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Humakt83 wrote...

byne wrote...
Come on, I dont care for anime either, but insulting him for liking it is a bit much.


Fine. I apologize for my harsh words. Just wish he'd post less often now when he switched the avatar.


Why, because you hate seeing my avatar, because you hate me, or because you hate my posts? \\\\
Or all 3 of them? :P


No need ot apologize though. I'm not easily offended.

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Seriously though, was it really necessary to remodel the Vorcha? Also bug eye glitch on all the krogan? Harrot chin??

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Harrot chin??


Did they change Harrot's model?

I was too busy being mad that he didnt have a cigar to notice.

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Seriously though, was it really necessary to remodel the Vorcha? Also bug eye glitch on all the krogan? Harrot chin??

They remodeled the Vorcha? They still look like a mashup of space roaches, this guy and goblins.
Did anyone else really like the scene of that Vorcha getting fried in the force field?

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Ok, guys, going to take this in a different direction. Have something that might interest you all.

Since the summer of this year, I've been playing through the Mass Effect games with my mum. She saw me playing it once and thought it was interesting, so I proposed we play through it and see if she would enjoy it. This also let me write up on my argument about gaming being an art form on the same level as film or music, which so far is pretty intriguing. Think of it like an experiment.

My mum has never been a gamer. In her own words, the last thing she shot at 'was a Space Invader in 1977 in a pub on Fleet Street.' Yet she agreed to play Mass Effect with me to see if she would enjoy it. Because the aspect of playing a game so intricate like ME, I play the game whilst she directs me. Choosing dialog options, making the major choices in the game, where to go and what to do. So far, she's loving it. She loves the story, the characters, the mythology, everything about it.

We finished Mass Effect September time and she was eager to play Mass Effect 2. I didn't expect her to take to it so well, but hey, I like surprises. And I got a big one today.

So, we've just finished Horizon, Ashley refused to join the team (which she found extremely annoying), and we were about to go get Tali when Admiral Hackett called and told her about an imminent Reaper invasion. She realized how big of a deal this was, so we started the Arrival DLC. She found it a massive departure from the regular Mass Effect gameplay and story, which we know already. By the time we rescued Kenson and encountered Object Rho, she realized something was up. Kenson was indoctrinated, like Saren (a fact she remembers very vividly, the idea of indoctrination creeped her out).

In any case, we play through Arrival, head to stop Kenson from allowing the Reapers to invade, when this happens (paraphrasing here)

MUM: 'So the whole station was indoctrinated by the Reaper artifact, right?'

ME: Yeah, being anywhere near a Reaper or Reaper artifacts can cause indoctrination.

MUM: Oh yes, that's right. So this Dr. Kenson and her team are trying to stop Shepard and allow the Reapers to invade. They view him as a threat to them.

ME: Pretty much.


There was a brief pause as I continued playing. And then this happened.

MUM: ...Why don't they just use Shepard?

ME: What?

MUM: Well, they're using all these people to do their work, but they have Shepard there now. Why not indoctrinate him? Surely that would be a big achievement for them after all he's done? It's not like Shepard's invincible or something.



Words cannot express how blown my mind was. My mum, who has never played a game since 1977, who doesn't even know how to handle a controller and is completely new to the concept of modern gaming, understands that The Reapers indoctrinating Shepard would be a huge turning point in the story to Mass Effect.

I'm not proposing this as fact that the IT is true, nor am I providing this as proof that it exists, but surely, if a non-gamer and someone who hasn't even played the game that spawned IT can see that the very basis of the theory, that the Reapers can and possibly are indoctrinating Shepard, that has to add some kind of weight? I should also add that my mum hasn't played any other major gaming franchise, past or present, and yet she STILL asks this very question?

So what am I trying to say here? Simple. My mum hasn't played a game in her life. I gave her the X-Box 360 controller once and found it impossible to navigate the homepage. Yet she's engaged in the story and the lore of Mass Effect, she loves the characters and all of its mythologies enough to ask, as a non-gamer, why isn't Shepard being indoctrinated. And she asked this from a storytelling point of view, not a gaming point of view. She doesn't even know the IT exists, nor does she know about the whole ending ordeal ME3 generated. This stunned me.

