magnetite wrote...
Not sure if I posted this, but the Synthesis beam is actually called "Rpr_beam" in the Umodel program. Reaper beam? Indoctrination, I think so.
Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 03 décembre 2012 - 03:03 .
RavenEyry wrote...
Well it IS reaper tech...magnetite wrote...
Not sure if I posted this, but the Synthesis beam is actually called "Rpr_beam" in the Umodel program. Reaper beam? Indoctrination, I think so.
Modifié par paxxton, 03 décembre 2012 - 03:07 .
ah you mean you didnt see all those bodies on the other end then? And you didn't hear 'Serve us' either (they may have debunked it but i put it through my vocoder and it is deffo 'serve us' not some random noise.)Heretic_Hanar wrote...
dorktainian wrote...
It doesnt matter, they're indoctrinated. Troops are no match for indoctrination. Harbingers only reason for being there was to stop everyone but shepard. After the 'Serve Us' shepard is not himself anymore. as far as dragonteeth are concerned..... they could be taken away and impaled. The people who went to that beam didnt come back. either the beam is a teleporter to a reaper meat grinder, or it indoctrinates them till they are passive then they go to the reprocessing center of their own free will.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
dorktainian wrote...
he was making sure he isolated shepard. No one got to the beam. Not even Shepard. Anyone that tried to get to the beam was huskified or taken to a processing center.RavenEyry wrote...
However half-hearted it may have been, I don't think Harbinger would defend something that'd just enslave anyone who ran into it blindly.
Beams don't huskify, only those dragonteeth do.
And who is supposed to take a fully armed soldier to a processing center? a Keeper? A keeper is no match against a fully armed soldier.
And what is supposed to indoctrinate them? Beams don't indoctrinate, only reapers and some of their artifacts do.
And "serve us"? What are you talking about? Harbinger doesn't say "serve us". That has already been debunked. It's just a indistinct reaper sound. Other reapers in ME3 also make that sound (for example the resper destroyer in the intro).
And what people went through that beam? No one did. Shepard and/or Anderson is the first to go through that beam. So I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about.
But the citadel is also required for the beam to form.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
Well it IS reaper tech...magnetite wrote...
Not sure if I posted this, but the Synthesis beam is actually called "Rpr_beam" in the Umodel program. Reaper beam? Indoctrination, I think so.
No it isn't. The beam comes from the crucible. The crucible isn't reaper tech.
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
And what is supposed to indoctrinate them? Beams don't indoctrinate, only reapers and some of their artifacts do.
And "serve us"? What are you talking about? Harbinger doesn't say "serve us". That has already been debunked. It's just a indistinct reaper sound. Other reapers in ME3 also make that sound (for example the resper destroyer in the intro).
And what people went through that beam? No one did. Shepard and/or Anderson is the first to go through that beam. So I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about.
cos it's transmitting. Thats the thing.RavenEyry wrote...
But the citadel is also required for the beam to form.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
Well it IS reaper tech...magnetite wrote...
Not sure if I posted this, but the Synthesis beam is actually called "Rpr_beam" in the Umodel program. Reaper beam? Indoctrination, I think so.
No it isn't. The beam comes from the crucible. The crucible isn't reaper tech.
Seriously?spotlessvoid wrote...
I did my doctoral thesis on Reaper Indoctrination and it's a scientific fact that Reapers can't indoctrinate via beams. Low pitched humming yes, but beams....preposterous.
spotlessvoid wrote...
I did my doctoral thesis on Reaper Indoctrination and it's a scientific fact that Reapers can't indoctrinate via beams. Low pitched humming yes, but beams....preposterous.
I like your sense of humour Spot.Heretic Hanar wrote...
Beams don't huskify, only those dragonteeth do.
Modifié par Eryri, 03 décembre 2012 - 03:21 .
Have one guess.paxxton wrote...
Seriously?spotlessvoid wrote...
I did my doctoral thesis on Reaper Indoctrination and it's a scientific fact that Reapers can't indoctrinate via beams. Low pitched humming yes, but beams....preposterous.
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
dorktainian wrote...
he was making sure he isolated shepard. No one got to the beam. Not even Shepard. Anyone that tried to get to the beam was huskified or taken to a processing center.RavenEyry wrote...
However half-hearted it may have been, I don't think Harbinger would defend something that'd just enslave anyone who ran into it blindly.
Beams don't huskify, only those dragonteeth do.
And who is supposed to take a fully armed soldier to a processing center? a Keeper? A keeper is no match against a fully armed soldier.
