RavenEyry wrote...
It IS set up in a similar fashion to the collector base I suppose.
Modifié par Gwyphon, 30 novembre 2012 - 01:41 .
RavenEyry wrote...
Not me, Eryri.demersel wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
I don't quote if I think it's obvious what I'm referring too, sorry.
So basicly, you're saying that Harbinger is a she? Harbinge's a biatch?
Modifié par Eryri, 30 novembre 2012 - 01:47 .
Gwyphon wrote...
collectors -> cerberus (both harvesting humans)
collector base -> chronos station (both had human reaper)
collector general -> TIM (both indoctrinated/enthralled) Just want to point out that the collector general seemed to be enthralled by harbinger, similar to howSaren was enthralled by Sovreign at the end of ME1. Doesn't seem like indoctrinated but instead direct control
dorktainian wrote...
Gwyphon wrote...
collectors -> cerberus (both harvesting humans)
collector base -> chronos station (both had human reaper)
collector general -> TIM (both indoctrinated/enthralled) Just want to point out that the collector general seemed to be enthralled by harbinger, similar to how Saren was enthralled by Sovreign at the end of ME1. Doesn't seem like indoctrinated but instead direct control
...no, you're right. It's those three blue dots again.FFZero wrote...
Am I the only one who thinks that the parts of the human reaper in that pic look a little bit like 3 big eyes?
dorktainian wrote...
The Collectors are not creatures as such - they were protheans that were stripped of any of their race - twisted and converted at a bilogical level into monsterous creatures. All of whom can be possessed by harbie. There are no remnants of anything prothean about them...only the shape. Also the collector general is not the same shape. He is deffo more insectoid. Maybe he was as shepard is now during his cycle. Taken and used by the reapers. Only when Harbinger releases him from servitude and he becomes himself again...its almost like a 'what the hell have i done' look on its face as everything goes belly up around him. The kind of 'where am i' look. (thats if it can be...looking at a giant insectoid) replace TIM with Shep. TIM knew he could fall - so the technology went to the next best servant of humanity - and one of more personal interest to the reapers....
Remember on Mars you find out that the cerberus troops have been implanted and augmented... Being stripped of their humanity?dorktainian wrote...
Gwyphon wrote...
collectors -> cerberus (both harvesting humans)
collector base -> chronos station (both had human reaper)
collector general -> TIM (both indoctrinated/enthralled) Just want to point out that the collector general seemed to be enthralled by harbinger, similar to how Saren was enthralled by Sovreign at the end of ME1. Doesn't seem like indoctrinated but instead direct control
The Collectors are not creatures as such - they were protheans that were stripped of any of their race - twisted and converted at a bilogical level into monsterous creatures. All of whom can be possessed by harbie. There are no remnants of anything prothean about them...only the shape. Also the collector general is not the same shape. He is deffo more insectoid. Maybe he was as shepard is now during his cycle. Taken and used by the reapers. Only when Harbinger releases him from servitude and he becomes himself again...its almost like a 'what the hell have i done' look on its face as everything goes belly up around him. The kind of 'where am i' look. (thats if it can be...looking at a giant insectoid) replace TIM with Shep. TIM knew he could fall - so the technology went to the next best servant of humanity - and one of more personal interest to the reapers....
bang on. Notice how when the helmet comes off a cerberus trooper he has been semi-huskified. He's been changed to become something else...something not quite human.demersel wrote...
dorktainian wrote...
The Collectors are not creatures as such - they were protheans that were stripped of any of their race - twisted and converted at a bilogical level into monsterous creatures. All of whom can be possessed by harbie. There are no remnants of anything prothean about them...only the shape. Also the collector general is not the same shape. He is deffo more insectoid. Maybe he was as shepard is now during his cycle. Taken and used by the reapers. Only when Harbinger releases him from servitude and he becomes himself again...its almost like a 'what the hell have i done' look on its face as everything goes belly up around him. The kind of 'where am i' look. (thats if it can be...looking at a giant insectoid) replace TIM with Shep. TIM knew he could fall - so the technology went to the next best servant of humanity - and one of more personal interest to the reapers....
