gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
Probably cos there's a war on.BleedingUranium wrote...
Just eezo, and the only reason it's interesting is because they seemed very intent of getting the eezo as fast as possible, ruining the long term use of the mine in the process.
A war with Reapers mind you, might not be anything left of Cerberus to use Eezo in a month for all they knew.
BleedingUranium wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Complete bs. There are at least 3 strong motives named why they took Omega.401 Kill wrote...
Maybe Omega didn't have didn't have the "Cerberus motives" reveal,
Just eezo, and the only reason it's interesting is because they seemed very intent of getting the eezo as fast as possible, ruining the long term use of the mine in the process.
That would be the worst incidence of long term planning since the treaty of versailles.gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
Hm, possible that reason was to keep the IT crowd happy regardless of Indoctrination viability in future releases....
MegumiAzusa wrote...
No, it showed that they can control the 3rd generation Adjutants and they infected no one. It's even commented on.Andromidius wrote...
CoolioThane wrote...
Which is exactly what Destroy is. By George I think you've cracked it! WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN
Possibly.
Cerberus' attempts at Control proved to be in vain.
The Adjutant's infecting others against their will and homogenising them is eerily similar to Synthesis.
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Complete bs. There are at least 3 strong motives named why they took Omega.401 Kill wrote...
Maybe Omega didn't have didn't have the "Cerberus motives" reveal,
Just eezo, and the only reason it's interesting is because they seemed very intent of getting the eezo as fast as possible, ruining the long term use of the mine in the process.
There was also the fact taht it allowed them free movement through the Terminus systems. And I am sure ecovering what was left of the Collector base had nothing to do with it, I mean it is not like they were conducting experiments with Reaper tech...wait. Also regarding that notice how they kept the entire non-human population pacified on Omega? What do you think would have happened to that population once the Adjutant project was properly completed?
Omega has a population of 7.8 million. That is alot of Cerberus Troops (the Human population) and a few million Adjutants ripe for the taking.
At least taht is the impression I got from Petroysky and the expirement logs on the Adjutants.
I think the reason many are underwhelmed is everyone had guessed these motives already and were hoping for something more surprising.Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
There was also the fact taht it allowed them free movement through the Terminus systems. And I am sure ecovering what was left of the Collector base had nothing to do with it, I mean it is not like they were conducting experiments with Reaper tech...wait. Also regarding that notice how they kept the entire non-human population pacified on Omega? What do you think would have happened to that population once the Adjutant project was properly completed?
Omega has a population of 7.8 million. That is alot of Cerberus Troops (the Human population) and a few million Adjutants ripe for the taking.
At least taht is the impression I got from Petroysky and the expirement logs on the Adjutants.
Something like that.BleedingUranium wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
In the beginning, we see the reaper child in the garden, with the fake normandy, this is all part of an illusion created by the reapers in our interpretation. This has a certain impact on the ending, given that the post-ending thing sees the normandy on a planet surrounded by that same foliage from the illusion. Here, the normandy will either escape the world of the illusion, signifying Shepard's own escape from the illusion, or it will be trapped, signifying that Shepard does not have the strength to overcome the illusion.
Thoughts?
So maybe:
-No one exits the Normady = Shepard dies
-Normandy needs repairs = Shepard not dead, but will need help to escape the dream world
-Normandy flys away = Shepard escapes the dream world on his own
-Breath scene = Shepard is still Shepard
RavenEyry wrote...
That would be the worst incidence of long term planning since the treaty of versailles.gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
Hm, possible that reason was to keep the IT crowd happy regardless of Indoctrination viability in future releases....
MegumiAzusa wrote...
No, it showed that they can control the 3rd generation Adjutants and they infected no one. It's even commented on.Andromidius wrote...
CoolioThane wrote...
Which is exactly what Destroy is. By George I think you've cracked it! WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN
Possibly.
Cerberus' attempts at Control proved to be in vain.
