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[BleedingUranium]

Dwailing wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

So, throwing my two cents in, mainly because I'm wanting to stay involved in this Mark before they close it down for length...

I'm very much hoping the next DLC is much more massive than Omega was. Certainly appears to be, with Hendriks and all the writers collaborating on it. Still, though. Can't wait for it. Hoping for more IT goodness.

Anyway, slight tangent... how do you guys feel about the VERY GOOD possibility of ME4 being on next gen Xbox?

The fact that ME4 is on the Frostbite engine does seem to suggest that a next gen release for ME4 is a good possibility.

Except that Battlefield 3 was this gen and it's running on Frostbite 2. Still, though...kinda not looking to buy a brand new system so soon. And it sounds almost like Dragon Age III has been moved to next gen, too... Blah.

My advice?  Invest in a decent PC.  You wouldn't have to spend a MASSIVE amount on it, and you'll probably be covered for the next three years or so.

But... Halo

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

Guys....Shepard bleeding out from a random gun shot wound that Shepard never had...

Harbinger knocks Shepard out/messes Shepard the F up. Now since Harbinger can't Indoctrinate Shepard the old fashion way. Wounding Shepard/ weakening his/her mind is the best thing to do..

1. Harbinger comes down and land near the Conduit beam. Thus puts fear into Shepard. Shepard: Harbinger?

2. Harbinger takes out his/her squadmates. Either killing them or not. Causes Shepard's mind to weaken now that the ones Shepard loves are endanger.

3. Harbinger one shots everyone soldier/ Mako/ Gunship. Causeing Shepard's mind to think " I am not going to make it"

4. When Harbinger has Shepard alone he makes the final push to weaken Shepard. Thus fires his beam at Shepard.

5. As Shepard wakes up thousand of dead soldiers are around the conduit beam. Symbolising that Shepard's willpower has been crushed.

6. The Reaper forces are parts of Shepard alreay indoctrinated from the three dreams Shepard has had. Thus they try to weaken Shepard to get Shepard to fall under Reaper Indoctrination.

7. When we enter the citadle we enter Shepard's mind. In a sense the Conduit is The gate way into Shepard's mind. The dark hallway is Shepard's corrupt mind. Hence it's dark, death is everywhere, and blood dripping the wall/cables.

8. Anderson ( Shepard's main willpower) follows Shepard into his/her mind to protect him/her. Yet Harbinger sense this, and thus creates TIM ( the already Indoctrinated part of Shepard) to stop Shepard and Anderson.

9. When TIM dies, that part of Shepard's mind is gone.

10. As Anderson talk about " It's been years since I sat down and rest." He could mean that. You have to think Shepard has been fighting Indoctrination for a long time. Yes he/she had no signs of Indoctrination in ME1, and ME2, but from letting the Reapers into Shepard's mind. In a sense Anderson as been protecting Shepard for so long, but now it's time for Shepard's willpower to rest.

When Anderson dies Shepard starts to bleed out fast.Could be that now that Anderson ( Shepard's willpower) is gone. Shepard's body can't keep his/her mind in tact, thus the final stage is set.

11. If you notice when Shepard talks to the brat. Shepard is more acceptable to it's words. Look at Destroy. If brat says bad things will come/ happen in Destroy. Shepard says " There has to be another way." The brat then tells Shepard about Control, and synthesis, and if you listen to Shepard. He/she agrees that ya it's not that bad. " But there will be peace. But the Reapers will obye me." God child : Yes.

[MWMike2011]

Dwailing wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

So, throwing my two cents in, mainly because I'm wanting to stay involved in this Mark before they close it down for length...

I'm very much hoping the next DLC is much more massive than Omega was. Certainly appears to be, with Hendriks and all the writers collaborating on it. Still, though. Can't wait for it. Hoping for more IT goodness.

Anyway, slight tangent... how do you guys feel about the VERY GOOD possibility of ME4 being on next gen Xbox?

The fact that ME4 is on the Frostbite engine does seem to suggest that a next gen release for ME4 is a good possibility.

Except that Battlefield 3 was this gen and it's running on Frostbite 2. Still, though...kinda not looking to buy a brand new system so soon. And it sounds almost like Dragon Age III has been moved to next gen, too... Blah.

