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[masster blaster]

Jacob: When I saw you you were nothing but meat and tubes.

Also Hanar think We think Shepard was on the Citadel, came back down to Earth do to reentry? That was a load of bs.

[RavenEyry]

Eryri wrote...

Is there any codex information on the planet Shepard crashed on? I could believe him not being totally pulped if it was a world like Saturn's moon Titan - one with low gravity, but an unusually dense, cold atmosphere to slow his fall? I imagine both those factors would reduce his terminal velocity - perhaps someone on the thread who's good at physics would know?

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Alchera
Yeah, lower gravity and pressure, higher mass.

[dorktainian]

planetary re-entry. shepard would have been pizza. the suit ruptures were interesting. the change in pressures would have forced his lungs to expand and his heart to explode.

just sayin.

[demersel]

I know how Shepard was able to survive the vacuum of space and the inferno of the blast! He is an L3 biotic! Biotics don't need spacesuits or helmets!! (ME2 - look at Jack and Miranda)

[BleedingUranium]

So Hanar's moved from the Literal Theory to the Deception Theory. I understand someone not being able to take a story at anything but face value, but the supporting the DT makes you either an idiot or a troll.

[RavenEyry]

demersel wrote...

I know how Shepard was able to survive the vacuum of space and the inferno of the blast! He is an L3 biotic! Biotics don't need spacesuits or helmets!! (ME2 - look at Jack and Miranda)

I rarely play biotics.

[MWMike2011]

BleedingUranium wrote...

So Hanar's moved from the Literal Theory to the Deception Theory. I understand someone not being able to take a story at anything but face value, but the supporting the DT makes you either an idiot or a troll.

I'm unfamiliar with the Deception Theory. What is it? Another way to try and discredit IT and try and make us out to be complete morons? lol

[Eryri]

RavenEyry wrote...

Eryri wrote...

Is there any codex information on the planet Shepard crashed on? I could believe him not being totally pulped if it was a world like Saturn's moon Titan - one with low gravity, but an unusually dense, cold atmosphere to slow his fall? I imagine both those factors would reduce his terminal velocity - perhaps someone on the thread who's good at physics would know?

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Alchera
Yeah, lower gravity and pressure, higher mass.

Thanks for the link. Hmm, lower atmospheric pressue than Earth? I would have thought that would decrease drag, so Shepard would hit the ground with greater speed and make pizzafication more likely.

Titan, for example has higher atmospheric pressure than earth, despite having lower gravity to hold on to a dense atmosphere.

Modifié par Eryri, 01 décembre 2012 - 09:53 .

[Andromidius]

Interesting just how much logic and physics people are willing to ignore when facts don't equate to their preconception.

And another thing I thought about that shield protecting the decision chamber area. It would have to be a semi-sphere due to the nature of the area, being completely open topped. And thus its like an egg in shape (sort of). Problem is, such a shape would only be effective from the outside. From the inside it would be breached without much effort at all, like a real egg.

So it wouldn't be able to muffle the explosion very well at all, unless it originated from the outside. Which it doesn't - the explosion starts from within. Which would likely destroy the generator anyway!

The concept of Shepard surviving an explosion like that is so shot full of holes that I can't beleive anyone would even entertain the notion anymore.

[hukbum]

demersel wrote...

I know how Shepard was able to survive the vacuum of space and the inferno of the blast! He is an L3 biotic! Biotics don't need spacesuits or helmets!! (ME2 - look at Jack and Miranda)

No, he's an infiltrator ... a mean bloodpack-smg-using-marksman-infiltrator*.
Biotics are for girls








*try that build, it's really fun to play

[RavenEyry]

Eryri wrote...

Thanks for the link. Hmm, lower atmospheric pressue than Earth? I would have thought that would decrease drag, so Shepard would hit the ground with greater speed and make pizzafication more likely.

Titan, for example has higher atmospheric pressure than earth, despite having lower gravity to hold on to it.

It would also decrease burning, increasing the suits survival chances, which was the important part.

[Rifneno]

hukbum wrote...

demersel wrote...

I know how Shepard was able to survive the vacuum of space and the inferno of the blast! He is an L3 biotic! Biotics don't need spacesuits or helmets!! (ME2 - look at Jack and Miranda)

No, he's an infiltrator ... a mean bloodpack-smg-using-marksman-infiltrator*.
Biotics are for girls








*try that build, it's really fun to play

Don't be silly.  Shepard is a typhoon-wielding soldier.

[RavenEyry]

Andromidius wrote...

So it wouldn't be able to muffle the explosion very well at all, unless it originated from the outside. Which it doesn't - the explosion starts from within. Which would likely destroy the generator anyway!

The concept of Shepard surviving an explosion like that is so shot full of holes that I can't beleive anyone would even entertain the notion anymore.

