Ce sujet est ferméI see. Was it... juicy?BansheeOwnage wrote...
Hey Estebanus! You know what I had for dinner last night?estebanus wrote...
Hi Banshee!
Shepard's pie!
Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:50
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:50
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Krimzie wrote...
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Don't freak out, but I wanted to share this.
twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/273657497754161153
That is all.
Oh, absolutely. Did it even need saying?
Sometimes, when some of the community thinks other members of said community are "reaching" or "grasping at straws," I don't think they are giving proper benefit of the doubt. Writers are, well, writers. They write, they critique, they rewrite, they craft themes -- and at the end of the day, they put thought into every line. So I can't help but think that lines like "so be it" and "wake up" and "nightmare" and "whispers" and parallels to predictability/naivete as a means of manipulation, and parallels to ruthless calculus of war, or the not-so-subtle use of the chess board with an AI enemy, are absolutely intentional.
But again, this isn't always about proving a theory... it's about crafting themes and weaving them through a story, even post-release. At some point, you land on regenerative language that is so much more than literal -- like Aria's "How things begin isn't nearly as important as how they end," for example. It's a literal statement on the new partnership of Shep and Aria, but it's also a meta/tongue-in-cheek remark, and thematically resonant.
Bah. I don't want to come off as a blind worshipper, but there comes a point when I have to shout it from the rooftops that game companies HIRE WRITERS specifically for WRITING now, and it wasn't always that way in games. This kind of digging and unpacking of the story that we fans do now is not crazy or conspiratorial -- it's as relevant and acceptable as the Hamlet thesis I'm writing (read as: not writing, because I'm derping on BSN) right now.
You said it very well here. It's actually why I want to get into video game writing - depending on the company.
#53878
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:51
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If there's one constant in this thread it's estebanus and Banshee's obsession with pie :L
#53879
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:52
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Random question: Why are so many Mass Effect fans self-proclaimed writers themselves? What's up with everyone here on this board wanting to write a story?
Just something I was wondering.
Just something I was wondering.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:53
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The pie thing scares and confuses me.
#53881
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:53
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Some things never change, no matter what happensCoolioThane wrote...
If there's one constant in this thread it's estebanus and Banshee's obsession with pie :L
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:53
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BleedingUranium wrote...
Anyone find it odd Cerberus was very intent on mining the eezo? I don't mean that they needed eezo, because any military would, but Aria made several comments about running the machines to hot, that they were straining them, and that they're wreck the whole thing in a short amount of time. Since we know that TIM loves long, slow, patient, plans, why would Cerberus be so hell bent on having lots of eezo very quickly?
Same reason they're liquefying lots of people at Sanctuary: They're building a Reaper.
Well DUH
If IT is right and TIM isn't really in the Citadel, I anticipate a hell of a final entrance to the scene by Cerberus, at some point.
"Cerberus is an idea." = "I don't care if everyone in Cerberus dies as long as I can dominate the galaxy with a super-Mega Reaper"
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:54
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It's more that the writers of the community don't believe the BW writers could make such stupid and obvious writing mistakes. That's all.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Random question: Why are so many Mass Effect fans self-proclaimed writers themselves? What's up with everyone here on this board wanting to write a story?
Just something I was wondering.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:54
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What's wrong with pie? How can you not enjoy a slice of that juicy, salacious god's gift to earth?RavenEyry wrote...
The pie thing scares and confuses me.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:54
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Juicy enough.estebanus wrote...
I see. Was it... juicy?BansheeOwnage wrote...
Hey Estebanus! You know what I had for dinner last night?estebanus wrote...
Hi Banshee!
Shepard's pie!
#53886
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:56
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I don't like gravy.estebanus wrote...
What's wrong with pie? How can you not enjoy a slice of that juicy, salacious god's gift to earth?RavenEyry wrote...
The pie thing scares and confuses me.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:57
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Exactly. It can be so juicy and decadent!estebanus wrote...
What's wrong with pie? How can you not enjoy a slice of that juicy, salacious god's gift to earth?RavenEyry wrote...
The pie thing scares and confuses me.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:57
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BansheeOwnage wrote...
It's more that the writers of the community don't believe the BW writers could make such stupid and obvious writing mistakes. That's all.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Random question: Why are so many Mass Effect fans self-proclaimed writers themselves? What's up with everyone here on this board wanting to write a story?
Just something I was wondering.
I would agree with this.
I'm not a writer per se (I read geography (WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY) at uni despite being a geologist at heart) but I do like to write stuff. I think being empathatic is why I believe in the IT. I put myself in their shoes and think "writers write, these writers have backgrounds in psychology etc." I think this makes more sense in a logical way I guess...
RAMBLE RAMBLE RAMBLE sorry
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:57
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RavenEyry wrote...
The pie thing scares and confuses me.
http://www.urbandict...ne.php?term=pie
I'm gonna go ahead and guess #6.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:58
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To each their own I guess. Personally, I love gavy, but you don't have to have gravy everytime you eat pie!RavenEyry wrote...
I don't like gravy.estebanus wrote...
What's wrong with pie? How can you not enjoy a slice of that juicy, salacious god's gift to earth?RavenEyry wrote...
The pie thing scares and confuses me.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:58
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SwobyJ wrote...
You said it very well here. It's actually why I want to get into video game writing - depending on the company.
