going so far as flatout denying everything, until they were ready?

Because thats not how business works.  They make more games than just this one game, they have more things to focus on than an hidden ending.  

Also, nobody is asking for this.....they already responded to what the people asked for, they asked for a better ending with understanding.

So why would they give you more conversation options with the Star Child, give him more dialog, if it never mattered because he was lying, and the ending was still some hidden agenda?  It doesn't make sense, it doesn't work, and the majority of the people would feel lied to and cheated by bioware.

[byne]

Harrot doesnt have his trademark cigar!

This is an outrage!

[EXMEFan]

RavenEyry wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

You guys don't make sense. 

If my Shepard chosed to keep the Collector's base, then he doesn't need to be mind controlled to want to control the Reapers, he is already that type of character

Shepard saves the base because it might have valuable reaper fighting knowledge and technology.

TIM was the one who wanted to find a way to control the reapers.

Easy mistake to make, they look so similar.

No you can basically CHOOSE what Shepard says about this......And you can be very renegade about it

OR did you guys forget YOU CHOOSE WHAT SHEPARD SAYS IN THIS GAME!?

Shepard has no defined personality, you basically picks what he says about the plot.....MY SHEPARD wanted to use the base, thats why I kept it, you get Renegade points for keeping the base, you get paragon for destroying it.

Or are you stupid freaks too dillusional to realize you were playing a video game dictated by the choices of the players?

[RavenEyry]

EXMEFan wrote...

Or are you stupid freaks too dillusional to realize you were playing a video game dictated by the choices of the players?

I don't recall any point letting you say whatever you wanted, just choosing the tone of the response.

Modifié par RavenEyry, 27 novembre 2012 - 07:39 .

[EXMEFan]

The game played the Indoctrination card with The Illusive man, he was at his breaking point, he was visually at his breaking point.....you help the Illusive Man break his indoctrination, because he could have easily just took the elevator, and activated the crucible himself and used the Reapers to destroy all the races but Human Kind....

Would the Reapers rather have The Illusive Man, who is easy to manipulate, than Shepard?

See, you guys Theory fails....

Reapers would have wanted the Illusive Man, not Shepard

[RavenEyry]

EXMEFan wrote...
 because he could have easily just took the elevator, and activated the crucible himself and used the Reapers to destroy all the races but Human Kind....

"He could never control us because we control him"

[dorktainian]

EXMEFan wrote...

The game played the Indoctrination card with The Illusive man, he was at his breaking point, he was visually at his breaking point.....you help the Illusive Man break his indoctrination, because he could have easily just took the elevator, and activated the crucible himself and used the Reapers to destroy all the races but Human Kind....

Would the Reapers rather have The Illusive Man, who is easy to manipulate, than Shepard?

See, you guys Theory fails....

Reapers would have wanted the Illusive Man, not Shepard

 No Because TIM would have enslaved them given the chance.  They want Shepard because they want a hero of humanity to fall.  To betray his people.  Remember the indoctrination codex about how if indoctrination takes hold of a leader the effects can be devastating?  TIM is insignificant to the reapers because he does not represent humanity.  Shepard does.

[EXMEFan]

dorktainian wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

The game played the Indoctrination card with The Illusive man, he was at his breaking point, he was visually at his breaking point.....you help the Illusive Man break his indoctrination, because he could have easily just took the elevator, and activated the crucible himself and used the Reapers to destroy all the races but Human Kind....

Would the Reapers rather have The Illusive Man, who is easy to manipulate, than Shepard?

See, you guys Theory fails....

Reapers would have wanted the Illusive Man, not Shepard

 No Because TIM would have enslaved them given the chance.  They want Shepard because they want a hero of humanity to fall.  To betray his people.  Remember the indoctrination codex about how if indoctrination takes hold of a leader the effects can be devastating?  TIM is insignificant to the reapers because he does not represent humanity.  Shepard does.

Then why was The Illusive Man indoctrinated in the first place? Why was he still being indoctrinated and lead to go up to the crucible until the moment Shepard showed up?

See how you don't make sense at all?  THEY INDOCTRINATED HIM! HE WAS ACTIVELY INDOCTRINATED and broke out of it with the help of Shepard,   IF they didnt want The Illusive Man they would have never indoctrinated him....plain and simple.

Lmfao you guys do not make sense.  And the Illusive Man LOVED humanity, but he HATES all the other races.  He would do anything it takes.

He was just like Saren, if they thought Saren was perfect, then certainly they would have loved to have the Illusive Man, in which they did, that was the whole reason of him turning on Shepard.

The indoctrination card was played on the Illusive Man, the big reveal was that TIM was indoctrinated, thats why he was acting differently than he was in Mass Effect 2.

They knew by dividing up humanity, they could win Earth.

You guy do not understand the story at all.

[EXMEFan]

RavenEyry wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...
 because he could have easily just took the elevator, and activated the crucible himself and used the Reapers to destroy all the races but Human Kind....

"He could never control us because we control him"

My point exactly, so if he couldn't control them, they would RATHER HIM TRY!

TIM WANTED THIS, HE WANTED CONTROL, SO IF ALL WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WAS HE FOUND OUT HE COULDNT CONTROL THEM

REAPERS FOR THE BIGGGGGGGGGGGGG ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS WINNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Why would they MAKE SHEPARD control them, when they had somebody indoctrinated already who couldn't used the crucible?

Don't make sense for them to indoctrinate somebody who could use the crucible.....or the fact sense you guys think Shepard was CONTROL, that means him and TIM were under the same situation?