Hanar doesn't even try to mention the potential forcefield, he was denying the explosion that covers the whole presidium would be fatal because the citadel didn't look too damaged from it.

[BleedingUranium]

MWMike2011 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

So Hanar's moved from the Literal Theory to the Deception Theory. I understand someone not being able to take a story at anything but face value, but the supporting the DT makes you either an idiot or a troll.

I'm unfamiliar with the Deception Theory. What is it? Another way to try and discredit IT and try and make us out to be complete morons? lol

It's trying created a synthesis of LT and IT, and of course, it doesn't work at all. Everything actaully happens, but there's indoctrination going on.

I guess you could say it's IT for the people that hate the ending and think Bioware sucks.

[hukbum]

Rifneno wrote...

Shepard is a typhoon-wielding soldier.

The typhoon is to slow ...

[RavenEyry]

hukbum wrote...
Biotics are for girls

My primary Shep who happens to be a female infiltrator would like a word. Or more precisely, she'd like you to keep standing still in the open.

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

hukbum wrote...

demersel wrote...

I know how Shepard was able to survive the vacuum of space and the inferno of the blast! He is an L3 biotic! Biotics don't need spacesuits or helmets!! (ME2 - look at Jack and Miranda)

No, he's an infiltrator ... a mean bloodpack-smg-using-marksman-infiltrator*.
Biotics are for girls








*try that build, it's really fun to play

Don't be silly.  Shepard is a typhoon-wielding soldier.

You mean an Avenger/Mantis/Scimitar/Predator-wielding Soldier with no powers.

[Rifneno]

hukbum wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Shepard is a typhoon-wielding soldier.

The typhoon is to slow ...

Slow?  It manufacturers murder at a rate of 1,300 rounds per minute.  It's a ****ing minigun sans the spinning barrels.

[Eryri]

RavenEyry wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

So it wouldn't be able to muffle the explosion very well at all, unless it originated from the outside. Which it doesn't - the explosion starts from within. Which would likely destroy the generator anyway!

The concept of Shepard surviving an explosion like that is so shot full of holes that I can't beleive anyone would even entertain the notion anymore.

Hanar doesn't even try to mention the potential forcefield, he was denying the explosion that covers the whole presidium would be fatal because the citadel didn't look too damaged from it.

You mean the explosion that still blows chunks out of the incredibly durable, quantum-shielded superstructure of the Citadel?

Riiiiiighhht!

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

hukbum wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Shepard is a typhoon-wielding soldier.

The typhoon is to slow ...

Slow?  It manufacturers murder at a rate of 1,300 rounds per minute.  It's a ****ing minigun sans the spinning barrels.

I even has the spin-up and spin-down sound effects, I'm pretty sure they changed the model fairly late in development.

[hukbum]

RavenEyry wrote...

hukbum wrote...
Biotics are for girls

My primary Shep who happens to be a female infiltrator would like a word. Or more precisely, she'd like you to keep standing still in the open.

With the marksman-smg-combo - standing still is not needed anymore.

For Biotics - I love to play them, but I'm kinda useless without Liara and the stasis bubble
Omega was a pain in the ass without Liara ...

[Andromidius]

RavenEyry wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

So it wouldn't be able to muffle the explosion very well at all, unless it originated from the outside. Which it doesn't - the explosion starts from within. Which would likely destroy the generator anyway!

The concept of Shepard surviving an explosion like that is so shot full of holes that I can't beleive anyone would even entertain the notion anymore.

Hanar doesn't even try to mention the potential forcefield, he was denying the explosion that covers the whole presidium would be fatal because the citadel didn't look too damaged from it.

During WW2 some tanks could withstand an anti-tank round without even having the hull breached or badly dented.

The crew still died from the heat transfer and pressure wave.

Facts really aren't on his side at all.

[hukbum]

Rifneno wrote...

hukbum wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Shepard is a typhoon-wielding soldier.

The typhoon is to slow ...

Slow?  It manufacturers murder at a rate of 1,300 rounds per minute.  It's a ****ing minigun sans the spinning barrels.

You're shields are gone before the damn thing even starts to fire. That's what I mean with "slow"

[spotlessvoid]

I think I just managed to make sense of the endings from a literal perspective. I think I managed to cover almost all plot holes and oddities from a literal perspective. My conclusion is that Shepard is being indoctrinated. My conclusion is that the ending is a hallucination.
Folks, I think I just managed to make perfect sense of the endings without using bad writing theory.

[hukbum]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I think I just managed to make sense of the endings from a literal perspective. I think I managed to cover almost all plot holes and oddities from a literal perspective. My conclusion is that Shepard is being indoctrinated. My conclusion is that the ending is a hallucination.
Folks, I think I just managed to make perfect sense of the endings without using bad writing theory.