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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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RavenEyry

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

It says in the DLC page.
http://blog.bioware....-u-information/

:pinched:So it does. That's what I get for skimming. I should shut up now before I dig myself deeper.

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Cooliothane if it's the Citadel tower, and the control panel to the Citadel is only on there, then it points out that the control panel at the end is hagwash.

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CoolioThane wrote...

I'll make a £20 bet with a literalist that IT is true. If it turns out not to be I will donate the money to a charity of their choice :)

Not a half bad idea, but you both might have to wait a while...

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TSA_383 wrote...

I'm ill to a totally not-funny extent ¬_¬ feel sort of like someone filled my head with hot tar as I slept...

Anyway, let me bring you this gem of a tweet from Gamble:
https://twitter.com/...150083834097664

Thoughts, anyone?


Hm...

So if it's visitable more than once, it cannot be at the end. But that would extend the Citadel as a hub, but then he doesn't want to say more and puts his speculation smilie there.

That man knows his job and how to make customers curious.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 05 août 2012 - 06:37 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Cooliothane if it's the Citadel tower, and the control panel to the Citadel is only on there, then it points out that the control panel at the end is hagwash.

Good idea. No one knows why the citadel tower is technically in game but not accessible.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

I'm ill to a totally not-funny extent ¬_¬ feel sort of like someone filled my head with hot tar as I slept...

Anyway, let me bring you this gem of a tweet from Gamble:
https://twitter.com/...150083834097664

Thoughts, anyone?


Hm...

So if it's visitable more than once, it cannot be at the end. But that would extend the Citadel as a hub, but then he doesn't want to say more and puts his speculation smilie there.

That man knows his job and how to make customers curious.

Why couldn't it be at the end?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

I'm ill to a totally not-funny extent ¬_¬ feel sort of like someone filled my head with hot tar as I slept...

Anyway, let me bring you this gem of a tweet from Gamble:
https://twitter.com/...150083834097664

Thoughts, anyone?

I think it sounds like he's referencing the ending.


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That's what got me curious...
I mean, I can't see when else we'd need new citadel areas for the leviathan plot, and citadel material has been totally absent from the marketing material for the DLC, unless I'm missing something.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

I'm ill to a totally not-funny extent ¬_¬ feel sort of like someone filled my head with hot tar as I slept...

Anyway, let me bring you this gem of a tweet from Gamble:
https://twitter.com/...150083834097664

Thoughts, anyone?


Hm...

So if it's visitable more than once, it cannot be at the end. But that would extend the Citadel as a hub, but then he doesn't want to say more and puts his speculation smilie there.

That man knows his job and how to make customers curious.

Why couldn't it be at the end?


The way the ending is now, (during one playthrough) you can't visit the levels in "Citadel: The Return" more than once. To make it at the end AND visitable more than once would have to expand on the ending = post-ending. But that is (supposedly) not where 'Leviathan' is set.

Except...

That dialog extension with the Catalyst is set somewhere special...and is not 'just' dialog...HMMM

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 05 août 2012 - 06:45 .


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Speaking of the endings, and the ciradel

leonia42 wrote...

Right, but do you really think Bioware has designed the end-game to be replayed so many times? If they added new sequences altogether that'd be something, maybe new combat sections added each time but a few dialogue changes here or there doesn't seem like much.

So basically I've been wondering for a while about something? It seems to me BW really wants us to replay the ending (EC, Leviathan changing them etc.). Why? I think the most likely option is they want us to play it so many times we don't fall for their trap. To see with each new DLC that it doesn't make any sense. To pick up on the fact that it seems so surreal. What do you think?

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The main arc of leviathan may not be ;)

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MaximizedAction wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Why couldn't it be at the end?


The way the ending is now, (during one playthrough) you can't visit the levels in "Citadel: The Return" more than once. To make it at the end AND visitable more than once would have to expand on the ending = post-ending. But that is (supposedly) not where 'Leviathan' is set.

Except...

That dialog extension with the Catalyst is set somewhere special...and is not 'just' dialog...HMMM

Maybe the areas are visitable before the end.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 05 août 2012 - 06:46 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Speaking of the endings, and the ciradel

leonia42 wrote...

Right, but do you really think Bioware has designed the end-game to be replayed so many times? If they added new sequences altogether that'd be something, maybe new combat sections added each time but a few dialogue changes here or there doesn't seem like much.

