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[BleedingUranium]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

byne wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Ditto. If you want to headcanon that Shepard is dreaming for 15 hours, be my guest, but it did most certainly did not happen in-game.

I'm currently playing ME1.

Just activated the Beacon on Eden Prime and woke up.

Shepard: How long was I out?
Chakwas: About 15 hours.

If it didnt happen in your game you didnt play ME1.

Read what I said earlier. Shepard might have been out for 15 hours after he got the vision from the beacon burned in his brain, which happend while he was still very much awake.

Shepard did not dream for 15 hours. Or maybe he did, but the vision was clearly only a couple of seconds and he saw it when he was awake.

The ending may have only been a couple seconds too.

Krimzie wrote...

I'm glad you clearly concede that visions, no matter the cause, are part of the narrative -- because that's fact. 

Yes, visions  are part of the main plot. Dreams or 'All Just A Dream' plot-devices however are not.

Dreams, visions, hallucinations, alternate reality. To deny that these are all related is once again not understanding theme.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 30 novembre 2012 - 03:08 .

[BleedingUranium]

Krimzie wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

I'm glad you clearly concede that visions, no matter the cause, are part of the narrative -- because that's fact. 

Yes, visions  are part of the main plot. Dreams or 'All Just A Dream' plot-devices however are not.

Dr. Chakwas: But I detected some unusual brain activity. Abnormal beta waves. I also noticed an increase in your rapid eye movement, signs typically associated with intense dreaming. 

And it's not a prompted response -- it's one everyone gets.

"This one is too sure of itself to fact check."

[Lokanaiya]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

I'm glad you clearly concede that visions, no matter the cause, are part of the narrative -- because that's fact. 

Yes, visions  are part of the main plot. Dreams or 'All Just A Dream' plot-devices however are not.

Go check my post 2 pages ago regarding that.

Modifié par Lokanaiya, 30 novembre 2012 - 03:11 .

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Agreed. That's why Inception and Zelda Links Awakening are good stories.

However, dreams and hallicunations have never been part of the major plot in Mass Effect, except for maby those 3 dreams about the kid. But there is a clear distinction between those dreams and what we experience during the ending.

I defy anyone to tell me he's not trolling after saying Link's Awakening was a good story.

Links Awakening had a good story, much better than Mass Effect 3. It was a good game.

I defy anyone to tell me this guy is not trying to flamebait me after saying absolute horsecrap nonsense about an excellent game.

Wasnt Link's Awakening all a dream?

Didnt you say earlier that being a dream makes a story suck?

Werent you going to bed?

It wasn't JUST all a dream.  It was a Zelda game that didn't include so much as a mention of Zelda and was entirely the dream of a a god-whale called the Wind Fish.  This asinine creature:



He slept in a giant egg, and his dreams of an island were made reality.  Why?  Because **** you, he's the god-whale, that's why.  Since Link shipwrecked on the dream island, he wasn't allowed to leave while the Wind Fish slept.  Why?  Again, **** you, that's why.  So Link pretty much genocides the island so he can leave.  But whatever, ethics are for douchebags anyway.  Much like a coherent storyline.

And I'm flame-baiting by saying that story sucks?  Really?

[BleedingUranium]

Lost at the bottom of last page:

-Eden Prime Beacon
-Watching it again with Liara
-And again with Shiala
-Virmire Beacon
-Indoctrination codex
-Overlord alternate reality overlay
-Derelict Reaper crew having hallucinations
-Arrival team having nightmares and hearing voices
-Shepard's nightmares with the kid
-ME3 Eden Prime visions
-Geth Consensus
-Constant overuse of the word "nightmare" in ME3
-Entire end sequence of Leviathan (nearly identical to ME3 end)

[Andromidius]

Burr. I should stop watching Mass Effect videos on Youtube at 3am when its freezing cold. Gives me the willies.

[BleedingUranium]

SwobyJ wrote...

DaveTheRave05 wrote...

Ok, guys(..)

You rock

That's interesting about your mother too. Sadly, my boyfriend:
-couldn't realize that Kenson was indoctrinated
-chose to keep the collector base
-thought Udina was trustworthy until the Citadel coup (he just finished this level)
-thought the Collectors were not related to the Prothians at all and barely related to the Reapers (wtflol)

I think it's actually how his mind works in many cases, so I don't fault him, but it's astonishing sometimes.
He's so attentive to the details of a scene (visually, auditorially) that he DOES catch things I miss, but narratively, he's constantly just 'in the moment' and seemingly unable to look at the bigger picture.

(I guess I should note that in my first playthrough of Mass Effect games, I can go blindly Paragon as well, and make some of the same 'mistakes' he did, but that he doesn't even remotely question what he sees, continues to blow me away haha)

I did something similar with my dad. I'm fairly sure he'd pick up on IT if he played, though he simply doesn't have the time. I'm not going to spoil it just in case though. What I did was have him listen to the three tracks from the three ending monologues (and the Refuse replacement for "And End, Once And For All", becuase there's no monologue part) without any context, and tell me what words he thought of while listening to them. Here's the result:



SYNTHESIS
What comes next?
Storytelling
Progress
Convergence
Coming together with a plan
Exploring
Looking
Analyzing
Awe
Approaching a terminus
Coming to an end

CONTROL
Apprehension
Concern
Uncertainty
Anticipation
Fear
Unknown
Tension

REFUSE
Aftermath
Loss
Reflection
Death
Realization
What now?
Remembering
Determination

DESTROY
Hope
New beginning
Looking ahead
Colleagues
Starting anew

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 30 novembre 2012 - 03:28 .