Doesn't TIM's friend get instantly husked by touching a reaper artifact?Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Not true, ME1 has a mine filled with Husks with only Reaper Tech similar to the strange Reaper construction the Geth are worshipping at Zhu's Hope present.
Repeated in ME2 in a mine where you face wave after wave of Husk's with only a Orb like Reaper artifact at the bottom.
Then there is the Collectors where we never see a single Dragon Teeth, but face several Husks.
And in ME3 Cerberus is making their own Husks in a process we see clearly does not require Dragon Teeth.
RavenEyry wrote...
Have one guess.paxxton wrote...
Seriously?spotlessvoid wrote...
I did my doctoral thesis on Reaper Indoctrination and it's a scientific fact that Reapers can't indoctrinate via beams. Low pitched humming yes, but beams....preposterous.
paxxton wrote...
Unfortunately, the story is constructed so that Organics can't possibly win the war. You see, the Reapers built the Mass Relay Network and without it Organics have no means of traveling across the Galaxy. In such case all resistance would be instantaneously crippled even before the fights started. That's why it's puzzling that the Reapers did not decide to capture the Citadel as their first priority. One could say that the Reapers had to enter the Galaxy "on foot" and hence had no means to attack the Citadel by surprise. But surely such advanced a species as the Reapers must've foreseen a situation where in one cycle in the future something might go not according to their plan. They must have had a kind of backdoor into the network control. Besides, it's not even mentioned in thew game why they did not utilize this strategy Vigil talked about. A bold strategy, if you ask me. They should fight their way to the Citadel as the first thing they do in this war.
Not capturing the Citadel feels like a story hack introduced in ME3 primarily to alleviate the consequences of that whole "You develop along the paths we desire." The only other explanation would be if the Citadel indoctrinates its inhabitants.
demersel wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
He's exaggerating, it's not a major IT thing, it's just more detailed than it first appears.
Did you know there is a class specific interrupt? If you play as engineer - instead of shutting down the reacotor you can just divert power instantly.
Who knows what else is in there. Most people just rush through the DLC, doing Pew-pew, derp, man this sucks, derp no substantial story....
Guest_magnetite_*
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
That's probably because in the original leaked script the synthesis ending was called "become one with the reapers" and it was considered "the best ending" after having "a perfect playthrough".
Yes, that's what the original leaked script says about synthesis.
Modifié par magnetite, 03 décembre 2012 - 03:34 .
Ok, but it would be nice if BioWare made it all more obvious and not left so much for individual interpretation.CmdrShep80 wrote...
demersel wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
He's exaggerating, it's not a major IT thing, it's just more detailed than it first appears.
Did you know there is a class specific interrupt? If you play as engineer - instead of shutting down the reacotor you can just divert power instantly.
Who knows what else is in there. Most people just rush through the DLC, doing Pew-pew, derp, man this sucks, derp no substantial story....
ditto. I found tons of stuff, lots of hidden meanings, tons of references to other things. But only if you take your time. As Aria says: this is your war Shepard. And The beginning is not as important as the end
Modifié par paxxton, 03 décembre 2012 - 03:35 .
demersel wrote...
Did you know there is a class specific interrupt? If you play as engineer - instead of shutting down the reacotor you can just divert power instantly.
Who knows what else is in there. Most people just rush through the DLC, doing Pew-pew, derp, man this sucks, derp no substantial story....
It's subjective. I agree, but it's not the sort of thing to be stated as fact.magnetite wrote...
Regardless, the music gets all weird and spooky in control and synthesis, but in destroy it's very hopeful.
paxxton wrote...
Repost of my wall of text.paxxton wrote...
Unfortunately, the story is constructed so that Organics can't possibly win the war. You see, the Reapers built the Mass Relay Network and without it Organics have no means of traveling across the Galaxy. In such case all resistance would be instantaneously crippled even before the fights started. That's why it's puzzling that the Reapers did not decide to capture the Citadel as their first priority. One could say that the Reapers had to enter the Galaxy "on foot" and hence had no means to attack the Citadel by surprise. But surely such advanced a species as the Reapers must've foreseen a situation where in one cycle in the future something might go not according to their plan. They must have had a kind of backdoor into the network control. Besides, it's not even mentioned in thew game why they did not utilize this strategy Vigil talked about. A bold strategy, if you ask me. They should fight their way to the Citadel as the first thing they do in this war.
Not capturing the Citadel feels like a story hack introduced in ME3 primarily to alleviate the consequences of that whole "You develop along the paths we desire." The only other explanation would be if the Citadel indoctrinates its inhabitants.
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