Like I said, I'm not adding proof of the existence or saying IT is true because of this. I'm simply putting this forward because of how fascinating it is, that someone like my mum can ask the question we've all been asking for the past eight months without ever picking up a controller or playing through the games countless times. Personally, now she has that question in mind, I cannot WAIT to get to Mass Effect 3 to see how she reacts to everything that happens.

Just thought this might interest you. I'm debating putting our playthrough of the series up as a blog, since it is a lot of fun to do, especially some of the choices she's made (she refused to help the Asari Consort because of her 'profession'.) But hope you find this interesting, guys.

Oh, and my mum loves Garrus. In case you were wondering :)

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Restrider wrote...
They remodeled the Vorcha? They still look like a mashup of space roaches, this guy and goblins.
Did anyone else really like the scene of that Vorcha getting fried in the force field?


They changed the eyes and buffed up the physical appearance quite a bit, also got rid of the string of flesh/skin that connected from the upper torso to the upper arms. ffs they even changed the feet and the way the spine looked!

byne wrote...
Did they change Harrot's model?

I was too busy being mad that he didnt have a cigar to notice.

That's pretty much what made me notice. His head is pointy too, now. It's weird.

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Restrider wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Seriously though, was it really necessary to remodel the Vorcha? Also bug eye glitch on all the krogan? Harrot chin??

They remodeled the Vorcha? They still look like a mashup of space roaches, this guy and goblins.
Did anyone else really like the scene of that Vorcha getting fried in the force field?


it reminded me of what happens to you when you jump into the beam for synthesis

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Just make the vorcha go in slow motion, put on the ending music for the synthesis scene and you'll notice the similarities. In the words of the catalyst but paraphrased, the vorcha's DNA was added to the shield grid. Now the shield grid knows more about organics and the vorcha knows more about the shield grid. The cycle continues

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DaveTheRave05 wrote...

Ok, guys, going to take this in a different direction. Have something that might interest you all.

Since the summer of this year, I've been playing through the Mass Effect games with my mum. She saw me playing it once and thought it was interesting, so I proposed we play through it and see if she would enjoy it. This also let me write up on my argument about gaming being an art form on the same level as film or music, which so far is pretty intriguing. Think of it like an experiment.

My mum has never been a gamer. In her own words, the last thing she shot at 'was a Space Invader in 1977 in a pub on Fleet Street.' Yet she agreed to play Mass Effect with me to see if she would enjoy it. Because the aspect of playing a game so intricate like ME, I play the game whilst she directs me. Choosing dialog options, making the major choices in the game, where to go and what to do. So far, she's loving it. She loves the story, the characters, the mythology, everything about it.

We finished Mass Effect September time and she was eager to play Mass Effect 2. I didn't expect her to take to it so well, but hey, I like surprises. And I got a big one today.

So, we've just finished Horizon, Ashley refused to join the team (which she found extremely annoying), and we were about to go get Tali when Admiral Hackett called and told her about an imminent Reaper invasion. She realized how big of a deal this was, so we started the Arrival DLC. She found it a massive departure from the regular Mass Effect gameplay and story, which we know already. By the time we rescued Kenson and encountered Object Rho, she realized something was up. Kenson was indoctrinated, like Saren (a fact she remembers very vividly, the idea of indoctrination creeped her out).

In any case, we play through Arrival, head to stop Kenson from allowing the Reapers to invade, when this happens (paraphrasing here)

MUM: 'So the whole station was indoctrinated by the Reaper artifact, right?'

ME: Yeah, being anywhere near a Reaper or Reaper artifacts can cause indoctrination.

MUM: Oh yes, that's right. So this Dr. Kenson and her team are trying to stop Shepard and allow the Reapers to invade. They view him as a threat to them.

ME: Pretty much.


There was a brief pause as I continued playing. And then this happened.

MUM: ...Why don't they just use Shepard?

ME: What?

MUM: Well, they're using all these people to do their work, but they have Shepard there now. Why not indoctrinate him? Surely that would be a big achievement for them after all he's done? It's not like Shepard's invincible or something.



Words cannot express how blown my mind was. My mum, who has never played a game since 1977, who doesn't even know how to handle a controller and is completely new to the concept of modern gaming, understands that The Reapers indoctrinating Shepard would be a huge turning point in the story to Mass Effect.