The Adjutant's infecting others against their will and homogenising them is eerily similar to Synthesis.
Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:01 .
RavenEyry wrote...
That would be the worst incidence of long term planning since the treaty of versailles.gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
Hm, possible that reason was to keep the IT crowd happy regardless of Indoctrination viability in future releases....
RavenEyry wrote...
I think the reason many are underwhelmed is everyone had guessed these motives already and were hoping for something more surprising.Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
There was also the fact taht it allowed them free movement through the Terminus systems. And I am sure ecovering what was left of the Collector base had nothing to do with it, I mean it is not like they were conducting experiments with Reaper tech...wait. Also regarding that notice how they kept the entire non-human population pacified on Omega? What do you think would have happened to that population once the Adjutant project was properly completed?
Omega has a population of 7.8 million. That is alot of Cerberus Troops (the Human population) and a few million Adjutants ripe for the taking.
At least taht is the impression I got from Petroysky and the expirement logs on the Adjutants.
BleedingUranium wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
That would be the worst incidence of long term planning since the treaty of versailles.gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
Hm, possible that reason was to keep the IT crowd happy regardless of Indoctrination viability in future releases....
Makes revised ending to provide clarity. No part of the Indoctrination Theory is affected by the changes.
Totally an oversight, not on purpose at all.
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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
That would be the worst incidence of long term planning since the treaty of versailles.gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
Hm, possible that reason was to keep the IT crowd happy regardless of Indoctrination viability in future releases....
Makes revised ending to provide clarity. No part of the Indoctrination Theory is affected by the changes.
Totally an oversight, not on purpose at all.
I'm just saying! Maybe. I like being prepared for all routes of dissapointment when possible
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Complete bs. There are at least 3 strong motives named why they took Omega.401 Kill wrote...
Maybe Omega didn't have didn't have the "Cerberus motives" reveal,
Wow, how about reading my post instead of raging? Eezo is 1 of 3 points, not all of them. And Omega just has more as Adjutant farms, and is unorganized. It is luck the Talons had the change in leadership.Rifneno wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Complete bs. There are at least 3 strong motives named why they took Omega.401 Kill wrote...
Maybe Omega didn't have didn't have the "Cerberus motives" reveal,
There's a reason only you think that. Because the rest of us put some thought into it. Taking over Omega for the eezo is lol. Unless there's something secret they're doing that they suddenly need all of the eezo ever, like they're making their own mass relay, then there's a hell of a lot of easier ways to get it than putting a station of 8 million anarchists under siege. Do you even understand that? How goddamn big of a deal that is? Omega's population is about that of New York City. And these people aren't famous for being rude, they're famous for being heavily armed, short tempered sociopaths who only agree on is "**** governments." Do you think taking Omega was a petty act over something as mundane as readily available resources like eezo? Like there's not countless colonies out there with very little defenses that Cerberus could use for adjutant farms? That's ridiculous. Even for you.
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:18 .
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Wow, how about reading my post instead of raging? Eezo is 1 of 3 points, not all of them.Rifneno wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Complete bs. There are at least 3 strong motives named why they took Omega.401 Kill wrote...
Maybe Omega didn't have didn't have the "Cerberus motives" reveal,
There's a reason only you think that. Because the rest of us put some thought into it. Taking over Omega for the eezo is lol. Unless there's something secret they're doing that they suddenly need all of the eezo ever, like they're making their own mass relay, then there's a hell of a lot of easier ways to get it than putting a station of 8 million anarchists under siege. Do you even understand that? How goddamn big of a deal that is? Omega's population is about that of New York City. And these people aren't famous for being rude, they're famous for being heavily armed, short tempered sociopaths who only agree on is "**** governments." Do you think taking Omega was a petty act over something as mundane as readily available resources like eezo? Like there's not countless colonies out there with very little defenses that Cerberus could use for adjutant farms? That's ridiculous. Even for you.