My advice?  Invest in a decent PC.  You wouldn't have to spend a MASSIVE amount on it, and you'll probably be covered for the next three years or so.

I've thought about that. Then I remember...Fable IV...I might just start saving my pennies for when the next Xbox comes out, maybe trade my current one in for it when it does release and after the massive holiday rush.

[Dwailing]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

So, throwing my two cents in, mainly because I'm wanting to stay involved in this Mark before they close it down for length...

I'm very much hoping the next DLC is much more massive than Omega was. Certainly appears to be, with Hendriks and all the writers collaborating on it. Still, though. Can't wait for it. Hoping for more IT goodness.

Anyway, slight tangent... how do you guys feel about the VERY GOOD possibility of ME4 being on next gen Xbox?

The fact that ME4 is on the Frostbite engine does seem to suggest that a next gen release for ME4 is a good possibility.

Except that Battlefield 3 was this gen and it's running on Frostbite 2. Still, though...kinda not looking to buy a brand new system so soon. And it sounds almost like Dragon Age III has been moved to next gen, too... Blah.

My advice?  Invest in a decent PC.  You wouldn't have to spend a MASSIVE amount on it, and you'll probably be covered for the next three years or so.

But... Halo

Oh, don't get me wrong, I LOVE Halo, but I also believe in the inherent superiority of the PC master race the benefits of having a good PC.

[401 Kill]

Mmmmm...

*Licks Lips*

Halo..........

[John Walden]

Krimzie wrote...

OH HEY, thread. This thing got HUGE in 24 hours. Anyway. Just pew pew'd the **** outta Arrival on Insanity. However, and I can't believe I didn't pick up on this the first time around, but when Shep's in the medbay post-Alpha Relay destruction, she says to Hackett that she's "Fine. No more visions, if that's what you mean." Now for super simple kindergarten IT questions... the visions of Kenson with Direct Control eyes and Collector General WERE from Object Rho, right? I *assumed* they were, but I always second guess myself because IMO, that alone should prove IT, but hey, whaddo I know.

So once a person starts seeing visions because of Reaper artifacts... doesn't that mean... like... they will continue to...?

I know this is super simple stuff, but sometimes -- in my effort to appreciate though not personally accept a literal intepretation -- I forget just how much indoctrination is RIGHT ON THE SURFACE of the story... like Kenson's "I thought I'd feel accomplishment, instead I feel dread, like we're doing something terrible, yadda yadda..." Talk about ME3 ending cues.


EDIT: Oooo, I'm on top for ze first time. Giggity? 

I thought the "no more visions" was a referance to the visions from the beacon on Eden Prime, but i've only played Arrival once so I could be wrong.

[BleedingUranium]

John Walden wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

OH HEY, thread. This thing got HUGE in 24 hours. Anyway. Just pew pew'd the **** outta Arrival on Insanity. However, and I can't believe I didn't pick up on this the first time around, but when Shep's in the medbay post-Alpha Relay destruction, she says to Hackett that she's "Fine. No more visions, if that's what you mean." Now for super simple kindergarten IT questions... the visions of Kenson with Direct Control eyes and Collector General WERE from Object Rho, right? I *assumed* they were, but I always second guess myself because IMO, that alone should prove IT, but hey, whaddo I know.

So once a person starts seeing visions because of Reaper artifacts... doesn't that mean... like... they will continue to...?

I know this is super simple stuff, but sometimes -- in my effort to appreciate though not personally accept a literal intepretation -- I forget just how much indoctrination is RIGHT ON THE SURFACE of the story... like Kenson's "I thought I'd feel accomplishment, instead I feel dread, like we're doing something terrible, yadda yadda..." Talk about ME3 ending cues.


EDIT: Oooo, I'm on top for ze first time. Giggity?

I thought the "no more visions" was a referance to the visions from the beacon on Eden Prime, but i've only played Arrival once so I could be wrong.

Shepard clearly had visions when he first encountered Object Rho (a shorter version of the one you see if you fail), so he must have meant no more visions since being rescued.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

BleedingUranium wrote...

I'm also betting, as some have suggested, that the post-end will only be an end to Shepard's indoctrination story and taking back Earth, leaving defeating the Reapers to ME4.

