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[BatmanTurian]

Krimzie wrote...

Rankincountry wrote...
OK, so I don't think anyone is going to be talking about CD Projeckt or Bioware or Obsidian or Eidos Montreal (not to mention various Indie studios bringing out gems like Gemini Rue) in the same breath as Shakespeare any time soon

LOL! This is awesome as I start my final draft for my thesis wherein I argue Hamlet is an avatar character and make references to the Hamlet jokes in ME1 and 2... it's works perfectly, I swear...

Anyway, as you were. I've got to get back to that research...



PS -- Hi everyone! 

Hi, have fun with that paper. I should be working on my novel, but c'est la vie.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:36 .

[CmdrShep80]

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Okay, after checking Mass Effect Wiki (lol) it says that Anderson's death only effects the Breath scene.

Even so, Anderson living a few minutes longer makes Shepard more able to survive massive explosions, decompression, atmospheric re-entry and hitting hard rubble? Erm. Yeah?

That actually makes it even more interesting. If his survival for a few extra minutes only affects the breath scene, why even have that mechanic in the game unless the breath scene is important?

If the breath scene was just intended as an easter egg for the most dedicated players, why have a way to get it easier at all?

i come back to my 10k EMS belief. They want us to have 10k EMS for something. Frankly I hope I'm proven wrong but we're only 2k short at this point and more dlc is on the way

[demersel]

BatmanTurian wrote...

 I should be working on my novel, but c'est la vie.

Tell me about it!! I should be working on my movie!! (or at least english subtitles to the one i already made recently.) 

[Restrider]

[quote]Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Another thing I've knowest was in ME3, there is no victory theme. The one that plays after beating ME1 and ME2:

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This theme is also in ME3. It plays during the assault on Earth when you see all your war assets coming through the Charon relay.

Here is a link to the ME3 version of the victory theme: 

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You do realize that those are two different themes?
The first is the victory theme, the latter is the spectre induction theme aka fleets arrive theme. Spectre induction was present in ME1, here is a link.

[BansheeOwnage]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Okay, after checking Mass Effect Wiki (lol) it says that Anderson's death only effects the Breath scene.

Even so, Anderson living a few minutes longer makes Shepard more able to survive massive explosions, decompression, atmospheric re-entry and hitting hard rubble? Erm. Yeah?

That actually makes it even more interesting. If his survival for a few extra minutes only affects the breath scene, why even have that mechanic in the game unless the breath scene is important?

If the breath scene was just intended as an easter egg for the most dedicated players, why have a way to get it easier at all?

i come back to my 10k EMS belief. They want us to have 10k EMS for something. Frankly I hope I'm proven wrong but we're only 2k short at this point and more dlc is on the way

Well, you can mod to change your EMS level, and it doesn't do anything. Still, it doesn't quite prove you wrong.

[BansheeOwnage]

[quote]Restrider wrote...

[quote]Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Another thing I've knowest was in ME3, there is no victory theme. The one that plays after beating ME1 and ME2:

[/quote]

This theme is also in ME3. It plays during the assault on Earth when you see all your war assets coming through the Charon relay.

Here is a link to the ME3 version of the victory theme: 

[/quote]
You do realize that those are two different themes?
The first is the victory theme, the latter is the spectre induction theme aka fleets arrive theme. Spectre induction was present in ME1, here is a link.
[/quote]
Weird to say it, but in this case I believe Hanar is correct.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:41 .

[byne]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Okay, after checking Mass Effect Wiki (lol) it says that Anderson's death only effects the Breath scene.

Even so, Anderson living a few minutes longer makes Shepard more able to survive massive explosions, decompression, atmospheric re-entry and hitting hard rubble? Erm. Yeah?

That actually makes it even more interesting. If his survival for a few extra minutes only affects the breath scene, why even have that mechanic in the game unless the breath scene is important?

If the breath scene was just intended as an easter egg for the most dedicated players, why have a way to get it easier at all?

i come back to my 10k EMS belief. They want us to have 10k EMS for something. Frankly I hope I'm proven wrong but we're only 2k short at this point and more dlc is on the way

Considering you get 75 EMS for every MP character you promote, I'm fairly certain lots of people have at least 10k EMS .

[BatmanTurian]

acidic-ph0 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Well that may be your opinion, but I disagree seeing as how there are numerous parallels we have uncovered long before I made that post. but you will probably dismiss those too. Subtlety in good fiction is wasted on those who can't see it.

Lol passive aggressiveness XD That's cute... 