I'm not proposing this as fact that the IT is true, nor am I providing this as proof that it exists, but surely, if a non-gamer and someone who hasn't even played the game that spawned IT can see that the very basis of the theory, that the Reapers can and possibly are indoctrinating Shepard, that has to add some kind of weight? I should also add that my mum hasn't played any other major gaming franchise, past or present, and yet she STILL asks this very question?

So what am I trying to say here? Simple. My mum hasn't played a game in her life. I gave her the X-Box 360 controller once and found it impossible to navigate the homepage. Yet she's engaged in the story and the lore of Mass Effect, she loves the characters and all of its mythologies enough to ask, as a non-gamer, why isn't Shepard being indoctrinated. And she asked this from a storytelling point of view, not a gaming point of view. She doesn't even know the IT exists, nor does she know about the whole ending ordeal ME3 generated. This stunned me.

Like I said, I'm not adding proof of the existence or saying IT is true because of this. I'm simply putting this forward because of how fascinating it is, that someone like my mum can ask the question we've all been asking for the past eight months without ever picking up a controller or playing through the games countless times. Personally, now she has that question in mind, I cannot WAIT to get to Mass Effect 3 to see how she reacts to everything that happens.

Just thought this might interest you. I'm debating putting our playthrough of the series up as a blog, since it is a lot of fun to do, especially some of the choices she's made (she refused to help the Asari Consort because of her 'profession'.) But hope you find this interesting, guys.

Oh, and my mum loves Garrus. In case you were wondering :)


I love it.

I'm guessing not being a gamer gives her an edge. She thinks about the story, and doesn't go by the assumption that nothing bad can ever happen to the player avatar. Playing too many games has desensitized us gamers in that respect. ;)

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Hey, DD, I just posted a quote on the quote page.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I love it.

I'm guessing not being a gamer gives her an edge. She thinks about the story, and doesn't go by the assumption that nothing bad can ever happen to the player avatar. Playing too many games has desensitized us gamers in that respect. ;)


Too many gamers expect just to win and at minimal losses at that. 

I was a bit disappointed when Isaac Clarke survived Dead Space 2. Sad ending would have been much more fitting. And I don't think having a protagonist who has experienced the hell twice already is a good move for the third horror-action game.

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Humakt83 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I love it.

I'm guessing not being a gamer gives her an edge. She thinks about the story, and doesn't go by the assumption that nothing bad can ever happen to the player avatar. Playing too many games has desensitized us gamers in that respect. ;)


Too many gamers expect just to win and at minimal losses at that. 

I was a bit disappointed when Isaac Clarke survived Dead Space 2. Sad ending would have been much more fitting. And I don't think having a protagonist who has experienced the hell twice already is a good move for the third horror-action game.


This is why I play game series like the Max Payne series.  It's nice to play a series where everyone (Or almost everyone) dies.  Well, Max never dies, but that's because he's too stubborn. :)

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[quote]Heretic_Hanar wrote...
I made a big gigantic list a few posts ago. It was in fact a reply to you. You handwaved it away as "just your opinion man" and moved on. Have you already forgotten?[/quote]
You want me to go in depth on your own bad-writing handwaving?  OK then, no problem.

[quote]I'm not talking about the endings or other plotholes, but just plain horrible dumb stuff, such as how Kai Leng was portayed in ME3, how TIM was turned into Saren 2.0, how Derperus all of the sudden became the new Sith Empire and not to mention the incredibly nonsensical derp Citadel-coup plot. Goddamn that was silly![/quote]
Kai Leng I agree with.  He was so out of place it wasn't even funny.  And Cerberus played far too large a part in the game for my liking.
However TIM was far from being a Saren version 2.0.  There were plenty of (intentional) parallels with the fate of Saren, of course, but at the same time the Illusive Man was very much his own person, working to dominate the Reapers for the good of his people rather than being subservient to them.  He was portrayed as being within touchinng distance of success... and, according to the Catalyst, potentially right all along.

[quote]Or how Tali became Admiral, what a joke! Or the way the VS keeps acting like a moron through the entire game. First he/she keeps nagging about how he/she can't trust Shepard, then he/she acts like a dumb puppet for Udina, totally clueless of what is really going on, even though it's absolutely obvious.[/quote]
I'm not sure I understand your objection to Tali's promotion, especially given her knowledge of the Geth.  Certainly it didn't detract from my gaming experience.
So you're saying the Virmire survivor trusting the Council representative of humanity, and distrusting a person who had been rebuilt by and worked with a terrorist organisation made no sense?  Maybe not, with the benefit of the knowledge the player has.. but in the context of the game?