More speculations: I think, if there is Post-ending DLC, we'll finish the fight as well, but no Reapers in ME4. ME4 should have a more original story/enemy anyway, personally think it's going to be about stabilizing what's left of the galaxy (i.e. slavers/pirate hunting, Krogan Rebellions II, a dozen conflicts I can guess at).

[MegaSovereign]

So....the next DLC has all writers on board. What are your thoughts on this?

[Rifneno]

Halo's a shooter? I always heard it was some kind of competition based around homosexual insults. Huh.

[BleedingUranium]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I'm also betting, as some have suggested, that the post-end will only be an end to Shepard's indoctrination story and taking back Earth, leaving defeating the Reapers to ME4.

More speculations: I think, if there is Post-ending DLC, we'll finish the fight as well, but no Reapers in ME4. ME4 should have a more original story/enemy anyway, personally think it's going to be about stabilizing what's left of the galaxy (i.e. slavers/pirate hunting, Krogan Rebellions II, a dozen conflicts I can guess at).

That could also happen, and would be really cool.

[masster blaster]

I don't want to close my eye. I don't want to fall asleep because I will miss you baby, and I don't want to miss a thing.

I don't want to miss a thing- by Areosmith.

Now play that in the epilogue for Destroy. God it's perfect.

[byne]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I'm also betting, as some have suggested, that the post-end will only be an end to Shepard's indoctrination story and taking back Earth, leaving defeating the Reapers to ME4.

More speculations: I think, if there is Post-ending DLC, we'll finish the fight as well, but no Reapers in ME4. ME4 should have a more original story/enemy anyway, personally think it's going to be about stabilizing what's left of the galaxy (i.e. slavers/pirate hunting, Krogan Rebellions II, a dozen conflicts I can guess at).

I figure it'll be about the Leviathans. Assuming they'll allow the galaxy to continue on as it was before the Reaper invasion is just silly. They claim the reason they made the Reapers was simply to make sure  their subjects didnt wipe themselves out, because they demand tribute.

They'll try to take over again, and we've stupidly been planting Leviathan orbs all across the galaxy, so they'll likely even have an army of thralls.

[masster blaster]

MegaSov. Citadel most likely, but if not that IT maybe, one of the other leacked dlc, or both, but in one pack dlc. We just have to wait and see.

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

Halo's a shooter? I always heard it was some kind of competition based around homosexual insults. Huh.

I havent even heard anyone talk on a mic in Halo in years. Let alone insult me.

[John Walden]

BleedingUranium wrote...

John Walden wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

OH HEY, thread. This thing got HUGE in 24 hours. Anyway. Just pew pew'd the **** outta Arrival on Insanity. However, and I can't believe I didn't pick up on this the first time around, but when Shep's in the medbay post-Alpha Relay destruction, she says to Hackett that she's "Fine. No more visions, if that's what you mean." Now for super simple kindergarten IT questions... the visions of Kenson with Direct Control eyes and Collector General WERE from Object Rho, right? I *assumed* they were, but I always second guess myself because IMO, that alone should prove IT, but hey, whaddo I know.

So once a person starts seeing visions because of Reaper artifacts... doesn't that mean... like... they will continue to...?

I know this is super simple stuff, but sometimes -- in my effort to appreciate though not personally accept a literal intepretation -- I forget just how much indoctrination is RIGHT ON THE SURFACE of the story... like Kenson's "I thought I'd feel accomplishment, instead I feel dread, like we're doing something terrible, yadda yadda..." Talk about ME3 ending cues.


EDIT: Oooo, I'm on top for ze first time. Giggity?

I thought the "no more visions" was a referance to the visions from the beacon on Eden Prime, but i've only played Arrival once so I could be wrong.

Shepard clearly had visions when he first encountered Object Rho (a shorter version of the one you see if you fail), so he must have meant no more visions since being rescued.

I just assumed s/he was lying to Hackett mabe even him/herself , would you want to admit to seeing visions from a reaper artifact?

[MWMike2011]

MegaSovereign wrote...

So....the next DLC has all writers on board. What are your thoughts on this?

Love. It. 