So... all the collectors can be possessed by harbinger... and they are engineered that.... isnm't it very much like cerberus troops are all implanted with a control chip?
in the artbook isnt there a drawing of reapertim? wasnt that concept abandoned? (yeah really?)BleedingUranium wrote...
I want a ReaperTIM so we can fight possessed Cerberus troops!
Martin Sheen with Reaper voice filter: "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTOL!"
BleedingUranium wrote...
I want a ReaperTIM so we can fight possessed Cerberus troops!
Martin Sheen with Reaper voice filter: "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTOL!"
Dunno but this pic is disgusting.dorktainian wrote...
byne wrote...
Are you renegade? I'm paragon and I never even got an option. Aria just let him live. If you're renegade, just kill him. Stop worrying so much. It has literally no impact other than the loss of a measly 30 EMS.
as well as justify the existance of star brat.RavenEyry wrote...
@Rifneno: My first impression from leviathan was that they really, really didn't want to break the cycle. They complain about how the reapers destroyed their civilisation and can kill capital reapers in seconds, but are content to hang around in a cave.
Well... Sh#t.Rifneno wrote...
OMG. Remember how we were discussing our crazier theories the other day and I mentioned being unsure that Leviathans weren't actually Reapers themselves? Well I'm replaying the game and when I got to the part where Leviathan is controlling Ann Bryson and EDI tracks down Leviathan through the signal. I always let Vega shield the artifact as soon as we're narrowed down to a star cluster, but I figured I'd go the renegade route once to see what else she says.
"The cycle cannot be broken."
I didn't have alarm bells going off in my head, I had air raid sirens. I've got an excellent memory for quotes of the series. That exact phrase has been uttered twice in the entire series. Once by Sovereign, and once by Harbinger. Despite the relatively little dialogue we've had with them, both capital ships we've spoken to have said it. It is a signature Reaper phrase.
This also explains how the Protheans had technology to detect indoctrination but that it wasn't fool-proof. They were watching for that strange QEC variation that the "Leviathans" use. And it often missed indoctrinated individuals because it can only detect their malady while the Reapers are actively controlling them.
Rifneno wrote...
OMG. Remember how we were discussing our crazier theories the other day and I mentioned being unsure that Leviathans weren't actually Reapers themselves? Well I'm replaying the game and when I got to the part where Leviathan is controlling Ann Bryson and EDI tracks down Leviathan through the signal. I always let Vega shield the artifact as soon as we're narrowed down to a star cluster, but I figured I'd go the renegade route once to see what else she says.
"The cycle cannot be broken."
I didn't have alarm bells going off in my head, I had air raid sirens. I've got an excellent memory for quotes of the series. That exact phrase has been uttered twice in the entire series. Once by Sovereign, and once by Harbinger. Despite the relatively little dialogue we've had with them, both capital ships we've spoken to have said it. It is a signature Reaper phrase.
This also explains how the Protheans had technology to detect indoctrination but that it wasn't fool-proof. They were watching for that strange QEC variation that the "Leviathans" use. And it often missed indoctrinated individuals because it can only detect their malady while the Reapers are actively controlling them.
oo ooh.BleedingUranium wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
OMG. Remember how we were discussing our crazier theories the other day and I mentioned being unsure that Leviathans weren't actually Reapers themselves? Well I'm replaying the game and when I got to the part where Leviathan is controlling Ann Bryson and EDI tracks down Leviathan through the signal. I always let Vega shield the artifact as soon as we're narrowed down to a star cluster, but I figured I'd go the renegade route once to see what else she says.
"The cycle cannot be broken."
I didn't have alarm bells going off in my head, I had air raid sirens. I've got an excellent memory for quotes of the series. That exact phrase has been uttered twice in the entire series. Once by Sovereign, and once by Harbinger. Despite the relatively little dialogue we've had with them, both capital ships we've spoken to have said it. It is a signature Reaper phrase.
This also explains how the Protheans had technology to detect indoctrination but that it wasn't fool-proof. They were watching for that strange QEC variation that the "Leviathans" use. And it often missed indoctrinated individuals because it can only detect their malady while the Reapers are actively controlling them.
Wow. I'm liking the idea that they're really Reapers/Reaper projections/indoctrinated themselves/etc even more now!
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