[quote]And I haven't even mentioned Wrex and Legion yet, two characters who did a complete 180 turn in ME3 and completely contradicted their ME2 beliefs. Wrex all of the sudden being hellbend on curing the genophage and Legion being hellbend on uploading the reaper code to the geth consensus. That's just stupid![/quote]
LOL, okay.  Wanting to save and preserve their own people is stupid.  And dumb.  Wrex KNEW the Council needed Krogan support.  He KNEW that the Krogan were key to uniting the races against the Reapers.  He was in an ideal position to bargain.  While Legion did become something of a hypocrite, at the same time the Geth make decisions by consensus.  They KNEW they were losing the fight against the Quarians.  In desperation, they turned to the only allies they could turn to.  Speaking to Legion, it was clear this wasn't a decision "he" necessarily agreed with.

[quote]Shall I continue? Lets tall about the fact that the geth are so dumb that regardless of what you did in ME2, they always fall of the same reaper trap, AGAIN! The turning into willing slaves of the reapers once more is incredibly stupid! I'm glad I exterminated every single last one of those damn geth on Rannoch. After such a big amount of derp you simply do not deserve to live in my books.[/quote]
See above.  It's born of desperation, and Legion's opinion doesn't necessarily account for the entire Geth collective.  Plus of course, like so many story elements throughout ME3, the Geth's pact with the Reapers was also intended to give some context and food for thought during the final decision in the game.

[quote]Oh, talking about Rannoch: The quarians deciding to go to war with the geth right at the point when the reapers are literally on their doorstep! Yeaaaaaaaah that's totally not stupid now is it? Oh, the reapers are coming, that means it's totally the perfect time to go to war to retake our home world! Makes sense! NOT![/quote]
Yes, because the Quarian's war effort started RIGHT AT THE SAME TIME as the Reapers invaded the galaxy.  The Quarian's war effort and plans to retake their home were being made during ME2!  Even if you assume that the Quarians knew everything about the Reapers that the player does (which they don't), and were fully aware of the invasion of Earth (which they weren't), their were already fully committed at that point.

[quote]I can go on if you wish. How about the fact that all of the sudden Earth is the centre of the universe? How convenient that the Citadel, where we need to dock the Crucible, is now above earth! Well thanks a lot reapers, you just made it possible for us to liberate our homeplanet AND shut you down by docking the Crucible, all in one single massive attack! HOW CONVENIENT!  Thanks for that oppertunity my reaper homies![/quote]
Humanity being "special" is not a theme that was solely introduced in ME3.  It doesn't happen "all of a sudden".  Why did the Collector's focus on humanity in ME2?  Why did they attempt to create a Human Reaper?  Isn't the Reapers focus on Earth simply a continuation of the existing story?

[quote]Speaking of the Crucible and convenience: Don't you think it's a little too convenient that all of the sudden we find the Crucible blueprints on Mars right at the moment when the reapers are on our doorstep? Sorry, but we have the Mars archives for how many years? And we NEVER EVER heard of the Crucible until now right at the moment when the reapers come trashing our party? WOW, HOW CONVENIENT!  Wait wut, what is this Crucible anyway? Never heard of it before! Not in ME1, not in ME2, not once! But oh well, Liara thinks it will stop the reapers to lets spend ALL OUR RESOURCES on building this strange unknown device, even though we have no clue how the damn thing  works or what it's supposed to do. God, has the entire universe gone insane or something? Yeah, not bad writing at all! [/quote]
Of course it's a little too convenient.  The dialogue in the game actually takes pains to point that out to us.  You're MEANT to question it, to wonder about it.  Is this subtlety lost on you?  We're told time and time again that using the Crucible is a plan born of desperation, that no-one is sure exactly what it will do, or exactly where the plans came from.  Hackett, Liara, Garrus, Anderson, every ally you speak to, even Shepard doubts the wisdom of the idea.  But none are able to offer any better suggestions.
It's a plot device that you're meant to be suspicious of.  There's many reasons why as a macguffin it could be considered "bad writing", but the fact that it's "too convenient" isn't actually one of them.