How about this then... http://tvtropes.org/...nItsNotDidactic


Accepting some things at face value is actually a GOOD thing sometimes. It allows some semblance of reality to exist in the game world. Remember, Mass Effect isn't Inception and I mean that in the litteral sense. It is not a franchise that relies on an abundance of symbolism and metaphor, just enough to make the audience think but not overanalyze everything to a point of absurdity. Basically it has peaks and valleys of litteral and symbolic interpretations and I'm pretty sure Omega is the former... Hell just look at the advertising for it. Pretty clear to me that it wasn't being sold to the role-playing audience and was more inclined to hook the PewPew crowd instead.

If you don't mind indulging me, was my asspull, metaphorical interpretation of Aria and Omega invalid as a metaphor? Have I missed anything? I would like to know if you think that your interpretation has any more credence than mine.

I was actually being polite, not passive aggressive. I've dealt with snarky people like you, since I am a regular on FARK.com and a veteran of 4chan (not that that should be something to be proud of), so please keep it to yourself.

Your statement that mass effect doesn't rely on symbolism and metaphor is ignorant and totally wrong. There is pewpew but there is story too, and you're ignoring the story purely for pewpew.

Your metaphor had some problems, but your point was to make my literary analysis look foolish, which was foolish by itself in a discussion board for discussing the story. I have no comment because you don't even believe your own metaphor.

[byne]

Huh... yknow the man and woman in ME1 arguing about what to do with their baby?

Their last name is Petrovsky.

[CmdrShep80]

Restrider wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Wrong movie.  That was the prototype General Chang commanded in The Undiscovered Country (Star Trek VI).

I remember, so the Klingons in Generations had a way to pass the shields of the Enterprise and sucker-punched them with their first strike, right?

they implanted geordi's visor with an ability to transmit images to the Bird of Prey and had to wait for him to unknowingly go to engineering where the visor gave them the shield harmonic code while Geordi went about his usual business. With that code they opened fire on the Enterprise. The enterprise had no defense but to turn the ship and at best that didn't help. When they were finally able to do anything, they had to separate the ship, boom goes the warp core knocking the saucer section into a steep nose dive for a crash landing. I don't like the Duras family, always conniving and scheming. In fact I should tell you how the Duras tricked everyone about the Romulan attack at Khitomer. 

[Restrider]

@ Banshee:
More links.
Play these two at the same time: 1 / 2
IT IS THE SAME :::
Edit: All three are actually similar.
It's just like Vigil's theme ffs.

Modifié par Restrider, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:48 .

[acidic-ph0]

Andromidius wrote...

Though of course Bioware did state some parts of ME3 shouldn't be taken literally.  Its just up for grabs which bits they were referring to.

Yes I have heard this before and I agree that there are obviously many parts in the game (hell the whole franchise) that definitely have more than a litteral interpretation. However, not everything should be expected to be ripe with symbolism, especially when the last DLC was chock-full of it. Could Omega have some symbolic messages in it? Sure I don't see why not.

But to say that the entire Omega DLC was foreshadowing for or symbolic of the ending and IT is a little bit of a stretch in my opinion 

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

Huh... yknow the man and woman in ME1 arguing about what to do with their baby?

Their last name is Petrovsky.

Oh my. And her husband is dead. Or so she thinks.

[Rankincountry]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

Rankincountry wrote...
OK, so I don't think anyone is going to be talking about CD Projeckt or Bioware or Obsidian or Eidos Montreal (not to mention various Indie studios bringing out gems like Gemini Rue) in the same breath as Shakespeare any time soon

LOL! This is awesome as I start my final draft for my thesis wherein I argue Hamlet is an avatar character and make references to the Hamlet jokes in ME1 and 2... it's works perfectly, I swear...

Anyway, as you were. I've got to get back to that research...



PS -- Hi everyone! 

Hi! I just started reading Hamlet in English.

I'm on top!

Hehehe, my work here is done...

[paxxton]

Banshee, read it in elcor.

[BatmanTurian]

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh... yknow the man and woman in ME1 arguing about what to do with their baby?

Their last name is Petrovsky.

Oh my. And her husband is dead. Or so she thinks.

I'm sure it's just bad writing or coincidence or some mix-up. Surely these stories are not planned. Bioware sticks ideas on a board and throws darts at them. Surely there is no way Mass Effect is at all a visual novel series patiently and carefully crafted.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:47 .

[The Heretic of Time]

Restrider wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Another thing I've knowest was in ME3, there is no victory theme. The one that plays after beating ME1 and ME2:

This theme is also in ME3. It plays during the assault on Earth when you see all your war assets coming through the Charon relay.

Here is a link to the ME3 version of the victory theme: 

You do realize that those are two different themes?
The first is the victory theme, the latter is the spectre induction theme aka fleets arrive theme. Spectre induction was present in ME1, here is a link.

Nah it's the same theme man, just a bit different. Both themes use exactly the same scores / notes, just arranged a bit differently and with more/different instruments.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:54 .

