ElSuperGecko wrote...
So basically you're saying that you think that personal opinion is preferable/superior to group debate?
No, I'm saying that opinion is all we have. It's your opinion versus mine. We debate in order to enhance our view on things and eventually adjust your opinions on newly reached conclusions. That's basically all there is to debates about fiction. I mean what else is there to it? We're talking about fiction here. There are no hardcore facts when it comes to fiction, especially not when "it is just an illusion, it isn't real" is considered to be a valid intepretation of the fiction at hand.
That's your opinion. I disagree. Care to provide some clear examples so I can prove your opinion wrong?
I made a big gigantic list a few posts ago. It was in fact a reply to you. You handwaved it away as "just your opinion man" and moved on. Have you already forgotten?
Also, "proving opinions wrong" is an oxymoron. An opinion is subjective and therefore can't be wrong. So as long as you keep hammering down my points as "just your opinion" then how do you want to prove my points wrong? Theyre just opinions after all, you said so yourself.
Oh sure, of course it's just an opinion. Just like saying that The Room is a terrible terrible TERRIBLE movie is just an opinion.
I wouldn't presume to know, I've never seen it.
That's why I added a link to a fragment of the movie to give you an idea. Watch that fragment, else you won't understand the point I'm trying to make.
You appear to be confusing pesonal opinion with the general consensus. It's certainly my opinion that there's much more good about the Mass Effect series than bad - but I'm far from alone in that opinion. The Mass Effect series is a critical and commercial success. The overwhelming majority of the people I've spoken to who have played it, loved it. That isn't opinion, that's FACT.
And the majority of people I have spoken to who have played ME3 said is sucked balls and didn't live up to the first 2 parts of the series. That's not an opinion, that's a FACT.
Give me evidence that your opinions are shared by the majority.
Just look at the BSN, especially a few months back. That in itself is evidence that a lot of the complaints I make are shared by a lot of other people. There won't be much rage about it anymore right now, but everyone who was on the BSN 8 months ago can vouch for me. A lot of people had complaints, and most of them were very valid complaints.
I disagree. There is plenty of established lore within the Mass Effect universe that is available as a foundation for discussion.
Which is worth nothing if a certain group just handwaves away all the pieces of lore and story as "lol just an illusion" or "just indoctrination" that doesn't fit their fancy.
When you're going out to say "you can't use this, this and that part of the lore against our theory because we have dismissed those parts as illusions" than how much worth is this "established" lore and how can they ever be the foundation of a discussion? Being selective like that is just dishonored to me and yourself in my opinion.
In fact, that's exactly what the IT is based on - the discussion and interpretation of the various endings using the empirical evidence as presented within the game itself. Opinions play a part, certainly, but that's not all there is to it.
LMAO! Empirical evidence? That's a good one!
Seriously, how do you even dare to say that. The IT is not based on "empirical evidence" as presented within the game, it's rather the other way around; you try to fit the "empirical evidence" as presented within the game into your little theory.
Does Part X, Y and Z not add up with the theory? Oh, no biggie, it probably means they're just illusions!
That's how the IT works. It's completely backwards. Instead of scrutinizing your theory, you simply try to twist and fit everything presented in the games in such a way that it works with your pre-established theory. It actually reminds me of the pseudo-scientific 'Intelligent Design' theory, which is not a valid or official scientific theory for that very reason.
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Yes, the ID is indeed nothing more than creationism in disguise.