[JMDekker2]

Ok so I'm just gonna chuck in a random theory that I just came up with after my most recent playthrough of the game. Is it possible that after knocking Shepard out with the beam, harbinger somehow picks up Shepard, so that the final scene in some way occurs within Harbie. EDI had a line about leaders being brought to reaper ships to undergo indoctrination. Indoctrination is most powerful within a reaper. There's a bit more to this theory, for example I think that maybe after making the beam and waking up on the citadel, Shepard actually does literally wake up, but inside Harbie, and what follows is might possibly be occurring literally, just not in the context that Shepard expects. This would have some very serious implications, however it's not really a solid theory, more just a strong impression I get. I don't read that much of what's posted here, so let me know if you guys have anything that could disprove this idea.

[Rifneno]

JMDekker2 wrote...

Ok so I'm just gonna chuck in a random theory that I just came up with after my most recent playthrough of the game. Is it possible that after knocking Shepard out with the beam, harbinger somehow picks up Shepard, so that the final scene in some way occurs within Harbie. EDI had a line about leaders being brought to reaper ships to undergo indoctrination. Indoctrination is most powerful within a reaper. There's a bit more to this theory, for example I think that maybe after making the beam and waking up on the citadel, Shepard actually does literally wake up, but inside Harbie, and what follows is might possibly be occurring literally, just not in the context that Shepard expects. This would have some very serious implications, however it's not really a solid theory, more just a strong impression I get. I don't read that much of what's posted here, so let me know if you guys have anything that could disprove this idea.

Sounds reasonable.  I always got the impression that Harbinger wanted Shepard inside him from the obsession in ME2.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

byne wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I'm also betting, as some have suggested, that the post-end will only be an end to Shepard's indoctrination story and taking back Earth, leaving defeating the Reapers to ME4.

More speculations: I think, if there is Post-ending DLC, we'll finish the fight as well, but no Reapers in ME4. ME4 should have a more original story/enemy anyway, personally think it's going to be about stabilizing what's left of the galaxy (i.e. slavers/pirate hunting, Krogan Rebellions II, a dozen conflicts I can guess at).

I figure it'll be about the Leviathans. Assuming they'll allow the galaxy to continue on as it was before the Reaper invasion is just silly. They claim the reason they made the Reapers was simply to make sure  their subjects didnt wipe themselves out, because they demand tribute.

They'll try to take over again, and we've stupidly been planting Leviathan orbs all across the galaxy, so they'll likely even have an army of thralls.

Not sure about that, Leviathan and it's revelations about galactic history were DLC. Would reduce the crowd knowing what's happening unless they bought it or went on youtube. Besides, the "lesser" species just roflstomped the Reapers, I don't think the Leviathans would chance an attack against that sort of force with their few numbers.

[Rifneno]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Not sure about that, Leviathan and it's revelations about galactic history were DLC. Would reduce the crowd knowing what's happening unless they bought it or went on youtube. Besides, the "lesser" species just roflstomped the Reapers, I don't think the Leviathans would chance an attack against that sort of force with their few numbers.

Because Leviathans are nothing if not humble.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Rifneno wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Not sure about that, Leviathan and it's revelations about galactic history were DLC. Would reduce the crowd knowing what's happening unless they bought it or went on youtube. Besides, the "lesser" species just roflstomped the Reapers, I don't think the Leviathans would chance an attack against that sort of force with their few numbers.

Because Leviathans are nothing if not humble.

Humble no, but I don't think they're stupid enough is what I meant.

[masster blaster]

Rifneno wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Not sure about that, Leviathan and it's revelations about galactic history were DLC. Would reduce the crowd knowing what's happening unless they bought it or went on youtube. Besides, the "lesser" species just roflstomped the Reapers, I don't think the Leviathans would chance an attack against that sort of force with their few numbers.

Because Leviathans are nothing if not humble.

It's not like they controlled the less Organics, and let Shepard go because he is just that good. No secret agenda, or nothing else to hide/ not tell us.

Cough crucible cough..

[masster blaster]

Also I found a way to quote on my phone.

[Rifneno]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Not sure about that, Leviathan and it's revelations about galactic history were DLC. Would reduce the crowd knowing what's happening unless they bought it or went on youtube. Besides, the "lesser" species just roflstomped the Reapers, I don't think the Leviathans would chance an attack against that sort of force with their few numbers.

Because Leviathans are nothing if not humble.

Humble no, but I don't think they're stupid enough is what I meant.

"Your own species could be destroyed with a single thought."

Yes, they're utterly terrified of us.