Thanks! You and me both! I don't know how close you are to career-pursuit, but if you're ever interested in portfolio building and tossing around ideas or workshopping or collaborating for text-based adventure stories or scripts, or have any relevant reading to suggest (I am recently obssesed with game studies), let me know!
And that goes for anyone else in this thread, too. I'd imagine in such an analytical community, there has to be a handful of writers!
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 07:58
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RavenEyry wrote...
I don't like gravy.estebanus wrote...
What's wrong with pie? How can you not enjoy a slice of that juicy, salacious god's gift to earth?RavenEyry wrote...
The pie thing scares and confuses me.
Then gtfo
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 08:01
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Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Random question: Why are so many Mass Effect fans self-proclaimed writers themselves? What's up with everyone here on this board wanting to write a story?
Just something I was wondering.
Most people who enjoy unpacking stories are writers, and most people on the ME boards like unpacking stories.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a few months away from an English and creative writing degree and I'm planning on going to grad school for alternate media narrative study. But regardless, everyone who wants to write should write, if not for publication then for fun.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 08:02
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In Britain they come with gravy by default (or an icky white sauce I call cravy for convenience). The pastry can be rather nice admittedly.BansheeOwnage wrote...
To each their own I guess. Personally, I love gavy, but you don't have to have gravy everytime you eat pie!
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 08:02
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BansheeOwnage wrote...
It's more that the writers of the community don't believe the BW writers could make such stupid and obvious writing mistakes. That's all.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Random question: Why are so many Mass Effect fans self-proclaimed writers themselves? What's up with everyone here on this board wanting to write a story?
Just something I was wondering.
That's not an answer to my question. My question was: Why are so many people on this board self-proclaimed writers? What's up with that?
But to reply to what you said: Any proffesional writer or even pseudo-proffesional writer here on this board should realize how terrible ME3 is written. And not just the ending.
Last semester I took some writing classes myself on my college. I'm not a writer though, I'm a 3D artist, I was just interested in learning a bit about writing. I learned a lot of basics about writing. Lots of theory. I quickly noticed how ME3 defies pretty much everything I've learned that semester. That alone shows how amateuristic the ME3 writing is.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 08:03
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Yeah, there are a lot. I write well, but I'm not great at the creative part. It always ends up being "borrowed" material - or is it called inspiration? I can't remember.Krimzie wrote...
SwobyJ wrote...
You said it very well here. It's actually why I want to get into video game writing - depending on the company.
Thanks! You and me both! I don't know how close you are to career-pursuit, but if you're ever interested in portfolio building and tossing around ideas or workshopping or collaborating for text-based adventure stories or scripts, or have any relevant reading to suggest (I am recently obssesed with game studies), let me know!
And that goes for anyone else in this thread, too. I'd imagine in such an analytical community, there has to be a handful of writers!
Anyway, I read what you wrote last night but I wasn't sighed in. Loved it though!
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 08:03
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Heretic_Hanar wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
In the beginning, we see the reaper child in the garden, with the fake normandy, this is all part of an illusion created by the reapers in our interpretation. This has a certain impact on the ending, given that the post-ending thing sees the normandy on a planet surrounded by that same foliage from the illusion. Here, the normandy will either escape the world of the illusion, signifying Shepard's own escape from the illusion, or it will be trapped, signifying that Shepard does not have the strength to overcome the illusion.
Thoughts?
If your theory would be correct than Shepard can escape the illusion regardless of which ending he chooses. Only a low EMS results in a stranded Normandy that doesn't fly away at the end of the epilogue.
Late response sorry.
I do have the thought that in any High-EMS ending, Shepard wakes up in some way, and the Breath scene is more of an Easter Egg.
But with high-EMS Control or Synthesis... you're MUCH more touched by indoctrination, whereas Destroy you're more where you were at before (struggling, fighting) and can finish the fight with your fighting will intact.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 08:05
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How can one not like gravy? I consume loads of it at each thanksgiving!BansheeOwnage wrote...
To each their own I guess. Personally, I love gavy, but you don't have to have gravy everytime you eat pie!RavenEyry wrote...
I don't like gravy.estebanus wrote...
What's wrong with pie? How can you not enjoy a slice of that juicy, salacious god's gift to earth?RavenEyry wrote...
The pie thing scares and confuses me.
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 08:05
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Heretic_Hanar wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
It's more that the writers of the community don't believe the BW writers could make such stupid and obvious writing mistakes. That's all.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Random question: Why are so many Mass Effect fans self-proclaimed writers themselves? What's up with everyone here on this board wanting to write a story?
Just something I was wondering.
That's not an answer to my question. My question was: Why are so many people on this board self-proclaimed writers? What's up with that?
But to reply to what you said: Any proffesional writer or even pseudo-proffesional writer here on this board should realize how terrible ME3 is written. And not just the ending.
Last semester I took some writing classes myself on my college. I'm not a writer though, I'm a 3D artist, I was just interested in learning a bit about writing. I learned a lot of basics about writing. Lots of theory. I quickly noticed how ME3 defies pretty much everything I've learned that semester. That alone shows how amateuristic the ME3 writing is.
Well, if you say that an entry level community college "professor" has different ideas, then who are we to argue?
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Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 08:05
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I don't like gravy. I'm a vegetarian.
