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[BleedingUranium]

Was at the bottom

Mass Effect 3 ends here and here.

[Arashi08]

BleedingUranium wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, just had a thought about the Sam Hulick tweet. Wasn't his last work on a BioWare game the Extended Cut? In that case, whatever he's working on now might be big, especially when you consider the musical cues in the EC.

Yeah, he's somewhat the main composer of the main soundtrack (one track doesn't count, Mansell!). So it should be rather plot-relevant or at least epic enough to get him.

Me thinks this is the DLC I was saving my BW points for.

Hulick has always been one of the main ME composers, but he's never worked on DLC before, that's left to three other composers. This could be big indeed.

-Sam Hulick & Jack Wall - ME1 / ME2

-Sascha Dikiciyan & Cris Velasco - Kasumi / Arrival / Leviathan

-Chris Lennertz - Overlord / LotSB

-All of the above, except Jack Wall - ME3

We don't know who did Omega yet, but it sounds a lot like Arrival and Leviathan.

Did you mean Mansell when you said Hulick the first time?

[BleedingUranium]

Arashi08 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, just had a thought about the Sam Hulick tweet. Wasn't his last work on a BioWare game the Extended Cut? In that case, whatever he's working on now might be big, especially when you consider the musical cues in the EC.

Yeah, he's somewhat the main composer of the main soundtrack (one track doesn't count, Mansell!). So it should be rather plot-relevant or at least epic enough to get him.

Me thinks this is the DLC I was saving my BW points for.

Hulick has always been one of the main ME composers, but he's never worked on DLC before, that's left to three other composers. This could be big indeed.

-Sam Hulick & Jack Wall - ME1 / ME2

-Sascha Dikiciyan & Cris Velasco - Kasumi / Arrival / Leviathan

-Chris Lennertz - Overlord / LotSB

-All of the above, except Jack Wall - ME3

We don't know who did Omega yet, but it sounds a lot like Arrival and Leviathan.

Did you mean Mansell when you said Hulick the first time?

No, the only track he wrote was "Leaving Earth".

[ElSuperGecko]

BleedingUranium wrote...
Mass Effect 3 ends here and here.

Agreed.  I still think the ending to Mass Effect 2 - the entire Suicide Mission, in face - is one of the single greatest video game sequences I've ever had the priviledge of playing through.  And I've played a LOT of games.

And I always feel a little sorry for the Collector General when Harbinger "releases control" at the end.  It looks as though had suddenly become self-aware again.  Silly, I know.

[BleedingUranium]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...
Mass Effect 3 ends here and here.

Agreed.  I still think the ending to Mass Effect 2 - the entire Suicide Mission, in face - is one of the single greatest video game sequences I've ever had the priviledge of playing through.  And I've played a LOT of games.

And I always feel a little sorry for the Collector General when Harbinger "releases control" at the end.  It looks as though had suddenly become self-aware again.  Silly, I know.

I completely agree with this

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 03 décembre 2012 - 02:48 .

[Arashi08]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, just had a thought about the Sam Hulick tweet. Wasn't his last work on a BioWare game the Extended Cut? In that case, whatever he's working on now might be big, especially when you consider the musical cues in the EC.

Yeah, he's somewhat the main composer of the main soundtrack (one track doesn't count, Mansell!). So it should be rather plot-relevant or at least epic enough to get him.

Me thinks this is the DLC I was saving my BW points for.

Hulick has always been one of the main ME composers, but he's never worked on DLC before, that's left to three other composers. This could be big indeed.

-Sam Hulick & Jack Wall - ME1 / ME2

-Sascha Dikiciyan & Cris Velasco - Kasumi / Arrival / Leviathan

-Chris Lennertz - Overlord / LotSB

-All of the above, except Jack Wall - ME3

We don't know who did Omega yet, but it sounds a lot like Arrival and Leviathan.

Did you mean Mansell when you said Hulick the first time?

No, the only track he wrote was "Leaving Earth".

Ah I see, but I thought Hulick worked on LOTSB tho.

Modifié par Arashi08, 03 décembre 2012 - 02:53 .