[Andromidius]

byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Okay, after checking Mass Effect Wiki (lol) it says that Anderson's death only effects the Breath scene.

Even so, Anderson living a few minutes longer makes Shepard more able to survive massive explosions, decompression, atmospheric re-entry and hitting hard rubble? Erm. Yeah?

That actually makes it even more interesting. If his survival for a few extra minutes only affects the breath scene, why even have that mechanic in the game unless the breath scene is important?

If the breath scene was just intended as an easter egg for the most dedicated players, why have a way to get it easier at all?

i come back to my 10k EMS belief. They want us to have 10k EMS for something. Frankly I hope I'm proven wrong but we're only 2k short at this point and more dlc is on the way

Considering you get 75 EMS for every MP character you promote, I'm fairly certain lots of people have at least 10k EMS .

Maybe 10,000 EMS 'legit' is the goal, and they've not added in what you get from having 10,000 EMS yet.

Maybe.

Probably not.

[Krimzie]

paxxton wrote...

Banshee, read it in elcor.

Hahahaha, YES. Contemplatively: What piece of work is a man... How noble in reason, how infinite in faculities, in form and moving...How express and admirable in action... how like an angel in apprehension, how like a god... wompwompwomp

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh... yknow the man and woman in ME1 arguing about what to do with their baby?

Their last name is Petrovsky.

Oh my. And her husband is dead. Or so she thinks.

I'm sure it's just bad writing or coincidence or some mix-up. Surely these stories are not planned. Bioware sticks ideas on a board and throws darts at them. Surely there is no way Mass Effect is at all a visual novel series patiently and carefully crafted.

And Petrovsky is the most common name ever, especially in space. It's like Smith, right? Right?

Modifié par Krimzie, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:52 .

[byne]

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh... yknow the man and woman in ME1 arguing about what to do with their baby?

Their last name is Petrovsky.

Oh my. And her husband is dead. Or so she thinks.

I'm sure it's just bad writing or coincidence or some mix-up. Surely these stories are not planned. Bioware sticks ideas on a board and throws darts at them. Surely there is no way Mass Effect is at all a visual novel series patiently and carefully crafted.

To be fair, her husband shares the name of the most boring man in the galaxy, so I really doubt its Oleg. They could possibly be related, though.

[Andromidius]

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh... yknow the man and woman in ME1 arguing about what to do with their baby?

Their last name is Petrovsky.

Oh my. And her husband is dead. Or so she thinks.

I'm sure it's just bad writing or coincidence or some mix-up. Surely these stories are not planned. Bioware sticks ideas on a board and throws darts at them. Surely there is no way Mass Effect is at all a visual novel series patiently and carefully crafted.

And if we somehow find out her dead husband is called Oleg, then it totally doesn't mean anything at all:whistle:

Edit: Though I'm sure it was mentioned and its not Oleg.  But a relative, possibly.

Modifié par Andromidius, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:51 .

[paxxton]

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh... yknow the man and woman in ME1 arguing about what to do with their baby?

Their last name is Petrovsky.

Oh my. And her husband is dead. Or so she thinks.

I'm sure it's just bad writing or coincidence or some mix-up. Surely these stories are not planned. Bioware sticks ideas on a board and throws darts at them. Surely there is no way Mass Effect is at all a visual novel series patiently and carefully crafted.

Obviously.

But the General might be her father or uncle. He's quite older than her.

Modifié par paxxton, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:51 .

[Dwailing]

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Question to all people who think Bioware went with IT:
From 1 to 10, how likely is it there will be a reveal?

4 pages until I close the thread again?

7.5

I'm either a 7.5 or an 8.  I mean, I'm certain IT is right, but I'm not sure there's going to be a reveal.

[Andromidius]

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Question to all people who think Bioware went with IT:
From 1 to 10, how likely is it there will be a reveal?

4 pages until I close the thread again?

7.5

I'm either a 7.5 or an 8.  I mean, I'm certain IT is right, but I'm not sure there's going to be a reveal.

Ditto.  I mean there was never a proper 'reveal' for Blade Runner, after all.  Just some comments from the director decades later.

[Rankincountry]

Krimzie wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

Huh... yknow the man and woman in ME1 arguing about what to do with their baby?

Their last name is Petrovsky.

Oh my. And her husband is dead. Or so she thinks.

I'm sure it's just bad writing or coincidence or some mix-up. Surely these stories are not planned. Bioware sticks ideas on a board and throws darts at them. Surely there is no way Mass Effect is at all a visual novel series patiently and carefully crafted.

And Petrovsky is the most common name ever, especially in space. It's like Smith, right? Right?

Out of the 30 kids in my class at school, 27 of them were called Petrovsky. Coincidence?