[quote]Alas, enough about this. I could go on like this forever, but I think I made my point rather clear.[/quote]
Yes, you certainly did.  You have a lot of issues with the game, however the vast majority are not indicative of the standard of writing within the game, just indicative of your own impressions, interpretations and opinions.
[quote]
That's why I added a link to a fragment of the movie to give you an idea. Watch that fragment, else you won't understand the point I'm trying to make.[/quote]
I've watched the clip.  I was a little bemused, but I'm not going to make a judgement on an entire film based on it, especially when I don't know what context it is meant to be taken in.

[quote]And the majority of people I have spoken to who have played ME3 said is sucked balls and didn't live up to the first 2 parts of the series. That's not an opinion, that's a FACT.[/quote]
And I'm sure they all found nothing enjoyable about the game whatsoever.  Just as I'm sure you found nothing enjoyable about the game whatsoever.
[quote]
Just look at the BSN, especially a few months back. That in itself is evidence that a lot of the complaints I make are shared by a lot of other people. There won't be much rage about it anymore right now, but everyone who was on the BSN 8 months ago can vouch for me. A lot of people had complaints, and most of them were very valid complaints.[/quote]
I've been on here since before ME3 was launched, and I've seen plenty of debate both for and against.  I've seen a lot of complainers, a lot of who settled down quite quickly after spending some time on the forum.  I've also seen a ton of people saying they enjoy the game, enjoy the endings.  I've certainly never seen a consensus either way.


[quote]LMAO! Empirical evidence? That's a good one!  Seriously, how do you even dare to say that. The IT is not based on "empirical evidence" as presented within the game, it's rather the other way around; you try to fit the "empirical evidence" as presented within the game into your little theory. [/quote]
Now you're deliberately misquoting me and/or being obtuse.  I said the IT is based on "the discussion and interpretation of the various endings using the empirical evidence as presented within the game itself".  Would you care to copy/paste the codex entry for Reaper Indoctrination?  Explain to me it's relevance to the series and it's use throughout the games?  Explain how it may play a part in the interpretation of the endings?  That's an example of what I meant by DISCUSSING empirical evidence.

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I just remember a line from Nyreen in the Omega DLC that I think proves without a doubt that the BioWare writers honestly aren't  that good, or at least the team that wrote the Omega DLC isn't :


“The Cerberus occupation is an illegal action….” - Nyreen Kandros.


I mean really... seriously.... an illegal action... on Omega... thats... just hylarious....  :lol:


I guess Cerberus is so evil that they can break non-existent laws! :lol:

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I just remember a line from Nyreen in the Omega DLC that I think proves without a doubt that the BioWare writers honestly aren't  that good, or at least the team that wrote the Omega DLC isn't :


“The Cerberus occupation is an illegal action….” - Nyreen Kandros.


I mean really... seriously.... an illegal action... on Omega... thats... just hylarious....  :lol:


I guess Cerberus is so evil that they can break non-existent laws! :lol:


Oh good. I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that line stupid.

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byne wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I just remember a line from Nyreen in the Omega DLC that I think proves without a doubt that the BioWare writers honestly aren't  that good, or at least the team that wrote the Omega DLC isn't :


“The Cerberus occupation is an illegal action….” - Nyreen Kandros.


I mean really... seriously.... an illegal action... on Omega... thats... just hylarious....  :lol:


I guess Cerberus is so evil that they can break non-existent laws! :lol:

Oh good. I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that line stupid.


To be fair, that is ridiculous.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I just remember a line from Nyreen in the Omega DLC that I think proves without a doubt that the BioWare writers honestly aren't  that good, or at least the team that wrote the Omega DLC isn't :


“The Cerberus occupation is an illegal action….” - Nyreen Kandros.


I mean really... seriously.... an illegal action... on Omega... thats... just hylarious....  :lol:


I guess Cerberus is so evil that they can break non-existent laws! :lol:


A decent point, but it's likely she wasn't refering to Omega law.  Cerberus is a human organization and as a Citadel Council race they're almost certainly still bound by at least some Council laws regardless of their location.  In fact just plain "don't provoke the Terminus systems" seems to be pretty damn high on the Council's no-no list since Shepard had to go rogue to get to Ilos.

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byne wrote...

Oh good. I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that line stupid.


To be fair, she is Lawful Stupid.  That's the sort of thing you'd expect them to say.