[Krimzie]

BleedingUranium wrote...

I did something similar with my dad. I'm fairly sure he'd pick up on IT if he played, though he simply doesn't have the time. I'm not going to spoil it just in case though. What I did was have him listen to the three tracks from the three ending monologues (and the Refuse replacement for "And End, Once And For All", becuase there's no monologue part) without any context, and tell me what words he thought of while listening to them. Here's the result:



SYNTHESIS
What comes next?
Storytelling
Progress
Convergence
Coming together with a plan
Exploring
Looking
Analyzing
Awe
Approaching a terminus
Coming to an end

CONTROL
Apprehension
Concern
Uncertainty
Anticipation
Fear
Unknown
Tension

REFUSE
Aftermath
Loss
Reflection
Death
Realization
What now?
Remembering
Determination

DESTROY
Hope
New beginning
Looking ahead
Colleagues
Starting anew

Awesome. This is very cool. I feel exactly the same way about the compositions, and I have to wonder if Sam Hulick has a preferred ending or if he was given notes on how the scenes should sound.

[byne]

BleedingUranium wrote...


I did something similar with my dad. I'm fairly sure he'd pick up on IT if he played, though he simply doesn't have the time. I'm not going to spoil it just in case though. What I did was have him listen to the three tracks from the three ending monologues (and the Refuse replacement for "And End, Once And For All", becuase there's no monologue part) without any context, and tell me what words he thought of while listening to them. Here's the result:



SYNTHESIS
What comes next?
Storytelling
Progress
Convergence
Coming together with a plan
Exploring
Looking
Analyzing
Awe
Approaching a terminus
Coming to an end

Synthesis being about storytelling made me laugh way harder than it should have.

[CmdrShep80]

byne wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Ditto. If you want to headcanon that Shepard is dreaming for 15 hours, be my guest, but it did most certainly did not happen in-game.

I'm currently playing ME1.

Just activated the Beacon on Eden Prime and woke up.

Shepard: How long was I out?
Chakwas: About 15 hours.

If it didnt happen in your game you didnt play ME1.

and did you hear whispers?

[CmdrShep80]

oh and we're 24 pages away from passing Mark 2 and 70 pages from passing mark 1 YAY!

EDIT - This should take at best a day and at worse a week

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 30 novembre 2012 - 03:41 .

[byne]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

oh and we're 24 pages away from passing Mark 2 and 70 pages from passing mark 1 YAY!

I think waiting for the lock is stressing me out. I had a dream last night that it got locked while I was asleep and Hanar of all people made the new one.

[CmdrShep80]

So...what's the easiest way to do this:

Operation DETONATOR (Nov 30th – Dec 2nd)

Event Description: Recent setbacks have prompted changes in unit composition. Turian cabal theory is now dominant training paradigm. N7 units will now be deployed with pairs or higher percentages of biotics wherever available to maximize effectiveness.

Individual Goal: Earn 20,000 Biotic Explosion points on any map at any difficulty. You will need to kill the enemy with the explosion for the points to count. Points are cumulative across matches. Extraction not required.

Reward: Commendation Pack

[401 Kill]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

oh and we're 24 pages away from passing Mark 2 and 70 pages from passing mark 1 YAY!

We must not draw attention to ourselves in order to surpass the marks set by the previous threads! 

[CmdrShep80]

byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

oh and we're 24 pages away from passing Mark 2 and 70 pages from passing mark 1 YAY!

I think waiting for the lock is stressing me out. I had a dream last night that it got locked while I was asleep and Hanar of all people made the new one.

"Listen to yourself!  You're...indoctrinated!"

"Wake up!"

[Andromidius]

byne wrote...
Synthesis being about storytelling made me laugh way harder than it should have.

You've got to admit, its a pretty good fairy tale concept.

In a horrifying way.

[401 Kill]

byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

oh and we're 24 pages away from passing Mark 2 and 70 pages from passing mark 1 YAY!

I think waiting for the lock is stressing me out. I had a dream last night that it got locked while I was asleep and Hanar of all people made the new one.

My god... The Reapers are affecting you more than we could have possibly imagined:blink:

[Andromidius]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

So...what's the easiest way to do this:

Operation DETONATOR (Nov 30th – Dec 2nd)

Event Description: Recent setbacks have prompted changes in unit composition. Turian cabal theory is now dominant training paradigm. N7 units will now be deployed with pairs or higher percentages of biotics wherever available to maximize effectiveness.

Individual Goal: Earn 20,000 Biotic Explosion points on any map at any difficulty. You will need to kill the enemy with the explosion for the points to count. Points are cumulative across matches. Extraction not required.

Reward: Commendation Pack

Volus Adept, Bronze solo Cerberus.

Spam Biotic Orbs and Stasis = Biotic Explosions galore.

Modifié par Andromidius, 30 novembre 2012 - 03:48 .

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

oh and we're 24 pages away from passing Mark 2 and 70 pages from passing mark 1 YAY!

I think waiting for the lock is stressing me out. I had a dream last night that it got locked while I was asleep and Hanar of all people made the new one.

Hahahahaha oh god

CmdrShep80 wrote...

So...what's the easiest way to do this:

Operation DETONATOR (Nov 30th – Dec 2nd)

Anything that can do lots of explosions, my favourite for this is the default Asari Adept (Liara)

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 30 novembre 2012 - 03:47 .