I addressed the farm in the edit.BleedingUranium wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Wow, how about reading my post instead of raging? Eezo is 1 of 3 points, not all of them.Rifneno wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Complete bs. There are at least 3 strong motives named why they took Omega.401 Kill wrote...
Maybe Omega didn't have didn't have the "Cerberus motives" reveal,
There's a reason only you think that. Because the rest of us put some thought into it. Taking over Omega for the eezo is lol. Unless there's something secret they're doing that they suddenly need all of the eezo ever, like they're making their own mass relay, then there's a hell of a lot of easier ways to get it than putting a station of 8 million anarchists under siege. Do you even understand that? How goddamn big of a deal that is? Omega's population is about that of New York City. And these people aren't famous for being rude, they're famous for being heavily armed, short tempered sociopaths who only agree on is "**** governments." Do you think taking Omega was a petty act over something as mundane as readily available resources like eezo? Like there's not countless colonies out there with very little defenses that Cerberus could use for adjutant farms? That's ridiculous. Even for you.
He addressed Adjutant making, there would be way easier places to do that too. As for a base in the Terminus? This is Cerberus, they could build a secret base or space station pretty much anywhere. And they do.
Modifié par paxxton, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:31 .
MegumiAzusa wrote...
I addressed the farm in the edit.
Getting Omega does at least 4 things in one. Also with Aria on it's head Omega is about the only thing that could have challenged Cerberus, and maybe even tried blocked the Omega-4 Relay if they were that aggressive.
RavenEyry wrote...
Wasn't control referred to as 'becoming a reaper' at some stage in development too?
Modifié par BleedingUranium, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:36 .
Which would have stopped if she felt threatened. Aria likes money, but she isn't stupid.BleedingUranium wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
I addressed the farm in the edit.
Getting Omega does at least 4 things in one. Also with Aria on it's head Omega is about the only thing that could have challenged Cerberus, and maybe even tried blocked the Omega-4 Relay if they were that aggressive.
They lack motive there. Aria was letting Cerberus do what they wanted with the Omega-4 so long as they paid her.
BleedingUranium wrote...
I originally came up with this a week ago, but I'm posting it again with some Omega stuff.
I've solved the puzzle.
I mentioned a before that my theory is each Reaper, though its brain is made from millions of melted people, only has one consciousness, one mind. The Reapers only make one new Reaper per cycle, why? Because each Reaper's mind is taken from the best that cycle has to offer. At one point in the leaked script a Reaper said "We are all Shepards".
Why do you think they were interested in Saren, but as soon as Shepard proved he was better, they went after Shepard? They want the best. Why did they fail to make a Prothean Reaper? They couldn't capture Javik; the Shepard of his cycle.
Remember Shepard's line to TIM when debating saving the Collector base? "Next thing I know, you'll want to grow your own Reaper". That's exactly what he's doing! That's his grand plan in ME3! And what does a Reaper need? Three things: A whole lot of eezo for its core, millions of people melted into goo to form the brain, and a singular consciousness to form the mind. Cerberus has both.
Cerberus's only true goal on Omega seems to be mining vast amounts of eezo very quickly, with emphasis on the quickly. The rest of what they were dong they could've done somewhere else far more easily. Eezo core? Check.
Remember in Sanctuary, anyone not useful in experiments or as troops was liquified, and now we know why! Organic material? Check.
"Humanity needs your mind, and they need it intact". We never did have an explaination as to what that TIM did to himself, much less to this line. Now we do. Singular consciousness? Check.
This also gives a better reason for dream-TIM from a writing standpoint. We've already discussed how having a goodbye with dream-Anderson opens up the possibility of him being indoctrinated or killed, but this does the same for TIM, as next time we see him, he won't be TIM anymore...
These are also listed in order of least to most important, story telling-wise; it has proper build up. While you can do Omega after Sanctuary, that's a terrible idea from a plot and story telling perspective.
Modifié par DaveTheRave05, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:49 .
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