[Arashi08]

YAY!! Finally got the N7 Shadow

Thx again to whomever posted their N7 shadow guide on the thread (I think back in Mark II maybe?)  I think it was Banshee but I'm probably wrong.  Whoever posted it Thx alot it really helped me build her up well and do well in the games I was in.  And I also apologize if I got the person wrong.

[BleedingUranium]

Arashi08 wrote...

YAY!! Finally got the N7 Shadow

Thx again to whomever posted their N7 shadow guide on the thread (I think back in Mark II maybe?)  I think it was Banshee but I'm probably wrong.  Whoever posted it Thx alot it really helped me build her up well and do well in the games I was in.  And I also apologize if I got the person wrong.

Probably was. The Shadow's awesome

[401 Kill]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

YAY!! Finally got the N7 Shadow

Thx again to whomever posted their N7 shadow guide on the thread (I think back in Mark II maybe?)  I think it was Banshee but I'm probably wrong.  Whoever posted it Thx alot it really helped me build her up well and do well in the games I was in.  And I also apologize if I got the person wrong.

Probably was. The Shadow's awesome

I concur.

[mass perfection]

Do you guys think that even after the EC,BW still has planned for the endings to be indoctrination attempts or do you guys think BW didn't plan for indoctrination and you're displeased with the ending and want it changed and you guys look for stuff in the game that can support an ending change?

[byne]

401 Kill wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

YAY!! Finally got the N7 Shadow

Thx again to whomever posted their N7 shadow guide on the thread (I think back in Mark II maybe?)  I think it was Banshee but I'm probably wrong.  Whoever posted it Thx alot it really helped me build her up well and do well in the games I was in.  And I also apologize if I got the person wrong.

Probably was. The Shadow's awesome

I concur.

I still dont think anything beats novaguard in terms of awesomeness.

[byne]

mass perfection wrote...

Do you guys think that even after the EC,BW still has planned for the endings to be indoctrination attempts or do you guys think BW didn't plan for indoctrination and you're displeased with the ending and want it changed and you guys look for stuff in the game that can support an ending change?

The bold/italic/underlined one.

[BansheeOwnage]

Arashi08 wrote...

YAY!! Finally got the N7 Shadow

Thx again to whomever posted their N7 shadow guide on the thread (I think back in Mark II maybe?)  I think it was Banshee but I'm probably wrong.  Whoever posted it Thx alot it really helped me build her up well and do well in the games I was in.  And I also apologize if I got the person wrong.

Hey you remembered!  Glad it helped. Though, I'd like to make an addendum. I would now use any shotgun with an Omniblade on it for max melee damage. 50% on shotguns vs 25% on ARs and pistols.

[401 Kill]

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Do you guys think that even after the EC,BW still has planned for the endings to be indoctrination attempts or do you guys think BW didn't plan for indoctrination and you're displeased with the ending and want it changed and you guys look for stuff in the game that can support an ending change?

The bold/italic/underlined one.

Yup, the EC didn't hurt IT at all.

[BansheeOwnage]

mass perfection wrote...

Do you guys think that even after the EC,BW still has planned for the endings to be indoctrination attempts or do you guys think BW didn't plan for indoctrination and you're displeased with the ending and want it changed and you guys look for stuff in the game that can support an ending change?

I believe and hope for the first option. I could be wrong, but all this talk of a semi-secret DLC with every writer and the troligy's main composer working on it makes me hopeful!

[mass perfection]

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Do you guys think that even after the EC,BW still has planned for the endings to be indoctrination attempts or do you guys think BW didn't plan for indoctrination and you're displeased with the ending and want it changed and you guys look for stuff in the game that can support an ending change?

The bold/italic/underlined one.

If that's true,why do you think BW made the EC? Since according toyou guys,the EC pretty much expands petty dreams.

[byne]

mass perfection wrote...

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Do you guys think that even after the EC,BW still has planned for the endings to be indoctrination attempts or do you guys think BW didn't plan for indoctrination and you're displeased with the ending and want it changed and you guys look for stuff in the game that can support an ending change?

The bold/italic/underlined one.