So basically I've been wondering for a while about something? It seems to me BW really wants us to replay the ending (EC, Leviathan changing them etc.). Why? I think the most likely option is they want us to play it so many times we don't fall for their trap. To see with each new DLC that it doesn't make any sense. To pick up on the fact that it seems so surreal. What do you think?


That seems harsh to me for those who can't afford buying every DLC...like me :whistle:. But then again, I don't need to have the DLC to find out about the content.

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CoolioThane wrote...

I'll make a £20 bet with a literalist that IT is true. If it turns out not to be I will donate the money to a charity of their choice :)

Thats about how much I payed for Mass Effect 3 at my place. O.O

Modifié par pirate1802, 05 août 2012 - 06:48 .


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Banshee you also have to remember the first thing Gamble asked the fans was the Destroy ending, and he sounded like, um do you get the hint of what we were trying to show you.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I hope you are right Banshee, but if the bugets are about to get cut, then they will either revel IT, or keep the endings as they are. Oh and Estebanus did Chris pm you?

Why Estebanus bothered PMing Chris I will never know...

Copyright infringement, perhaps?

Anyway, I've already started writing a script for how it could turn out. Will be finished within the next 2 wekks, I imagine.

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masster blaster wrote...

Banshee you also have to remember the first thing Gamble asked the fans was the Destroy ending, and he sounded like, um do you get the hint of what we were trying to show you.

Hmm don't remember that. Can you link it?

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masster blaster wrote...

Banshee you also have to remember the first thing Gamble asked the fans was the Destroy ending, and he sounded like, um do you get the hint of what we were trying to show you.


Ah, the name plate!

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masster blaster wrote...

Thane I meant for SP/the possible override of the endings.


I still don't get what this would accomplish. There are plenty of fan-fics that do just that.

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I hope you are right Banshee, but if the bugets are about to get cut, then they will either revel IT, or keep the endings as they are. Oh and Estebanus did Chris pm you?

Why Estebanus bothered PMing Chris I will never know...

Copyright infringement, perhaps?

Anyway, I've already started writing a script for how it could turn out. Will be finished within the next 2 wekks, I imagine.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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That's a lot of fish smilies.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I hope you are right Banshee, but if the bugets are about to get cut, then they will either revel IT, or keep the endings as they are. Oh and Estebanus did Chris pm you?

Why Estebanus bothered PMing Chris I will never know...

Copyright infringement, perhaps?

Anyway, I've already started writing a script for how it could turn out. Will be finished within the next 2 wekks, I imagine.

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? What is it?

Modifié par estebanus, 05 août 2012 - 06:52 .


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It adds one tiny wardrobe, with a mailslot inside, to the Citadel. You have to do 20 scan-and-fetch-quests in a row, returning each time to deposit the retreived item, before you get the next planet to scan. Once you're done, the door is locked for the rest of the game. ;P

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masster blaster wrote...

So I guess everyone wanted Zaeed back, well I did to. Zaeed my not be a major character, but he is funny as hell. And he is a bad ***. I need more people like Zaeed.

Any way I am at Ihop right now, so I will get back to this in a bit.

Yes my wallfes are here. Time to eat.


wasted potential.wmv lol

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Speaking of the endings, and the ciradel

leonia42 wrote...

Right, but do you really think Bioware has designed the end-game to be replayed so many times? If they added new sequences altogether that'd be something, maybe new combat sections added each time but a few dialogue changes here or there doesn't seem like much.

So basically I've been wondering for a while about something? It seems to me BW really wants us to replay the ending (EC, Leviathan changing them etc.). Why? I think the most likely option is they want us to play it so many times we don't fall for their trap. To see with each new DLC that it doesn't make any sense. To pick up on the fact that it seems so surreal. What do you think?

I've suspected this since i first learned about indoctrination theory. It's like how re-reading a book several times allows you to pick up on underlying themes and and connections you weren't aware of the first time. And, it's not that farfetched when you consider how many different possibilities there are via paragon/renegade actions, LI routes, etc. There was even that one message that occasionally showed during loading screens in Me2 encouraging you to start new playthroughs.

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I hope you are right Banshee, but if the bugets are about to get cut, then they will either revel IT, or keep the endings as they are. Oh and Estebanus did Chris pm you?

Why Estebanus bothered PMing Chris I will never know...

Copyright infringement, perhaps?

Anyway, I've already started writing a script for how it could turn out. Will be finished within the next 2 wekks, I imagine.

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? What is it?

You made me happy so I used all of the happy-face smilies. Also, for lulz because I have never seen so many at once. Posted Image 






Pie.