See you guys fail so much at this simple point.

What I am saying kills the indoctrination theory.

[CoolioThane]

Yep, we are all retards who don't understand the story at all. You win. Wanna leave now?

[RavenEyry]

If they didn't want Shepard to use the crucible, why bring them up to the control area?

[EXMEFan]

I single handedly destoryed this thread. Indoctrination does not make sense because The Illusive Man was indoctrinated, and they would have used him to try to activate the crucible, and just killed Shepard.

If somebody who was control can't control the Reapers, then how could Shepard choose control the Reapers if he was indoctrinated and was controlled like The Illusive MAn?

LMFAO, YOU GUYS LOSE

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KNOCK OUT. No way you can argue that point.......

[cavs25]

EXMEFan wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...
 because he could have easily just took the elevator, and activated the crucible himself and used the Reapers to destroy all the races but Human Kind....

"He could never control us because we control him"

My point exactly, so if he couldn't control them, they would RATHER HIM TRY!

TIM WANTED THIS, HE WANTED CONTROL, SO IF ALL WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WAS HE FOUND OUT HE COULDNT CONTROL THEM

REAPERS FOR THE BIGGGGGGGGGGGGG ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS WINNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Why would they MAKE SHEPARD control them, when they had somebody indoctrinated already who couldn't used the crucible?

Don't make sense for them to indoctrinate somebody who could use the crucible.....or the fact sense you guys think Shepard was CONTROL, that means him and TIM were under the same situation?

See you guys fail so much at this simple point.

What I am saying kills the indoctrination theory.

But Shepard actually never made it to the control room....
The illusive you saw is part of shepard's hallucination
there is no godchild, just harbinger trying to indoctrinate shepard
Shepard is still on Earth according to the indoctrination theory 
I hate people who argue agaisnt something that they haven't even researched

There is no decision chamber, Shepard never made it to the beam.
This is all in his mind!
He is knocked out on Earth after getting hit by a godamn laser to the face.
Why would the Reapers want to indoctrinate Shepard instead of killing him?
Because he is a symbol of hope, and if you squatch hope everything else just falls apart.

Modifié par cavs25, 27 novembre 2012 - 07:58 .

[dorktainian]

EXMEFan wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

EXMEFan wrote...

The game played the Indoctrination card with The Illusive man, he was at his breaking point, he was visually at his breaking point.....you help the Illusive Man break his indoctrination, because he could have easily just took the elevator, and activated the crucible himself and used the Reapers to destroy all the races but Human Kind....

Would the Reapers rather have The Illusive Man, who is easy to manipulate, than Shepard?

See, you guys Theory fails....

Reapers would have wanted the Illusive Man, not Shepard

 No Because TIM would have enslaved them given the chance.  They want Shepard because they want a hero of humanity to fall.  To betray his people.  Remember the indoctrination codex about how if indoctrination takes hold of a leader the effects can be devastating?  TIM is insignificant to the reapers because he does not represent humanity.  Shepard does.

Then why was The Illusive Man indoctrinated in the first place? Why was he still being indoctrinated and lead to go up to the crucible until the moment Shepard showed up?

See how you don't make sense at all?  THEY INDOCTRINATED HIM! HE WAS ACTIVELY INDOCTRINATED and broke out of it with the help of Shepard,   IF they didnt want The Illusive Man they would have never indoctrinated him....plain and simple.

Lmfao you guys do not make sense.  And the Illusive Man LOVED humanity, but he HATES all the other races.  He would do anything it takes.

He was just like Saren, if they thought Saren was perfect, then certainly they would have loved to have the Illusive Man, in which they did, that was the whole reason of him turning on Shepard.

The indoctrination card was played on the Illusive Man, the big reveal was that TIM was indoctrinated, thats why he was acting differently than he was in Mass Effect 2.

They knew by dividing up humanity, they could win Earth.

You guy do not understand the story at all.

oh dear god.  thats not my theory at all but hey ho never mind.  there is no story.  it doesnt make any sense because TIM is not there.  Anderson is not there.  Shepard is not there.  It's an illusion.  It's Harbinger. It's a lie.  It's all a lie.  Indoctrination.  the 3 people on the citadel are ALL representations of Shepard.  Tim (control) Anderson (destroy) trying to push Shepard into synthesis (indoctrination).  /facepalm #indoctrinationFTW

[RavenEyry]

EXMEFan wrote...

If somebody who was control can't control the Reapers, then how could Shepard choose control the Reapers if he was indoctrinated and was controlled like The Illusive MAn?

...Because Shepard doesn't control them. Please read the fifth word of the thread title.

[EXMEFan]

RavenEyry wrote...

If they didn't want Shepard to use the crucible, why bring them up to the control area?

Because they don't control what happens in the crucible......it was a device made by all the civilizations and it worked....simple as that. The other times they stopped it from being built...

Reapers gain nothing from the crucible being used.  Only ace in the hole they had was that Illusive Man could have stopped Shepard or at least divided humanity long enough for them to destroy Earth.  And or Illusive Man tries to use the crucible and can't because he was already under their control.  

They did not need Shepard because they already indoctrinated the Illusive Man

Illusive Man being indoctrinated was the BIG Indoctrination reveal

they already played that card.

[CoolioThane]

Bloody hell. You know that Shepard is special. The Reapers have been trying to get him alive for yonks. Why not kill Shep when she was unconscious during Arrival? Jeez