If that's true,why do you think BW made the EC? Since according toyou guys,the EC pretty much expands petty dreams.

I figure they probably didnt expect as much hatred as they got for the endings, and quickly slapped the EC together to placate people for now. If the EC was actually what they meant as the definitive end of the game, they'd have put more effort into it, and not just a slideshow that explained almost nothing.

[BansheeOwnage]

BleedingUranium wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, just had a thought about the Sam Hulick tweet. Wasn't his last work on a BioWare game the Extended Cut? In that case, whatever he's working on now might be big, especially when you consider the musical cues in the EC.

Yeah, he's somewhat the main composer of the main soundtrack (one track doesn't count, Mansell!). So it should be rather plot-relevant or at least epic enough to get him.

Me thinks this is the DLC I was saving my BW points for.

Hulick has always been one of the main ME composers, but he's never worked on DLC before, that's left to three other composers. This could be big indeed.

-Sam Hulick & Jack Wall - ME1 / ME2

-Sascha Dikiciyan & Cris Velasco - Kasumi / Arrival / Leviathan

-Chris Lennertz - Overlord / LotSB

-All of the above, except Jack Wall - ME3

We don't know who did Omega yet, but it sounds a lot like Arrival and Leviathan.

Holy crap! This is big news! About as big as when we heard all the writers were working on a DLC too. But both of those combined?! Prepare yourselves for the arrival!

Funny thing. Last night I was talking to Blur, and I was thinking about the music. I didn't say it outloud, but I was thinking: If all the writers are working on it, we just need Sam Hulick and we know something pretty big is on its way!

[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

YAY!! Finally got the N7 Shadow

Thx again to whomever posted their N7 shadow guide on the thread (I think back in Mark II maybe?)  I think it was Banshee but I'm probably wrong.  Whoever posted it Thx alot it really helped me build her up well and do well in the games I was in.  And I also apologize if I got the person wrong.

Hey you remembered!  Glad it helped. Though, I'd like to make an addendum. I would now use any shotgun with an Omniblade on it for max melee damage. 50% on shotguns vs 25% on ARs and pistols.

The Disciple is the lightest shotgun, by the way.

[Dwailing]

Well, I just made it to THREE pages in Slender before quitting out of terror. Yeah.

Edit: Oh, and the Man himself made an appearance.  Almost got me, too.  Then I quit.  Which brings me back to, yeah.

Double Edit: If you want my story to be even more pathetic, I had just gotten the page in the Bath House without dying.  The page in the BATH HOUSE.  Which, again, brings me back to, yeah.

Modifié par Dwailing, 03 décembre 2012 - 03:26 .

[401 Kill]

Bioware has done this before. Why is it such a stretch to believe they did something similar for ME?

John Walden wrote...

  Hello everyone. This is my first post on BSN (so forgive me if I make a mistake:P) I've been reading on this forum since a few weeks after ME3 released (and the
ME2 forums before ME3 was announced.) I'm about 70/30 on indoctrination theory, but there is
definitely more to the endings then meets the eye.
  Now to the point. I found something interesting while replaying Jade Empire (the first Bioware game I played and the reason I first played Mass Effect) that made me think of the ME3 endings.

HUGE JADE EMPIRE SPOILERS AHEAD!




At the end when you face the main antagonist, he gives you a choice to surrender...

This scene takes place after the PC breaks free from Sun Li's hold by fighting a battle in his/her
mind.

Sun Li: I see now that the Water Dragon's power is the prize, not the means to victory. No matter
            what I expend, while you live you will resist. That is your role.
            It is the Celestial Bureaucracy attempting to restore balance. We must bring the fight back down
            to earth. Unless... you are made to see reason.

Player: I'm Listening

Sun Li: What if I guarantee your name will live in the heart of each and every citizen in the Jade
            Empire? It is a glory beyond mere heroics. You would be eternal.
            I do not seek power as my brother did. I will correct the violence inherent in Man. I will make
            certain there are no more wars, no more droughts.
            Everyone will be content in their roles. And they will hold in their hearts the warrior who
            sacrificed everything so that they might prosper. You could make that happen.