And Cerberus's occupation is illegal in that it was seized with force, and everyone on board is now a prisoner.  At least Aria's rule was stable and mostly non-violent (in that she used violence sparingly, knowing fear was a better tool then murder).

But yeah, Nyreen is rather niave to put it lightly.  The fact she was initially unwilling to side with Aria's and Shepard at all against Cerberus also reinforces this concept - she actually thought she could win alone.

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Dwailing wrote...

Well, we've always said that the EMS system is meant not only as a measurement of the strength of Shepard's fleet, but also as a measurement of Shepard's willpower.   That would explain why the Normandy has a value higher than AN ALLIANCE FLEET, and Shepard's ex-ME2 teammates end up having a higher total value than, again, AN ALLIANCE FLEET.


Fair enough.

If I had to make an explanation for the rather silly numbers from a literal perspective, I'd say that the numbers are based on how important the assets are in the war.

The Normandy is MUCH MORE important than many feelts combined. That would explain why its number is so high in comparison to other numbers.


Of course, this doesn't hold up, just like your intepretation of the random numbers doesn't hold up. I mean a single promoted multiplayer character is also more valuable than some fleets and armies. How do you explain that from your IT perspective? Shepard doesn't even personally know the promoted MP characters!


Well, the IT is about Shepard AND the players being indoctrinated so since we are the MP characters that makes sense

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Hehe. I'm sure this line was meant purely for giggles by the writers, but it's cute from an IT perspective.

Aria: Plus, if I have to suffer that scumbag staring at my ****** one more time, I might have to kill him.
Shepard: Yeah, he mentioned--
Aria: That I'm going to sleep with him? We all have our delusions.

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Are there more thoughts on the Anderson-discussion?
I'd really like to get more feedback for that, especially trying to rationalize it not using IT!
If it is thoroughly scrutinized, it will get an important spot on the IT Top Ten (that I will overhaul in the next days).

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byne wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I just remember a line from Nyreen in the Omega DLC that I think proves without a doubt that the BioWare writers honestly aren't  that good, or at least the team that wrote the Omega DLC isn't :


“The Cerberus occupation is an illegal action….” - Nyreen Kandros.


I mean really... seriously.... an illegal action... on Omega... thats... just hylarious....  :lol:


I guess Cerberus is so evil that they can break non-existent laws! :lol:


Oh good. I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that line stupid.

Well, Omega has one rule, don't f*** with Aria, and Cerberus broke it big time when they stole the station from her.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

byne wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I just remember a line from Nyreen in the Omega DLC that I think proves without a doubt that the BioWare writers honestly aren't  that good, or at least the team that wrote the Omega DLC isn't :


“The Cerberus occupation is an illegal action….” - Nyreen Kandros.


I mean really... seriously.... an illegal action... on Omega... thats... just hylarious....  :lol:


I guess Cerberus is so evil that they can break non-existent laws! :lol:


Oh good. I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that line stupid.

Well, Omega has one rule, don't f*** with Aria, and Cerberus broke it big time when they stole the station from her.


That rule's garbage.  Lots of people have broken that rule.  I mean like hundreds.-- Oh, we mean **** with in a metaphorical sense.  Yeah, that makes sense.

#54824
Andromidius

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Rifneno wrote...

Hehe. I'm sure this line was meant purely for giggles by the writers, but it's cute from an IT perspective.

Aria: Plus, if I have to suffer that scumbag staring at my ****** one more time, I might have to kill him.
Shepard: Yeah, he mentioned--
Aria: That I'm going to sleep with him? We all have our delusions.


Speaking of Aria's ******, aren't Matriarch's supposed to get more...womanly...as they get older?  Aria's not under-equiped by any means, but compared to Benezia...

#54825
Restrider

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Rifneno wrote...

Hehe. I'm sure this line was meant purely for giggles by the writers, but it's cute from an IT perspective.

Aria: Plus, if I have to suffer that scumbag staring at my ****** one more time, I might have to kill him.
Shepard: Yeah, he mentioned--
Aria: That I'm going to sleep with him? We all have our delusions.

I don't like Darner Vosque. I am more in favour of crazy asari (successor of Nassana Dantius, Morinth, Elnora, Cpt. Wasea, Cpt. Enyala...).
Edit: Boy... I really like that quote :>

Modifié par Restrider, 30 novembre 2012 - 12:04 .