Player: I fall, but my name lives on forever? Why would I agree?

Sun Li: If you defeat me, little will change. In time, this Empire will come and go, along with
            the memory of what you did. I seek eternal stability.
            Your name will forever be lauded. In the end, is that not the only immortality worth having?

Player: Forever remembered as a hero by all?

Sun Li: Forever. Not a man, woman, or child will go a day without acknowledging your sacrifice.
            Many have struggled for utopia; you will be the heart of it.

Player: Then I agree.

Sun Li: You do? You will let down your defenses so that I may guide the Jade Empire to a stable
            future?

Player: For the Jade Empire and the name of (PC's Name), I agree.

Sun Li: Then let it be done. You give yourself to a far greater glory than you could ever know.
            Goodbye, my student. You fulfilled your role just as I had wished.
           
The scene changes to an old man and a young boy standing in front of a statue of the PC.

Old Man: The statue of the hero. A shining symbol of sacrifice.
                Look upon it and feel gratitude for all the prosperity we have.

Boy: What was life like before?

The old man turns to the boy his dead grey/brown eyes show he is "Indoctrinated".

Old Man: You don't need to know. All that matters is the glory of the Empire.

Boy: But we need to ask questions to honor what was done. What if this hero wasn't finished?

A Large golum looks at the boy, The old man looks worried.

Old Man: This is your lesson for today. To be happy in your station, you don't need to know.

Boy: We don't need to know.

Old Man: Very good Return to your place.

The boy walks back to sit with the rest of the children.

Old Man: Now, who has delivered the Empire from war and pestilence?

Children: The Hero and the Glorious Strategist.

Old Man: Who showed us how to sacrifice for the greater good, so we are free to live in peace?

Children: The Hero and the Glorious Strategist.

Old Man: Who has ensured that the Empire will endure forever?

Children: The Hero and the Glorious Strategist.

The Scene pans to show Sun Li watching over the group, he than turns around and walks away
with an evil laugh.



Just thought that was interesting to see how choices in past Bioware endings compare to ME3's.

[mass perfection]

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Do you guys think that even after the EC,BW still has planned for the endings to be indoctrination attempts or do you guys think BW didn't plan for indoctrination and you're displeased with the ending and want it changed and you guys look for stuff in the game that can support an ending change?

The bold/italic/underlined one.

If that's true,why do you think BW made the EC? Since according toyou guys,the EC pretty much expands petty dreams.

I figure they probably didnt expect as much hatred as they got for the endings, and quickly slapped the EC together to placate people for now. If the EC was actually what they meant as the definitive end of the game, they'd have put more effort into it, and not just a slideshow that explained almost nothing.

What does Shepard do when he wakes up mortally wounded to a bunch of Sovereign class Reapers and Harbinger with no backup or people to call on?

[Dwailing]

mass perfection wrote...

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

byne wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Do you guys think that even after the EC,BW still has planned for the endings to be indoctrination attempts or do you guys think BW didn't plan for indoctrination and you're displeased with the ending and want it changed and you guys look for stuff in the game that can support an ending change?

The bold/italic/underlined one.

If that's true,why do you think BW made the EC? Since according toyou guys,the EC pretty much expands petty dreams.

I figure they probably didnt expect as much hatred as they got for the endings, and quickly slapped the EC together to placate people for now. If the EC was actually what they meant as the definitive end of the game, they'd have put more effort into it, and not just a slideshow that explained almost nothing.

What does Shepard do when he wakes up mortally wounded to a bunch of Sovereign class Reapers and Harbinger with no backup or people to call on?

That's why there's the Breath Scene.  Presumably, that's there because the allied forces were strong enough to keep Shepard from being turned into paste by the Reapers.

[BleedingUranium]

EC didn't change anything important, only the things they didn't expect people to complain about. Things like the Mass Relays exploding an killing everyone, everyone being stranded and dying, WTF happened with our squad, etc.

[mass perfection]

Shouldn't Shepard wake up in each ending?In Control and Synthesis he should wake up indoctrinated to serve the Reapers and in Destroy,he wakes to destroy the Reapers.